(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:46 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 10:54 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 05:24 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  UAH hockey is saved...for now.

I'm such a. idiot!
https://m.startribune.com/alabama-huntsv...570877932/

UAH has developed a 5 year philanthropic model and granted conference rights beyond five years too. So a southern conference is almost certainly coming.

Glad you're still lingering about! Technically you have all of Saturday for the announcements to come for two new FBS conferences. Love those weekend press releases.

And yes, the lone NCAA hockey program in the South may cling to life for a while longer with donations, in a shell of a conference with the 2 Alaska schools, which were facing severe financial problems even before COVID. This almost certainly must mean a Southern hockey conference is coming. Maybe the Alaska programs could relocate to hockey hotbed Alabama! That's a real "NoDak" of an idea!

You seem to be illiterate. High Point has already announced a hockey team with a.
arena and Lindenwood and Liberty are ready to trounce at a southern league spot.

Ready to "trounce", you say? You continue to amuse me. Hopefully there will be some actual announcement that would confirm your claims.

Speaking of your reading comprehension skills, the article does not specify anything about conference rights. You must have again misinterpreted a piece of news, intentionally or otherwise. The last sentence of the article:

"Now, to keep the program going past 2020-21, the new agreement calls for a five-year philanthropic funding plan and the resolution of its conference issue."

Not exactly conclusive.

I'm going to miss you for a short while before you come back again.

(05-30-2020 12:20 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:46 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 10:54 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 05:24 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  UAH hockey is saved...for now.

I'm such a. idiot!
https://m.startribune.com/alabama-huntsv...570877932/

UAH has developed a 5 year philanthropic model and granted conference rights beyond five years too. So a southern conference is almost certainly coming.

Glad you're still lingering about! Technically you have all of Saturday for the announcements to come for two new FBS conferences. Love those weekend press releases.

And yes, the lone NCAA hockey program in the South may cling to life for a while longer with donations, in a shell of a conference with the 2 Alaska schools, which were facing severe financial problems even before COVID. This almost certainly must mean a Southern hockey conference is coming. Maybe the Alaska programs could relocate to hockey hotbed Alabama! That's a real "NoDak" of an idea!

You seem to be illiterate. High Point has already announced a hockey team with a.
arena and Lindenwood and Liberty are ready to trounce at a southern league spot.

Ready to "trounce", you say? You continue to amuse me. Hopefully there will be some actual announcement that would confirm your claims.

Speaking of your reading comprehension skills, the article does not specify anything about conference rights. You must have again misinterpreted a piece of news, intentionally or otherwise. The last sentence of the article:

"Now, to keep the program going past 2020-21, the new agreement calls for a five-year philanthropic funding plan and the resolution of its conference issue."

Not exactly conclusive.

I'm going to miss you for a short while before you come back again.

The concept of time is missing in your universe.

(05-30-2020 12:25 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 12:20 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:46 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 10:54 PM)NoDak Wrote:  I'm such a. idiot!
https://m.startribune.com/alabama-huntsv...570877932/

UAH has developed a 5 year philanthropic model and granted conference rights beyond five years too. So a southern conference is almost certainly coming.

Glad you're still lingering about! Technically you have all of Saturday for the announcements to come for two new FBS conferences. Love those weekend press releases.

And yes, the lone NCAA hockey program in the South may cling to life for a while longer with donations, in a shell of a conference with the 2 Alaska schools, which were facing severe financial problems even before COVID. This almost certainly must mean a Southern hockey conference is coming. Maybe the Alaska programs could relocate to hockey hotbed Alabama! That's a real "NoDak" of an idea!

You seem to be illiterate. High Point has already announced a hockey team with a.
arena and Lindenwood and Liberty are ready to trounce at a southern league spot.

Ready to "trounce", you say? You continue to amuse me. Hopefully there will be some actual announcement that would confirm your claims.

