(05-27-2020 04:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:52 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  That form of protest has lost its effectiveness on me. It used to bother me at the beginning, but so many people are doing it now I just no longer care. I'll probably quickly forget it, as I don't like to think about athletes as political figures. Just play and play well.

So because he is an athlete, he does not have a right to protest police brutality? Then which professions/people have the right?

He has every right to protest. He does not have the right to disrespect our flag.

I have the right to not watch any player or their team that does this too. I haven't watched the NFL in years and years and years.

But that is the thing Bartlett...The protest is not about disrespecting the flag, it about wanting the country to live up to the ideals that the National Anthem is supposed to represent.

(05-27-2020 03:59 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  So, because he is playing basketball, his right to protest is suspended, and he only gets that right after the game is over?

When you're in uniform, either as an employee or a student, you are representing that organization and must act appropriately. THAT is the heart of the issue. He can protest at any time when he is not representing something else. It's no different than any other code of conduct. When you are representing an organization you cannot simply do as you please, there are rules.

On your own time? That's another story.

(05-27-2020 03:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  This was the original tweet
Not even gonna lie I’m never pledging allegiance to the American Flag before any of my games or anywhere I’m at ever again. I refuse to pledge allegiance to a country that practices killing black people for sport.

So, the country has an agenda to kill black people? The same country that elected Obama? I have actually never talked to anyone that was out to kill any black people and many of them had guns and could have done it easily. You would think that if that was the case.....the entire NRA membership would be out killing black people.

(05-27-2020 04:13 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:59 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  So, because he is playing basketball, his right to protest is suspended, and he only gets that right after the game is over?

When you're in uniform, either as an employee or a student, you are representing that organization and must act appropriately. THAT is the heart of the issue. He can protest at any time when he is not representing something else. It's no different than any other code of conduct. When you are representing an organization you cannot simply do as you please, there are rules.

On your own time? That's another story.

I understand your point. But he still has that right to protest. Now the repercussions of that protest is what he will have to deal with. If he is willing to risk that to get his point across, then even if you don't agree with the protest, you have to at least respect that.

(05-27-2020 04:17 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  This was the original tweet
Not even gonna lie I’m never pledging allegiance to the American Flag before any of my games or anywhere I’m at ever again. I refuse to pledge allegiance to a country that practices killing black people for sport.

So, the country has an agenda to kill black people? The same country that elected Obama? I have actually never talked to anyone that was out to kill any black people and many of them had guns and could have done it easily. You would think that if thst was the case.....the entire NRA membership would be out killing black people.

I understand what you're saying, but they are not protesting for nothing. Its not made up. It just seems like its getting worse for people of color.

(05-27-2020 03:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  This was the original tweet
Not even gonna lie I’m never pledging allegiance to the American Flag before any of my games or anywhere I’m at ever again. I refuse to pledge allegiance to a country that practices killing black people for sport.

And this right here is why it is stupid. Go protest Africa where they literally make a practice of killing black people for sport.

(05-27-2020 04:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:31 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  This was the original tweet
Not even gonna lie I’m never pledging allegiance to the American Flag before any of my games or anywhere I’m at ever again. I refuse to pledge allegiance to a country that practices killing black people for sport.

And this right here is why it is stupid. Go protest Africa where they literally make a practice of killing black people for sport.

Why would he protest Africa when his issue is an American one? Interesting.....

(05-27-2020 03:52 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  That form of protest has lost its effectiveness on me. It used to bother me at the beginning, but so many people are doing it now I just no longer care. I'll probably quickly forget it, as I don't like to think about athletes as political figures. Just play and play well.

So because he is an athlete, he does not have a right to protest police brutality? Then which professions/people have the right?

I didn't say "Shut up and play", I said I don't care. All I care about is how he plays. He can kneel if it suits him. Don't care.

(05-27-2020 03:38 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Lance needs to play better... and then more folks would pay attention to his protest.

Translation: Stick to sports, Lance where you belong. Screw the fact that you're human andarea affected but the problems in this country. Problems that don't affect me personally..

(05-27-2020 04:10 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 04:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:52 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  That form of protest has lost its effectiveness on me. It used to bother me at the beginning, but so many people are doing it now I just no longer care. I'll probably quickly forget it, as I don't like to think about athletes as political figures. Just play and play well.

So because he is an athlete, he does not have a right to protest police brutality? Then which professions/people have the right?

He has every right to protest. He does not have the right to disrespect our flag.

I have the right to not watch any player or their team that does this too. I haven't watched the NFL in years and years and years.

But that is the thing Bartlett...The protest is not about disrespecting the flag, it about wanting the country to live up to the ideals that the National Anthem is supposed to represent.

Again, I have no problem with him protesting, but there is no reason to disrespect all the men and women who died so that he would have the right to protest. I'm pretty pizzed off about the same thing he's pizzed off about, but this is about a small group of bad people that did something really bad. This country as a whole didn't do it, you can't blame the whole country. Those people will be punished, although not nearly enough I suspect.

Maybe he'd like to live in China better?

I have no problem with it whatsoever. I respect his decision.

(05-27-2020 03:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  Why?

