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(06-10-2020 06:57 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Frankly my dear....

Ashley Wilkes was a cuck invention of a female novelist. Scarlet was a sociopath. Mellie was passive aggressive and Rhett should have stuck with Belle.

I won't miss it either, but Harper Lee is even coming under some heat of late for Atticus Finch. Apparently even for the time "To Kill a Mockingbird" wasn't woke enough. However the book still contains a message appropriate for "Woke" times. Atticus, and compassionate and humane as he was, did shoot the rabid dog dead in the street!
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(06-10-2020 02:05 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Now I want to watch it! As a whole, is it relevant to recent events, or is it just a 2 minute scene or 2?
It’s a soap opera about one woman and her string of failed relationships. Three-and-a-half hours, plus.

The music is probably the best-known film-score in the history of cinema.

It’s probably the most-watched pre-Titanic film in the world. Maybe — maybe — some of the Star Wars films rank ahead of it.
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"...To add a bit of insult to injury, today is Hattie McDaniel’s birthday. June 10, 1893. That we can watch this phenomenal award-winning performance from a child of slaves is little short of a miracle. Today McDaniel, with her talent and timing might be one of the most famous leading black actors in the world. But without her incredible supporting performances, today’s superstars may never have gotten that chance. Let us watch her work."
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(06-10-2020 03:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-10-2020 02:05 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Now I want to watch it! As a whole, is it relevant to recent events, or is it just a 2 minute scene or 2?
It’s a soap opera about one woman and her string of failed relationships. Three-and-a-half hours, plus.

The music is probably the best-known film-score in the history of cinema.

It’s probably the most-watched pre-Titanic film in the world. Maybe — maybe — some of the Star Wars films rank ahead of it.

And its her story through wealth and poverty. Its a story that shows people and the way they deal with things. "Tomorrow...is another day."

In a lot of ways Scarlett resembles Paul Newman's character in "Slap Shot." Scheming, manipulative, optomistic, likable and able to delude even herself.
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Not a fan of the movie.

But not a fan of it being banned either. If Gone With the Wind is racially offensive, then we have to eliminate a huge portion of our accumulated cultural heritage in theater, print, and film.
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lol, just read that due to this HBOMax nonsense, Gone With the Wind is now No. 1 on Amazon Best- Sellers Chart. Yet another bommerang.
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Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen are the two of the stars that made the whole movie work. I liked the line Butterfly's character said about she do not know how to birth no baby. It is a funny line to laughed at, and to fall in love with the performer.
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(06-11-2020 12:18 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen are the two of the stars that made the whole movie work. I liked the line Butterfly's character said about she do not know how to birth no baby. It is a funny line to laughed at, and to fall in love with the performer.

Hattie McDaniel won an Academy Award for that role, becoming the first African-American to win an Oscar. She loved the role. I mean, people are entitle to their opinon; however, if the Oscar winning actress didn't see anything wrong with the movie who am I to have any issue with it?
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(06-11-2020 12:23 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 12:18 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Hattie McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen are the two of the stars that made the whole movie work. I liked the line Butterfly's character said about she do not know how to birth no baby. It is a funny line to laughed at, and to fall in love with the performer.

Hattie McDaniel won an Academy Award for that role, becoming the first African-American to win an Oscar. She loved the role. I mean, people are entitle to their opinon; however, if the Oscar winning actress didn't see anything wrong with the movie who am I to have any issue with it?
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Hattie McDaniel was criticized soundly by many in the black community when the movie came out. She said, and I don't remember the exact quote, "I was making $600 a week, get over it".
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(06-11-2020 12:26 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Hattie McDaniel was criticized soundly by many in the black community when the movie came out. She said, and I don't remember the exact quote, "I was making $600 a week, get over it".

Yes, she was criticized because she didn't go all out to support civil rights protests, etc. Same as today in that, "if you don't protest you are part of the problem" nonsense.
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(06-11-2020 12:29 PM)VA49er Wrote:  she was criticized because she didn't go all out to support civil rights protests, etc. Same as today in that, "if you don't protest you are part of the problem" nonsense.
Keep in mind that she died in 1952, before the “Civil Rights Movement” had begun, in terms of the mass marches/protests that are commonly associated with those words today.
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(06-11-2020 12:45 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 12:29 PM)VA49er Wrote:  she was criticized because she didn't go all out to support civil rights protests, etc. Same as today in that, "if you don't protest you are part of the problem" nonsense.
Keep in mind that she died in 1952, before the “Civil Rights Movement” had begun, in terms of the mass marches/protests that are commonly associated with those words today.

