(06-06-2020 07:58 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  [quote='HuskyU' pid='16850693' dateline='1591445788']
Outing someone is a big no-no in the gay community....unless of course said closeted person is a Republican.

Yet another double standard from the Left.


While I agree outing someone is wrong, I disagree with your characterization that he would be a target for merely being "Republican". He has supported anti lgbt legislation, misused his platform to actively lie to and advocate against the LGBT community, and has allowed himself (quite clearly) to be coerced into a position of kompromat where he is now an ineffectual legislator out of fear of being outed.

We have all known he is gay for 20+ years. I hope his transition to being out is a kind one. But much like Aaron Schock, he will probably hate the first year or so.

LG is no victim.

Why now?

We know. Do you? How do you feel about his sexual preference being used as a weapon by your side of the isle? Does this make you question the lengths to which the coup conspirators will go to hide their conspiracy?

The results of this will not be what the left thinks. It may steel his resolve and make him more intent on “outing” his “outers”.

(06-06-2020 08:09 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 07:58 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  [quote='HuskyU' pid='16850693' dateline='1591445788']
Outing someone is a big no-no in the gay community....unless of course said closeted person is a Republican.

Yet another double standard from the Left.


While I agree outing someone is wrong, I disagree with your characterization that he would be a target for merely being "Republican". He has supported anti lgbt legislation, misused his platform to actively lie to and advocate against the LGBT community, and has allowed himself (quite clearly) to be coerced into a position of kompromat where he is now an ineffectual legislator out of fear of being outed.

We have all known he is gay for 20+ years. I hope his transition to being out is a kind one. But much like Aaron Schock, he will probably hate the first year or so.

LG is no victim.

Why now?

We know. Do you? How do you feel about his sexual preference being used as a weapon by your side of the isle? Does this make you question the lengths to which the coup conspirators will go to hide their conspiracy?

The results of this will not be what the left thinks. It may steel his resolve and make him more intent on “outing” his “outers”.

Moral relativity. No code. By any means necessary.

Kompromat. Lol. Talking points are out.

(06-05-2020 08:21 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think the left thinks that conservative voters would turn their back on a major republican who comes out as gay. They seem unaware that conservatives would gladly and openly back a gay republican (even for POTUS) if he fought tooth and nail for most of their values and issues.

Probably so..and include any minority or female in that. Somehow the left has managed to convince its cadre that conservatives are racist, homophobic and misogynistic. Are there conservatives with those values...sure. It is however a very small percentage. Its unfortunate that there are any at all. Most are decent people that judge on the "quality of a person's character".

(06-06-2020 06:32 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess I just couldn’t care less who does whom in their own bedrooms.

Same here. If the left believes this will make a difference with his constituents they are mistaken. Im sure they long ago put this issue to bed with LG. This is not some kind of "gottcha" moment with them. They vote for him because of his stances on the issues and his power on the Hill. They could care less about this issue.

(06-06-2020 08:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 06:32 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I guess I just couldn’t care less who does whom in their own bedrooms.

Same here. If the left believes this will make a difference with his constituents they are mistaken. Im sure they long ago put this issue to bed with LG. This is not some kind of "gottcha" moment with them. They vote for him because of his stances on the issues and his power on the Hill. They could care less about this issue.

This is just more evidence the left doesn’t understand their opposition. They have screamed so long they have convinced themselves all of their rhetoric is gospel.

(06-06-2020 07:58 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  We have all known he is gay for 20+ years. I hope his transition to being out is a kind one. But much like Aaron Schock, he will probably hate the first year or so.

LG is no victim.

The reality is he has been dealing with hatred and death threats most of his career from your side.

Don't care if he's gay as long as he keeps the balls he's grown since the Kavanaugh hearings. Not surprised at all if he is gay.

(06-06-2020 09:06 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 07:58 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  We have all known he is gay for 20+ years. I hope his transition to being out is a kind one. But much like Aaron Schock, he will probably hate the first year or so.

LG is no victim.

The reality is he has been dealing with hatred and death threats most of his career from your side.

I see nothing that would lead me to believe he would out himself over this and he should not be forced to do so. I thought it was a no no in the gay community to out someone anyway.

(06-06-2020 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 09:06 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 07:58 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  We have all known he is gay for 20+ years. I hope his transition to being out is a kind one. But much like Aaron Schock, he will probably hate the first year or so.

LG is no victim.

The reality is he has been dealing with hatred and death threats most of his career from your side.

I see nothing that would lead me to believe he would out himself over this and he should not be forced to do so. I thought it was a no no in the gay community to out someone anyway.

Rules don't matter to the left.

The Left had a gay man running for President. Hypocrites as usual.

To see so many straight men suddenly concerned about a gay man's mental health and wellbeing warms my heart. Given that its Pride month, I can send any of you information on ways to support the LGBT community andor give you resources or organizations to donate to.

I'll also reaffirm the very first statement I made in this thread and that is that no one deserves to be outed.

(06-05-2020 08:21 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think the left thinks that conservative voters would turn their back on a major republican who comes out as gay. They seem unaware that conservatives would gladly and openly back a gay republican (even for POTUS) if he fought tooth and nail for most of their values and issues.

I don’t think the left thinks that. I think they’d see lots of irony in it, but all Americans should know that even Satan wouldn’t lose a single vote as long as he can keep winning a seat for their side.

(06-06-2020 12:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 08:21 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think the left thinks that conservative voters would turn their back on a major republican who comes out as gay. They seem unaware that conservatives would gladly and openly back a gay republican (even for POTUS) if he fought tooth and nail for most of their values and issues.

I don’t think the left thinks that. I think they’d see lots of irony in it, but all Americans should know that even Satan wouldn’t lose a single vote as long as he can keep winning a seat for their side.

