(06-02-2020 08:11 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Right.

Our cities are not burning and being looted across the country. Its just a political talking point.

You really are a SICK human being.

And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Now you've done it Eric.. You've upset the ultimate authority in the world on dishonesty and how to spot it. He's never lied a day in his life.

yep

I obviously did not lie about anything so there is no need responding to more lies.

(06-02-2020 08:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:12 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hell, I'd like them to first just identify the group. Who runs it, where do they meet, where is their membership list, etc.

Bottom line, this is the 2016 trump playbook...only this time he's substituting Antifa for the scary Mexican caravans.

Right.

Our cities are not burning and being looted across the country. Its just a political talking point.

You really are a SICK human being.

And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

Now name calling? Wow.

Clutch those pearls.

I'm good, thanks though.

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hell, I'd like them to first just identify the group. Who runs it, where do they meet, where is their membership list, etc.

Bottom line, this is the 2016 trump playbook...only this time he's substituting Antifa for the scary Mexican caravans.

Right.

Our cities are not burning and being looted across the country. Its just a political talking point.

You really are a SICK human being.

And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Right.

Our cities are not burning and being looted across the country. Its just a political talking point.

You really are a SICK human being.

And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Right.

Our cities are not burning and being looted across the country. Its just a political talking point.

You really are a SICK human being.

And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

Tom used to be a decent poster.. Sure during the BHO days he was a huuuuuuge cult follower of the House of Obama... So I find it funny when he and the other libs here call Trump supporters a cult..

His descent into madness the last few months has been at times entertaining to watch.

But what do I know.. I'm a dishonest troll who when proved wrong would say, you know you're right... I've yet to see him post a retraction. Not saying he hasn't, cause you can bet your life he'll claim it, I just haven't seen it.

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

it is because you represent yourself as an independent voter (read: could side with either party on an issue) yet side with the far left on everything except being an official member. It's dishonest and frankly pretty much par for the course with you.

(06-02-2020 08:46 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

it is because you represent yourself as an independent voter (read: could side with either party on an issue) yet side with the far left on everything except being an official member. It's dishonest and frankly pretty much par for the course with you.

Dude, you don't know at all what I side with.

Make them famous. Share their faces if they're stupid enough to show them. Send the photos to law enforcement. That is what I've been doing. They will get HARD jail time now that Antifa is rightly a terrorist organization.

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

More than a dozen times Tom and all in different ways. The problem is the truth only has one version.

(06-01-2020 07:12 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:04 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

Thanks for the link. Very informative.

As we know, "birds of a feather" and "you're known by the company you keep", I thought this statement is telling:

Quote:Black bloc participants are often associated with anarchism, anarcho-communism, libertarian socialism, anti-globalization movement or antifascism.

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

Free will

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And you're clearly a moron. But you can clear that all up by pointing to any post I've made claiming there has been no looting or burning.

"It's all the result of Antifa" is the political talking point cardboard Jesus.

You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

We've understood it for a while.

Leftist, not a Dem.

That leaves a few remaining groups: Socialist, Communist, Anarchist.

Which one do you identify with?

(06-02-2020 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:46 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

it is because you represent yourself as an independent voter (read: could side with either party on an issue) yet side with the far left on everything except being an official member. It's dishonest and frankly pretty much par for the course with you.

Dude, you don't know at all what I side with.

All we have to go by is what you say.

You said you're left, but not Dem.

The policies for which you've expressed support throughout your posting history paint you as solid left.

What are we missing?

(06-02-2020 02:43 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

Free will

One of the best Rush songs

(06-02-2020 03:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:43 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

Free will

One of the best Rush songs

3 great musicians, maybe the best...but the vocals...oh the vocals...

(06-02-2020 03:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:43 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

Free will

One of the best Rush songs

Yes, it is! But that whole album is killer.

Personally, I love the guitar solo in Different Strings as the song fades out.

Some of Alex's best work, IMHO.

(06-02-2020 03:07 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 03:05 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:43 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  You think he kept his little boy bits or traded them in?

Two points:
1. Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. One however is implemented via corporations and uses socialism to have a cheap guaranteed source of labor that is not wealthy enough or powerful enough to threaten it. The other is run by political thugs who make the corporations subject to their whims for the alleged sake of the people which again get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

2. If the little boys lose their bits then Darwin wins again, along with all sane people. I'm a Christian but I definitely believe in letting the stupid off themselves.

Free will

One of the best Rush songs

3 great musicians, maybe the best...but the vocals...oh the vocals...

Hey! Stop it!



Seriously, though, he has his moments. And though his voice is unique, he actually nails the notes.

(06-02-2020 02:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Fascism is the truest enemy of communism and it's a little odd if you don't know why because both are socialist systems. Both are run by political thugs .... for the alleged sake of the people which ... get screwed.

So it's telling that neither one sees Capitalism as their main rival.

FIFY

The way I see it, your really close.

Communists and Fascists are hated rivals because they are two forms of the same Socialist disease competing for the same audience, it's just one has internationalist aims while the other has nationalist aims. Both seek to control the corporations but fascists will tend to give business more leeway if they cooperate. Both saw the Capitalists and religious as minor inconveniences who could be dealt with once either side gained control of the Left.

I remember back in college in the 90s being all alone arguing in history and pol sci classes that fascism was a left-wing Socialist ideology. I feel that realization has become more prevalent over the years, and that is a good thing.