Well, whateve qualfied as civil rights protests back then is what she was criticised for not participating in. Just shows things don't change much.

An interesting tidbit I learned today is that Olivia de Havilland, who played Melanie Hamilton in Gone With the Wind, is still alive. She is 103 years old.
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(06-10-2020 02:02 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  1st black woman to ever win an Academy Award in this movie.

Yep and she was forced to sit in the back of the room.
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(06-11-2020 12:53 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-10-2020 02:02 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  1st black woman to ever win an Academy Award in this movie.

Yep and she was forced to sit in the back of the room.

Seriously? I never heard that. What BS. :\
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(06-11-2020 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 12:53 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-10-2020 02:02 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  1st black woman to ever win an Academy Award in this movie.

Yep and she was forced to sit in the back of the room.

Seriously? I never heard that. What BS. :\
Well it was 1940. She was probably lucky to be in the room.

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(06-11-2020 01:11 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 12:53 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-10-2020 02:02 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  1st black woman to ever win an Academy Award in this movie.

Yep and she was forced to sit in the back of the room.

Seriously? I never heard that. What BS. :\
Well it was 1940. She was probably lucky to be in the room.

Just read up on it. That year's AAwards were held in a segregated California hotel. A Ppoducer had to get special permission for her to attend. After accepting her Oscar she sat with her white agent at table against a far wall and not with the rest of the GWTWind actors. It wasn't just Hollywood, The NAACP disowned her for perpetuating negative stereotypes. Even after death, her Oscar, which she left to Howard University, was deemed valueless by appraisers and later went missing from the school — and has remained so for more than 40 years. Sad.
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Stuff like that wouldn't happen in this day and age. Like I've said before, no one under about 50 has ever seen REAL racism in this country.
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(06-11-2020 03:49 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Stuff like that wouldn't happen in this day and age. Like I've said before, no one under about 50 has ever seen REAL racism in this country.

This is what happens when educators fill heads with excuses and hate instead of knowledge and ambition. It is what happens when they aren't spanked at home, aren't disciplined at school, aren't disciplined at college, and those taking their money for college give them grades and pass them through for profit. Then they get out in life get criticized at work, repeatedly told they are wrong by those who know, and so they gang up to protest police because they represent discipline, order, and try to enforce the rules (law). So pitching a tantrum, which is what the peaceful element of the protests really are, and resorting to violence to intimidate those who tell them they are wrong, is how a group of uneducated, indoctrinated, do nothings respond to a world that corrects them every day.

When you don't discipline your child this is the whirlwind we all reap because of it. You don't spank to hurt them, you spank them so that later what society has to do isn't far worse!

If they can't read they will burn a book.
If they don't like the truth they will burn a book.
If the book corrects them they will burn a book.
And if the book is important to the successful they will burn a book.

A fool refuses correction. Look at all the fools!
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(06-11-2020 12:45 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 12:29 PM)VA49er Wrote:  she was criticized because she didn't go all out to support civil rights protests, etc. Same as today in that, "if you don't protest you are part of the problem" nonsense.
Keep in mind that she died in 1952, before the “Civil Rights Movement” had begun, in terms of the mass marches/protests that are commonly associated with those words today.

I did some research on this story. The actual quote from Mrs. McDaniel was:

Quote:Over the course of her career, McDaniel appeared in over 300 films, but was only given credit for 80 of them. Since she had experienced racism in her lifetime and had been a maid much of her 20-year career, she became famous for her two quotes: "I'd rather play a maid than be one" and "Why should I complain about making $7,000 a week playing a maid? If I didn't, I'd be making $7 a week being one."

She was a victim of cruel racism of the time period:

Quote:McDaniel was not allowed to attend the premiere of the film because of Georgia's segregation laws. She was allowed to attend the Academy Award ceremony, but she and her escort were seated in the back of the room at a table just for them. It seemed that despite Hattie's greatest successes, the color of her skin mattered more to people than her acting talent.

Quote:On Oct. 26, 1952, Hattie McDaniel died of breast cancer at the age of 57. It was her wish to be buried in the Hollywood Cemetery on Santa Monica Boulevard among some of her fellow movie stars. However, the owner refused to allow her to be interred into the cemetery because she was Black.

Discrimination in life and death was her experience. Yet, in her own way, she was a pioneer who paved the way for many others.


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