Oklahoma

In the Big 12 as currently constituted:
9 B12 games
1 home/home with national opponent
1 G5
1 FCS
I'd switch the FCS for another G5, but our AD has determined that the FCS game costs $500,000 less.

In the future:
8 SEC games: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Kansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, 3 games from the East (SEC chooses KU as the expansion partner. UT chooses to stay in B12)
Texas (in Dallas)
Oklahoma State (home-and-home)
1 national opponent (home-and-home, not every year)
1 G5 (in years we don't schedule a national opponent)
1 bodybag game, FCS is fine

(05-25-2020 09:22 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-25-2020 09:12 AM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  For Kansas State give me the following

12 schools to play every year:

(Regional)
Kansas, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Arkansas, West Virginia, Iowa

(Nostalgia)
North Texas: Snyder's first win at K-State
Cincinnati: winnable non con P6
USC: big name but cats are 2-0 vs the men of Troy

Missouri: long time rivals
Kansas: main rival
Iowa State: most competitive rival
Colorado: old big 8/12 foe; some good games in the 90s and early 00s
Oklahoma State: most big 12 games have been competitive
Oklahoma: always fun to beat them
Texas: Bishop>Williams
Nebraska: 98,00,02,03 were nice
West Virginia: has sorta replaced Missouri for feelings/competition

Don’t be sure about that.

I'd love for it to be a conference game in the Big XII, and I still think Kansas State wins that game more often than not.

(05-26-2020 08:43 AM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  

(05-25-2020 09:22 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-25-2020 09:12 AM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  For Kansas State give me the following

12 schools to play every year:

(Regional)
Kansas, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Arkansas, West Virginia, Iowa

(Nostalgia)
North Texas: Snyder's first win at K-State
Cincinnati: winnable non con P6
USC: big name but cats are 2-0 vs the men of Troy

Missouri: long time rivals
Kansas: main rival
Iowa State: most competitive rival
Colorado: old big 8/12 foe; some good games in the 90s and early 00s
Oklahoma State: most big 12 games have been competitive
Oklahoma: always fun to beat them
Texas: Bishop>Williams
Nebraska: 98,00,02,03 were nice
West Virginia: has sorta replaced Missouri for feelings/competition

Don’t be sure about that.

I'd love for it to be a conference game in the Big XII, and I still think Kansas State wins that game more often than not.

Hoping we get to find out; alas I think cultural, regional and institutional bias/misconception will keep us out.

Ideally I'd like VT to associate with the teams in states around us whose fans we run into on a daily basis.

So, in conference : UVA, UNC, Duke, MD, WVU, Tenn

But you need some regional good at football and or good academic schools

So, also in conference : Clemson, GT, Miami

OOC, you need one rotating P5 heavy weight and a couple of teams to get easy wins from preferably in state.

So, OOC, : Liberty, ODU and a rotating heavy weight from : PSU/Mich/Wisc/tOSU/Fla/FSU/Ala/Aub/LSU/aTm All of which are schools that have appeared or were supposed to appear on VT's OOC the last 20 years but some were cancelled or postponed. Except Fla. Florida was never supposed to appear on our schedule.

So all in all, it looks very similar to the current ACC and OOC scheduling.

In addition to the 10 conference schools listed, I would add FSU, and UGA to get to 12


North
-----
WVU
MD
UVA
VT
UNC
Duke

South
-----
Tenn
Clemson
UGA
GT
FSU
Miami

If we go to 8 conference games and 4 OOC : 2 would be Liberty/ODU, 1 OOC heavyweight, and one shared or almost shared a conference with : Cincy/Louisville/Pitt/Cuse/BC/Wake/NCST

For Clemson:

South Carolina
Georgia
FSU
Georgia Tech

Are easy.

Then I'd say the football focused ACC teams not listed above:

VT
Louisville
Miami

I'd still like to play Wake Forest every year because unlike the public schools in the ACC and Duke they've always done what is right for he conference, and if you are looking to get yearly NC exposure you might as well get it with the only school that's a class act.

Rotating series between SEC teams we have common roots with, could do two teams per year on this:

Auburn
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
LSU
Missouri

Rotating series with fellow land grants

Michigan State, Kansas State, Penn State, Oklahoma State, Wisconsin, Purdue

Regional G5 buy game.

(05-26-2020 02:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  For Clemson:

South Carolina
Georgia
FSU
Georgia Tech

Are easy.