The left really doesn't understand Christians or Christianity at all.

'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." Is 6:9

"always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Tim 3:7

For this people's heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.' Acts 28:27

Lots of great religious LGBT organizations and faith leaders.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/faith-positions

https://www.glaad.org/programs/faith

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/...atch-2019/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category...anizations

(06-06-2020 12:54 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 08:21 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think the left thinks that conservative voters would turn their back on a major republican who comes out as gay. They seem unaware that conservatives would gladly and openly back a gay republican (even for POTUS) if he fought tooth and nail for most of their values and issues.

I don’t think the left thinks that. I think they’d see lots of irony in it, but all Americans should know that even Satan wouldn’t lose a single vote as long as he can keep winning a seat for their side.

The left really doesn't understand Christians or Christianity at all.

'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." Is 6:9

"always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Tim 3:7

For this people's heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.' Acts 28:27

Just because it’s in the Bible, it doesn’t mean that Christians follow it perfectly and you know that. Christians ourselves are sometimes those calloused heart individuals and some don’t ever soften.

As far as the left is concerned though, it’s simply ironic that Graham has gone against LGBT interests before and now it turns out that he at least dips his toe in that world. They know he’s still a Republican and isn’t gonna lose favor.

(06-06-2020 12:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  To see so many straight men suddenly concerned about a gay man's mental health and wellbeing warms my heart. Given that its Pride month, I can send any of you information on ways to support the LGBT community andor give you resources or organizations to donate to.

I'll also reaffirm the very first statement I made in this thread and that is that no one deserves to be outed.

Thanks, but "I" wouldn't go that far. To maintain a courteous relationship with everyone which includes gays is one thing. For you to suggest that we condone and try to push the agenda is an entirely different thing. Like comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks...but no thanks.

(06-06-2020 01:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  To see so many straight men suddenly concerned about a gay man's mental health and wellbeing warms my heart. Given that its Pride month, I can send any of you information on ways to support the LGBT community andor give you resources or organizations to donate to.

I'll also reaffirm the very first statement I made in this thread and that is that no one deserves to be outed.

Thanks, but "I" wouldn't go that far. To maintain a courteous relationship with everyone which includes gays is one thing. For you to suggest that we condone and try to push the agenda is an entirely different thing. Like comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks...but no thanks.

When you discover what that agenda is, let me know. Must've missed it in the mail. I think most folks are just trying to live their lives.


If being cordial is how you show your allyship, I think thats great :) The community always needs kind allies. Welcome aboard!

(06-06-2020 01:04 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:54 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:49 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 08:21 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think the left thinks that conservative voters would turn their back on a major republican who comes out as gay. They seem unaware that conservatives would gladly and openly back a gay republican (even for POTUS) if he fought tooth and nail for most of their values and issues.

I don’t think the left thinks that. I think they’d see lots of irony in it, but all Americans should know that even Satan wouldn’t lose a single vote as long as he can keep winning a seat for their side.

The left really doesn't understand Christians or Christianity at all.

'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." Is 6:9

"always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Tim 3:7

For this people's heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.' Acts 28:27

Just because it’s in the Bible, it doesn’t mean that Christians follow it perfectly and you know that. Christians ourselves are sometimes those calloused heart individuals and some don’t ever soften.

I did not remotely suggest there are Christians who don't follow the Bible and you know that. So lets not pretend I did.

I know for a fact you have read many of my countless posts on Christians and churches not following the Bible so I have no clue why you would have posted that.

It also sounds like you are lumping in true born again, spirit filled Christians with every idiot on the planet who claims to be "Christian". If you have read the Bible you should already know that true born again Christians are NOT callused hearted people. This is the very reason Jesus and Paul taught that we would be able to discern true Christians from fake ones and cults. BY THEIR FRUITS.

A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. Matt 12:35

This is Bible 101. Be careful not to be ignorant of it for the sake of worldly politics. You comment definitely confused this point about true Christians.

God Bless

(06-06-2020 01:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 01:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  To see so many straight men suddenly concerned about a gay man's mental health and wellbeing warms my heart. Given that its Pride month, I can send any of you information on ways to support the LGBT community andor give you resources or organizations to donate to.

I'll also reaffirm the very first statement I made in this thread and that is that no one deserves to be outed.

Thanks, but "I" wouldn't go that far. To maintain a courteous relationship with everyone which includes gays is one thing. For you to suggest that we condone and try to push the agenda is an entirely different thing. Like comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks...but no thanks.

When you discover what that agenda is, let me know. Must've missed it in the mail. I think most folks are just trying to live their lives.


If being cordial is how you show your allyship, I think thats great :) The community always needs kind allies. Welcome aboard!

I think you missed my point. I am not your ally, I am your friend. If you were getting beaten up by a gay hater I would come to your aid but I would not attend your party. Got it? Big difference.

(06-06-2020 01:24 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 01:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 01:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-06-2020 12:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  To see so many straight men suddenly concerned about a gay man's mental health and wellbeing warms my heart. Given that its Pride month, I can send any of you information on ways to support the LGBT community andor give you resources or organizations to donate to.

I'll also reaffirm the very first statement I made in this thread and that is that no one deserves to be outed.

Thanks, but "I" wouldn't go that far. To maintain a courteous relationship with everyone which includes gays is one thing. For you to suggest that we condone and try to push the agenda is an entirely different thing. Like comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks...but no thanks.

When you discover what that agenda is, let me know. Must've missed it in the mail. I think most folks are just trying to live their lives.


If being cordial is how you show your allyship, I think thats great :) The community always needs kind allies. Welcome aboard!

I think you missed my point. I am not your ally, I am your friend. If you were getting beaten up by a gay hater I would come to your aid but I would not attend your party. Got it? Big difference.

AMEN