RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(06-01-2020 12:57 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:
(06-01-2020 12:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(06-01-2020 12:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-01-2020 11:58 AM)JRsec Wrote: Everything is a projection with you. Face it Bubba Antifa is going to kill any support that you hoped to have from the middle. And when this country wakes up and realizes that all of this crap is being taught in the public school system and return oversight for curriculum to the states instead of trusting the NEA we will be a long way down the road to making this wholly irrelevant since it is those schools that have produced the delusional Millennial belief system.
I can't help but think you invented Teflon because nothing seems to to stick to you no matter how many times you are flat wrong, or how many times you crayfish from a position, or how many times you lie and get caught. But rally to protect Antifa and any chance the Dems had will evaporate. Most Americans still hate thugs. And make no mistake the new issue for the Fall is no longer COVID 19 but rather innocent store owners trying to protect their livelihood and therefore their lives getting beaten or killed at the hands of thugs using a protest for cover to loot. And behind the anarchy are left wing militant organizers and you defend them and wonder why you have no cred here. You might start thinking that America's middle ground is the point where both the right and left are disgusted by violence and crime. Instead you defend it and try to blame Hillary's vast right wing conspiracy.
It's just all so damned funny! But it's also pathetic.
What on earth are you babbling about? I don't have one ounce of support for anything Antifa does. I'm merely pointing out the fact that this is a fake twitter site that has been suspended by twitter.
That being said, have you not seen the many reports of false flags of organized groups starting fires and busting windows trying to pass themselves off an Antifa?
And sorry, but whatever you were taught that leads you to believe that only the left is capable of evil, etc. is just ****** up.
Let's see, the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers, Alinsky based organizing working with Cuban drug cartels, selling secrets to China and taking their funds in exchange for congressional consideration, support by leftist politicians of an anti Semitic anti American, pro race war Antifa, in bed with Soros vs Oliver North and Iran Contra.
I'd say the preponderance of evidence is on my side.
LOL @ your "evidence" in discussion with Rtom. Lost cause man...lost cause.
Hey, when I talk to RWT, I'm not speaking to him. I'm conveying information for the rest of the board and visitors to read. In other words I don't give a damn what Tom thinks. I care about what those reading his drivel think after I counter it with something for them to think about.
He does the same thing when he comments to most posters here. He is interested in having a voice to the broader audience that reads here rather than posts here.
Look at the views for any thread and then count the active posters in the thread.
It's a whole different ball game than point counter point between two posters.
As Stink likes to point out #BigPicture, #Hearts&Minds
Exactly. One reason I don’t hide any poster. I’ll read em all and respond even to the trolls if I have the time.
Note Tom’s excuse that the fake antifa twitters were made by others. White supremacy, kkk and probably Trump. BS. These people are as easily fooled by 2nd grade attempts at subversion as the second graders that produce it.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.
It's not a crime to be a member of that particular group or any other for that matter. But the President can institute punishments that fit the crime and narrative. He will and should do that.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:22 PM)Claw Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.
It's not a crime to be a member of that particular group or any other for that matter. But the President can institute punishments that fit the crime and narrative. He will and should do that.
ANTIFA is not a U.S.-only organization.
True, but the crimes they commit here will be considered terrorist acts.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
How is this relevant? ANTIFA is not a U.S.-only organization.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.
It's not a crime to be a member of that particular group or any other for that matter. But the President can institute punishments that fit the crime and narrative. He will and should do that.
The legislature institutes laws while the executive branch enforces them. The President, within the framework of existing law, can recommend punishment, but the judicial branch would then hand down the sentence. Thankfully, within our system, we do not give any 1 person the right to draft, enforce and interpret the law.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:52 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.
It's not a crime to be a member of that particular group or any other for that matter. But the President can institute punishments that fit the crime and narrative. He will and should do that.