Then I'd say the football focused ACC teams not listed above:

VT
Louisville
Miami

I'd still like to play Wake Forest every year because unlike the public schools in the ACC and Duke they've always done what is right for he conference, and if you are looking to get yearly NC exposure you might as well get it with the only school that's a class act.

Rotating series between SEC teams we have common roots with, could do two teams per year on this:

Auburn
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
LSU
Missouri

Rotating series with fellow land grants

Michigan State, Kansas State, Penn State, Oklahoma State, Wisconsin, Purdue

Regional G5 buy game.

Would love to play you guys. 4 game series in Manhattan, Death Valley, Arrowhead and Charlotte?

If you insist on 12: UGAg, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Florida, UNC, Vanderbilt, Duke, NC State


If I'm not so constrained: UGAg, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Florida. 9 teams is the perfect scheduling number. Round robin in football. Home/home round robin in basketball. Round robin weekend series in baseball.

The ideal schedule for Kent State would probably be this

1. Ohio
2. BGSU
3. Akron
4. Miami
5. Buffalo
6. Toledo
7. Western Michigan
8. Ball State/NIU/Eastern Michigan (all are desired but I have run out of conference games so any one is good and switch them out eveyr year)
9. Local P5 such as Pittsburgh/Ohio State/Penn State/Kentucky/ND/etc
10. Interesting P5 not local such as Florida/Georgia/USC/etc
11. Localish G5 such as Cincinnati/Western Kentucky/Temple/UMASS/etc
12. Non local G5 that would provide an interesting game such as a Whyoming/ASU/USU/etc

I think the schedule would be fun and get all the most important things in it but is also possible even today. Oddly it is the G5 games that are the hardest for Kent to fit what with their desire to get more payday games in the mix.

Based on our current situation, my ideal set up for Georgia Southern would be:

Games @ UGA, Ga Tech, South Carolina, and Clemson on a yearly rotation
Games vs Mercer, Furman, Kennesaw State, and Wofford on a yearly rotation
Home-Home's with UCF and USF on rotation
Leave one spot open on the Out-of-Conference slate for another G5 or P5 game

Conference schedule consisting of: App State, Georgia State, Troy, UAB, MTSU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte

For USF. This in an ideal world where the configuration would be "P" level:

Florida
FSU or Miami (rotation)
UCF
FAU or FIU (rotation)
ECU
Tulane
Auburn
Georgia Tech
Cincy
UConn
Rutgers
Houston or Memphis (rotation)

Team: BYU

Annual: Utah, Notre Dame, Utah State, Boise State, Hawaii

Remainder: BYU should treat its road games like precious treasure. BYU should only play at Utah State in Logan about once every three or four years. Road games should be reserved for P5 opponents or MWC/AAC opponents in CA, TX, FL. After the annual games, BYU should prioritize:

1) annual game in California,
2) annual game in Texas or Florida/Georgia,
3) annual neutral-site game in either Las Vegas or Phoenix.
(in its neutral-site Phoenix game a couple of years ago, BYU outdrew the Arizona Wildcats)
4) an annual game in one of the marquee P5 stadiums (B1G, SEC, Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, etc.)

Start every season in Week 0, with either Hawaii or MWC school in Provo (using Hawaii exemption flexibility).

AUGUST
Week 0 - [Hawaii] or [MWC opponent] in Provo

SEPTEMBER
Las Vegas or Glendale, AZ stadium versus PAC/B1G
USC/Stan/UCLA in Provo
AAC
SEC/ACC/B12

OCTOBER
Utah State in Provo
[Friday night of Church General Conference weekend (held Sat & Sun]
PAC/B1G
[Notre Dame]
Boise State

NOVEMBER
SEC/ACC/B12
AT USC/Stan/UCLA
Utah

DECEMBER
[AT Hawaii] OR [Notre Dame]

vs. Cincinnati (long tradition dating back to the 19th century)
vs. Marshall (was a hot rivalry in their MAC days)
vs. Dayton (used to be a mild rivalry in the 60s when they were D1)
@ Northwestern (big alumni presence in Chicago, plus a short drive for me)
vs. Ohio U (our main conference rival)
vs. Buffalo (they've had a decent team lately)
vs. Ball State (closest MAC team geographically speaking)
vs. Toledo (haven't played them since 2011 due to MAC scheduling format)
@ Bowling Green (to fill conference schedule space)
@ Kent State (see BG)
@ Akron (see BG)
@ NIU (see Northwestern)

We're actually not incredibly far from this scenario for the upcoming season, we have both OU and UC at home (weird lately since we played UC at Paul Brown Stadium in 2018 and it threw home matchups out of order) plus Army at home and a nearby away game at Pitt. So of course we're looking at a season with no crowds.