Watch the 10min clip (click the Facebook link) of three cops pinning an already handcuffed man down severely impacting his breathing. Also see the bodily fluids leave his body as he slowly dies due to three heavy officers bearing down on him unrelenting while in an uncomfortable position. Note his pleas to breathe and pleas to be allowed to sit in the cruiser rather than be used as a sofa by three large officers.

Also note bystanders in real time reporting on thedeath of this individual at the hands of the cops. Also note EMT workers failed to do their jobs which may have saved his life.

(05-27-2020 05:04 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 04:10 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 04:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:52 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  That form of protest has lost its effectiveness on me. It used to bother me at the beginning, but so many people are doing it now I just no longer care. I'll probably quickly forget it, as I don't like to think about athletes as political figures. Just play and play well.

So because he is an athlete, he does not have a right to protest police brutality? Then which professions/people have the right?

He has every right to protest. He does not have the right to disrespect our flag.

I have the right to not watch any player or their team that does this too. I haven't watched the NFL in years and years and years.

But that is the thing Bartlett...The protest is not about disrespecting the flag, it about wanting the country to live up to the ideals that the National Anthem is supposed to represent.

Again, I have no problem with him protesting, but there is no reason to disrespect all the men and women who died so that he would have the right to protest. I'm pretty pizzed off about the same thing he's pizzed off about, but this is about a small group of bad people that did something really bad. This country as a whole didn't do it, you can't blame the whole country. Those people will be punished, although not nearly enough I suspect.

Maybe he'd like to live in China better?

I don't share your optimism that those that did this will be punished. There have been too many instances where those perpetrators have gotten off scot free after killing an unarmed black man. Police brutality has been an issue in minority community for years, but it wasn't until the kneeling protest started, that a lot of people outside of those communities actually noticed. They may not agree with the protest, but they at least know that there is a major issue of police brutality in minority communities.

(05-27-2020 03:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  Why?

96% of the country agrees with Thomas. Him and others need to come up with a form of protest that doesn't legitimately piss off most of the people that agree with him. It can be almost anything else except taking a dump on the flag. Many people see the confederate flag as a non racist symbol. Their opinion doesn't matter.

It's the same principle.

(05-27-2020 05:04 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 04:10 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 04:05 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:52 PM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:10 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  That form of protest has lost its effectiveness on me. It used to bother me at the beginning, but so many people are doing it now I just no longer care. I'll probably quickly forget it, as I don't like to think about athletes as political figures. Just play and play well.

So because he is an athlete, he does not have a right to protest police brutality? Then which professions/people have the right?

He has every right to protest. He does not have the right to disrespect our flag.

I have the right to not watch any player or their team that does this too. I haven't watched the NFL in years and years and years.

But that is the thing Bartlett...The protest is not about disrespecting the flag, it about wanting the country to live up to the ideals that the National Anthem is supposed to represent.

Again, I have no problem with him protesting, but there is no reason to disrespect all the men and women who died so that he would have the right to protest. I'm pretty pizzed off about the same thing he's pizzed off about, but this is about a small group of bad people that did something really bad. This country as a whole didn't do it, you can't blame the whole country. Those people will be punished, although not nearly enough I suspect.

Maybe he'd like to live in China better?

Naw, he wants to stay here in his HOME. He just wants people that look like him to be treated better.

(05-27-2020 05:15 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(05-27-2020 03:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  Why?

Watch the 10min clip (click the Facebook link) of three cops pinning an already handcuffed man down severely impacting his breathing. Also see the bodily fluids leave his body as he slowly dies due to three heavy officers bearing down on him unrelenting while in an uncomfortable position. Note his pleas to breathe and pleas to be allowed to sit in the cruiser rather than be used as a sofa by three large officers.

Also note bystanders in real time reporting on thedeath of this individual at the hands of the cops. Also note EMT workers failed to do their jobs which may have saved his life.

Completely sickening and even though it sickens white people too, it keeps happening over and over and over. I really can't imagine how horrible it is to be in your shoes.

Also, below is the video just before the 10min murder.

He was not violently resisting as the officers claim. Heck, the initial police report claims the officers witnessed George having difficulties and that they tried to administer help but that he passed away afterwards. It's clear in the 10min video the officers take was bogus. THEY caused his distress and inability to breathe and did not assist in a helping way.

Aside from that, other EMT workers have reviewed the footage and commented on the ways the EMT workers ohn the scene failed to stop the murder (Ican't find that clip at the moment but it doesn't matter anyways. The 10min video says enough). They (EMT workers) did nothing whatsoever to aid the man.

Keep in mind four officers were on the scene yet they were somehow unable to simply place him in the patrol car. Instead, 3 of them had to sit on him for ten minutes while he labored to simply breathe. 10 freakin mins.

The age of the cell phone camera will in and of itself eventually stop a lot of this crap.

Oh yea. Forgot to mention that his suspected crime was forgery. Yep that's right. Forgery.

Treated like that for the crime of forgery. If only all lives mattered....

(05-27-2020 05:47 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  Oh yea. Forgot to mention that his suspected crime was forgery. Yep that's right. Forgery.

Treated like that for the crime of forgery. If only all lives mattered....

Why are you going on and on like this? Everyone agrees.