Speaking of your reading comprehension skills, the article does not specify anything about conference rights. You must have again misinterpreted a piece of news, intentionally or otherwise. The last sentence of the article:

"Now, to keep the program going past 2020-21, the new agreement calls for a five-year philanthropic funding plan and the resolution of its conference issue."

Not exactly conclusive.

I'm going to miss you for a short while before you come back again.

The concept of time is missing in your universe.

Funny you should mention time, because you have less than 24 hours. And it's Saturday. Hmm...

(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 11:46 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 10:54 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2020 05:24 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  UAH hockey is saved...for now.

I'm such a. idiot!
https://m.startribune.com/alabama-huntsv...570877932/

UAH has developed a 5 year philanthropic model and granted conference rights beyond five years too. So a southern conference is almost certainly coming.

Glad you're still lingering about! Technically you have all of Saturday for the announcements to come for two new FBS conferences. Love those weekend press releases.

And yes, the lone NCAA hockey program in the South may cling to life for a while longer with donations, in a shell of a conference with the 2 Alaska schools, which were facing severe financial problems even before COVID. This almost certainly must mean a Southern hockey conference is coming. Maybe the Alaska programs could relocate to hockey hotbed Alabama! That's a real "NoDak" of an idea!

You seem to be illiterate. High Point has already announced a hockey team with a.
arena and Lindenwood and Liberty are ready to trounce at a southern league spot.

Your favorite moderator johnbragg didn't agree to the bet so nothing forcing me off. I still say the Big Sky may agree to split after Jun 1st and that isn't coverd.

All these posters cheering to lose the only southern NCAA team like you did. Should be ashamed but only cheer for yourself. UAH has a very fertile fan base that is going to come up with donations. It has been attempted to be harmed by Alabamians numerous times but has won every encounter to kill it.

Oh! I didn’t realize that in the grips of the greatest economic crisis our nation has faced in nearly a century that High Point had successfully found the ONE BILLION DOLLARS that was a prerequisite to starting a team and building an arena. Good for them!

(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Your favorite moderator johnbragg didn't agree to the bet so nothing forcing me off. I still say the Big Sky may agree to split after Jun 1st and that isn't coverd.

All these posters cheering to lose the only southern NCAA team like you did. Should be ashamed but only cheer for yourself. UAH has a very fertile fan base that is going to come up with donations. It has been attempted to be harmed by Alabamians numerous times but has won every encounter to kill it.

Didn't see this edit of yours. Good to know you won't be leaving this site that you hate and whose members you think are all morons relative to your self-perceived genius, despite your outlandish assertions being proved wrong again and again. I'm assuming you won't actually admit you were wrong about your claim that two new FBS conferences would be announced by today.

Also, I never cheered for UAH hockey to be dropped. Frankly, I don't care about the program or the school one way or the other.

UAH hockey is the truth! They are the pride of Huntsville

(05-30-2020 12:11 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Your favorite moderator johnbragg didn't agree to the bet so nothing forcing me off. I still say the Big Sky may agree to split after Jun 1st and that isn't coverd.

I asked you to clarify what your definition of "FBS conference planned" was. Because I suspected that you'd declare victory no matter what happened, saying that the conferences were, in fact planned--in secret like the Great Northern has been planned for the last 10 years or so.

But if that's what it takes, I will accept the bet, extended to June 30 as you requested, and I will give a definition. A new FBS conference announced, verified by articles accessible on google, with let's say five members confirmed. Stated in terms of what WILL happen, not an aspiration or a plan that is being explored.

(05-30-2020 12:20 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  "Now, to keep the program going past 2020-21, the new agreement calls for a five-year philanthropic funding plan and the resolution of its conference issue."

Does the funding hinge on UAH finding a conference? MAybe Atlantic Hockey adds a second long trip?

(05-30-2020 05:29 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  Oh! I didn’t realize that in the grips of the greatest economic crisis our nation has faced in nearly a century that High Point had successfully found the ONE BILLION DOLLARS that was a prerequisite to starting a team and building an arena. Good for them!