(05-25-2020 10:06 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Oklahoma

In the Big 12 as currently constituted:
9 B12 games
1 home/home with national opponent
1 G5
1 FCS
I'd switch the FCS for another G5, but our AD has determined that the FCS game costs $500,000 less.

In the future:
8 SEC games: A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Kansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, 3 games from the East (SEC chooses KU as the expansion partner. UT chooses to stay in B12)
Texas (in Dallas)
Oklahoma State (home-and-home)
1 national opponent (home-and-home, not every year)
1 G5 (in years we don't schedule a national opponent)
1 bodybag game, FCS is fine

I like your thinking, but it looks like too many games to me. 7 SEC West games + 3 East games + Texas + OK St. + 1 national opponent/G5 + 1 bodybag = 14 games?

And though I like that system, playing Texas/Ok St. and a national opponent means playing 11 P5 games a year, which is an awesome schedule but a murders row.

Not to mention that going to 16 schools probably means a 9 game conference slate: (3 permanents, rotate the other 12 H/H).

Team: Georgia

Annual: Florida, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia Yech, Tennessee, S. Carolina

Rotation: Virginia Tech, Alabama, LSU, FSU, Oregon, Notre Dame, Ga. Southern

Remainder: maybe a game vs Miami-FL every once in a while, along with Syracuse and Michigan.



Team: Oregon

Annual Washington, Oregon State, Stanford, Cal, USC, Purdue

Rotation Georgia, Auburn, Michigan State, Colorado, Washington State

Remainder Portland State, Florida State, games in California, Texas, and Florida are a must!!!

Team : Troy

Annual S. Alabama, Ga. Southern, UAB (UA's B team), App State, Arkansas State, Southern Miss

Rotation : Middle Tennessee, Wake Forest, Georgia State, ULM, Jax State

For Kentucky:

Annual rivals in priority order for all sports with annual home/home for applicable sports (basketball, baseball, softball, etc.)
1. Tennessee
2. Louisville
3. Indiana
4. West Virginia
5. Virginia Tech

Biennial in football (play both home/home over four years), annual for all other sports:

6. Michigan and Michigan State
7. Ohio State and Cincinnati (got to stay in the state of Ohio for recruiting)

Triennial in football (play all home/home over six years), annual in all other sports:
8. Illinois, Missouri, and Arkansas
9. Penn State, Maryland, and North Carolina
10. South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida
11. Open slot premier game for all sports in a certain year (i.e. Kansas, UCLA, Arizona, etc.)
12. Open slot football home game for $$$ (i.e. Western Kentucky, Marshall, MTSU, etc.)

This sets up 7 home/5 away football games, a 24-game basketball schedule with 12 home/12 away, and enough open slots for flexibility in showcase games in the region and nationally.

The rest of the non-football schedule would be made up of regional foes like Vanderbilt, Purdue, Pitt, Virginia, etc., and those same schools would get a premier slot for all sports every decade or so. Despite being in the same conference, UK does not have deep rivalries to the traditional SEC West schools, so they would hopefully be in that rotation, as well.

For Louisville:

1. Florida State
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Virginia Tech
5. Miami FL
6. Kentucky
7. West Virginia
8. Pittsburgh
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. Cincinnati
12. Western Kentucky

Syracuse:

Conference
Notre Dame/Penn State or other National Top 15
Buffalo (This should be a regular game)
UConn/UMass/Regional G5
Regional P5 (Former Big East, Current B1G East or other .

Team: Boston College
Rivalry games: UCONN, UMASS (Commonwealth Cup), Notre Dame (Holy War)
Rest of the schedule: Northeast corridor (Boston-DC)

Potential rotating games for BC:

Syracuse
Pitt
Penn St.
Temple
Rutgers
Maryland
West Virginia
Va Tech

Illinois:

Other than Big Ten games, the only non conference I'd want to play would be Missouri and I'm lukewarm to them. When I was there, they were never that big a game. Just like Penn State, when your conference has you play nine conference games and five road conference games every other year, it's hard to schedule a permanent home and home or neutral site game every year without giving up flexibility. Unlike Penn State that has small national championship aspirations, I can see Illinois doing a permanent home and home or annual game in St. Louis (although the dome is outdated). Maybe they'd be willing to have some years they would play six home games and still do some home and homes with other P5's. Illinois isn't Penn State, they don't draw 100,000 fans per game.