The legislature institutes laws while the executive branch enforces them. The President, within the framework of existing law, can recommend punishment, but the judicial branch would then hand down the sentence. Thankfully, within our system, we do not give any 1 person the right to draft, enforce and interpret the law.
The actions of Antifa will be considered acts of terrorism, as the President has stated.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:49 PM)Claw Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
How is this relevant? ANTIFA is not a U.S.-only organization.
Antifa isn’t a centralized organization, period... which makes all of this political blabber rather nonsensical anyway. For those committing crimes, they should be punished accordingly. Anything else is attempting to score political points... and so be it.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:49 PM)Claw Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
How is this relevant? ANTIFA is not a U.S.-only organization.
Antifa isn’t a centralized organization, period... which makes all of this political blabber rather nonsensical anyway. For those committing crimes, they should be punished accordingly. Anything else is attempting to score political points... and so be it.
It's not even really organized period. But to hear the cons tell it, they basically paint them as more organized than the trump administrations response to the virus.
(This post was last modified: 06-01-2020 02:07 PM by Redwingtom.)
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:49 PM)Claw Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
How is this relevant? ANTIFA is not a U.S.-only organization.
Antifa isn’t a centralized organization, period... which makes all of this political blabber rather nonsensical anyway. For those committing crimes, they should be punished accordingly. Anything else is attempting to score political points... and so be it.
Are you sure? How is it getting funding...because it is getting funding. Who organizes the "rallies"... because someone is organizing the rallies. We know that there are local leaders and somehow they work with each other, so my guess is that there is a leadership, just a well hidden and well funded leadership.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?
Just off the top of my head:
Animal Liberation Front
Earth Liberation Front
Aryan Nation
Black Liberation Army
Weathermen
Ku Klux Klan
United Freedom Front
All very fine people I've been told.
See, further proof that you're just a troll. Even you couldn't possibly believe the stupid things you say. You're just stirring the pot trying to get reactions from others cause you've gotten bored playing video games in your parent's basement after your job at the car wash disappeared during the pandemic.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?
Just off the top of my head:
Animal Liberation Front
Earth Liberation Front
Aryan Nation
Black Liberation Army
Weathermen
Ku Klux Klan
United Freedom Front
All very fine people I've been told.
And none of which are officially labeled terrorist organizations by the federal government. In order to be charged with “terrorism” the organization has to be on a list of 60 or so banned groups on file with the State Department and all of them are foreign. There is no federal charge of domestic terrorism.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?
Just off the top of my head:
Animal Liberation Front
Earth Liberation Front
Aryan Nation
Black Liberation Army
Weathermen
Ku Klux Klan
United Freedom Front
All very fine people I've been told.
And none of which are officially labeled terrorist organizations by the federal government. In order to be charged with “terrorism” the organization has to be on a list of 60 or so banned groups on file with the State Department and all of them are foreign. There is no federal charge of domestic terrorism.
Lol, the designation gives the D.O.J. the right to inspect, arrest and try.
RE: Trump: USA Will be Designating Antifa As Terrorist Organization
(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?
Anti-Arbortion groups,
Eco-terrorism groups
Right Wing Extremists:Neo-Nazi, Neo-Fascists, white nationalists includes the term Nationalist, white separatists, ethnonationalist, religious nationalists, Patriot/Sovereign citizens, alt-right, southern nationalists, Vangaurd America
Alpha 66
Animal Liberation Front
Army of God
Aryan Nations
Atomwaffie Division
Black Liberation Army aka New Black Panthers
The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of the Lord
Earth Liberation Front
Jewish Defense League
KKK
May 19 Communist Organization and Weather Underground
The Order
PhineasPriesthood
Symbonese Liberation Army
United Freedom Front
Weatherman
BLA and May 19 could be the major players in all of this. They both have used explosive devices in the past and have been known as hurting others. Antifa only know how to break things. We do have Right Wing Extremists also involved. With all those groups coming together is like lighting a match to a powder keg.