HAt tip to:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/h...a.2688565/ who linked to :
High Point Announces 10 Year Growth Plan.

Money quote:

Quote:$300 million in new construction, including a new library, academic building, admissions center and Division I ice hockey facility.

The press release is from September 2019, and there are no details about what gets built when, etc. So the plan is, IMO, very much at risk of being overtaken by financial events. (Much like UAH's arena plan, or any big capital construction project right now.)

High Point club hockey plays a roster of mostly high-profile southern college programs. https://highpointclubsports.com/sports/c...y/schedule

Liberty seems to have the money to do whatever they want, so they're a plausible candidate for pretty much anything expensive. Let's see what a little bit of research turns up. http://www.liberty.edu/campusrec/clubsports/index.cfm?pid=25961&teamID=2&seasonID=182

For one thing, Liberty club hockey played 37 games? OK, that seems normal, wikipedia says Notre Dame hockey was 15-15-7 in 2019-20. So it's High Point with the light schedule, 19 games.

Lindenwood has a club hockey program which plays at the St Louis Blues' practice facility. Their women's hockey team is Division I, so it's a possibility, but I don't see any reason to say it's a plan. (Note: Not sure St Louis MO needs a "southern league")

Bring ‘em back!

Twitter thread from a TV reporter, presumably from Alabama

1. UAH will play in 2020-21 in the WCHA (probably final season for the WCHA)
2. University will contribute $500,000 of the program's $1,500,000 budget. Fundraising (big donors and the $500,000 gofundme) raised $1M.
3. They're looking at a $2,000,000 annual budget
4. The program still needs a conference home to continue. Apparently plan A is to convince the CCHA schools. (Good luck)
5. Future of the program beyond this year is still uncertain.

(05-30-2020 08:44 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  4. The program still needs a conference home to continue. Apparently plan A is to convince the CCHA schools. (Good luck)

That seems a hard row to hoe, given that the wishlist for the eighth team is likely to include "cheaper to travel to than Huntsville" and "less of an RPI drag than Huntsville" among the bullet points.

(05-30-2020 08:15 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 05:29 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  Oh! I didn’t realize that in the grips of the greatest economic crisis our nation has faced in nearly a century that High Point had successfully found the ONE BILLION DOLLARS that was a prerequisite to starting a team and building an arena. Good for them!

HAt tip to:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/h...a.2688565/ who linked to :
High Point Announces 10 Year Growth Plan.

Money quote:

Quote:$300 million in new construction, including a new library, academic building, admissions center and Division I ice hockey facility.

The press release is from September 2019, and there are no details about what gets built when, etc. So the plan is, IMO, very much at risk of being overtaken by financial events. (Much like UAH's arena plan, or any big capital construction project right now.)

High Point club hockey plays a roster of mostly high-profile southern college programs. https://highpointclubsports.com/sports/c...y/schedule

That was sarcasm. High Point has as much chance of raising $1B and doing all those things as NoDak getting his two FBS conferences announced today.

High Point Hockey is not happening.

Not sure why UAH doesn’t put their money into going D1 and join the Atlantic sun.

(05-30-2020 11:29 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Not sure why UAH doesn’t put their money into going D1 and join the Atlantic sun.

1. UA Board of Trustees would probably look sideways at the idea, history says they'll fight anything that could remotely threaten the supremacy of Tuscaloosa and Crimson Tide footbal.
2. Division I (non-FBS) would buy UAH parity with North Alabama, Troy, Jacksonville State. That's not where UAH sees themselves.

Most of the value of hockey to UAH is that it's distinctive. "Southern college hockey" is a niche that UAH has and nobody else does. Which is also what's making it hard to sustain.

EDIT: I think I can put it more crudely, and therefore more clearly. Without Division I, UAH is a Tier 1 university, US News ranking #263, that probably has the tomb of Wehner Von Braun or something cool like that. With Division I, they're an A-Suck school like North Alabama or Kennesaw State or Florida Gulf Coast.

UGHHHHHH, are we really going to let NoDak off the hook? He said May 30, it’s May 30. It’s one thing to make fanciful predictions, it’s another thing to backtrack promises and constantly attack posters.

(05-30-2020 12:35 PM)3BNole Wrote:  UGHHHHHH, are we really going to let NoDak off the hook? He said May 30, it’s May 30. It’s one thing to make fanciful predictions, it’s another thing to backtrack promises and constantly attack posters.

Are you really worried that he's going to pull an FBS conference out of his butt between now and June 30?

(05-30-2020 12:54 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 12:35 PM)3BNole Wrote:  UGHHHHHH, are we really going to let NoDak off the hook? He said May 30, it’s May 30. It’s one thing to make fanciful predictions, it’s another thing to backtrack promises and constantly attack posters.

Are you really worried that he's going to pull an FBS conference out of his butt between now and June 30?

Now that I'd like to see!

(05-30-2020 12:54 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 12:35 PM)3BNole Wrote:  UGHHHHHH, are we really going to let NoDak off the hook? He said May 30, it’s May 30. It’s one thing to make fanciful predictions, it’s another thing to backtrack promises and constantly attack posters.

Are you really worried that he's going to pull an FBS conference out of his butt between now and June 30?

Hahahaha, I’m trembling!!!

(05-30-2020 11:12 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 08:15 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 05:29 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  Oh! I didn’t realize that in the grips of the greatest economic crisis our nation has faced in nearly a century that High Point had successfully found the ONE BILLION DOLLARS that was a prerequisite to starting a team and building an arena. Good for them!

HAt tip to:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/h...a.2688565/ who linked to :
High Point Announces 10 Year Growth Plan.

Money quote:

Quote:$300 million in new construction, including a new library, academic building, admissions center and Division I ice hockey facility.

The press release is from September 2019, and there are no details about what gets built when, etc. So the plan is, IMO, very much at risk of being overtaken by financial events. (Much like UAH's arena plan, or any big capital construction project right now.)

High Point club hockey plays a roster of mostly high-profile southern college programs. https://highpointclubsports.com/sports/c...y/schedule

That was sarcasm. High Point has as much chance of raising $1B and doing all those things as NoDak getting his two FBS conferences announced today.

High Point Hockey is not happening.

It should. The university is sitting on an abandoned mall and isn't doing much with it. It's a large space that could be redeveloped into an arena.

(05-30-2020 11:12 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 08:15 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(05-30-2020 05:29 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  Oh! I didn’t realize that in the grips of the greatest economic crisis our nation has faced in nearly a century that High Point had successfully found the ONE BILLION DOLLARS that was a prerequisite to starting a team and building an arena. Good for them!

HAt tip to:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/h...a.2688565/ who linked to :
High Point Announces 10 Year Growth Plan.

Money quote:

Quote:$300 million in new construction, including a new library, academic building, admissions center and Division I ice hockey facility.

The press release is from September 2019, and there are no details about what gets built when, etc. So the plan is, IMO, very much at risk of being overtaken by financial events. (Much like UAH's arena plan, or any big capital construction project right now.)

High Point club hockey plays a roster of mostly high-profile southern college programs. https://highpointclubsports.com/sports/c...y/schedule

That was sarcasm. High Point has as much chance of raising $1B and doing all those things as NoDak getting his two FBS conferences announced today.

High Point Hockey is not happening.

CCD is around numbrs that a have heard that has nevey been hearn heRd DI hockey. UND built is 1OO million area for less that 10% of this cost. It's a drunken fishenmen estatimes. High Point has been been a master at using data to grow in almost every way.

My niece goes to High Point. The $1 Billion number is a 10-year fundraising goal which includes about $700 Million in scholarships, a new library, admissions center and other facilities besides a hockey arena.

http://www.highpoint.edu/blog/2019/09/hp...nvestment/

In short, it will be while before we see Purple Panthers skating in D-I hockey.