RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 12:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 10:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:
(05-22-2020 01:08 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: I guess God wanted it to abide by the law.
Making jokes about arson of a church. Your mom should be very proud of the jerk she raised.
Buildings burn down everyday; and we have no idea who burned down this one or why they did.
If God didn’t want it to burn down, then it wouldn’t have... right?
and we are all left to speculate as to why.
People die every day as well, the question is always was it natural causes or wrongful death. The same is true of fires. If a bus hits you tomorrow will that be God's will? Of course not. But since you are both hypocritical and amazingly dense you take a swipe at believers anyway. If God doesn't exist why waste your time arguing against the concept? The only reasonable assumption is that you are angry at God because you don't believe God blesses you. Truly, if God doesn't exist why waste the energy? The only other reasonable assumption if you truly don't believe is that you are trolling those who do. Either way you are a disingenuous jerk. But hey there's no crime against that. But good luck with it!
It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
So in your first paragraph, you complain about people using "God's will" for political reasons. Then you try to claim that it is more than likely the church burning the church down. OK
2nd paragraph is more I'm sick of people using the will of god as acceptance of bad things happening.
Then there is the 3rd paragraph where you get even more general about people mixing politics and religion for their own political purposes.
Do you want people to pretend that they don't have a particular set of beliefs when they are considering political positions? Or is it that you don't want them to have beliefs that run contrary to your own? Is it OK for you to use your beliefs to shape your political direction/beliefs?
Oh, and why are you so angry at God and what he allows?
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
Reckless charges?
People threaten them, burn the church down and then brag about it by leaving graffiti mocking them in an obvious hate crime.
That is your definition of "reckless charges"?
You sound like Joseph Goebbels when asked about Jewish businesses being burned to the ground. "Those evil Jews and their reckless charges of religious persecution. They probably burned it down themselves"
You are a living, breathing modern day nazi fascist.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2020 01:55 PM by ericsrevenge76.)
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
Reckless charges?
People threaten them, burn the church down and then brag about it by leaving graffiti mocking them in an obvious hate crime.
That is your definition of "reckless charges"?
You sound like Joseph Goebbels when asked about Jewish businesses being burned to the ground. "Those evil Jews and their reckless charges of religious persecution. They probably burned it down themselves"
You are a living, breathing modern day nazi fascist.
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
Reckless charges?
People threaten them, burn the church down and then brag about it by leaving graffiti mocking them in an obvious hate crime.
That is your definition of "reckless charges"?
You sound like Joseph Goebbels when asked about Jewish businesses being burned to the ground. "Those evil Jews and their reckless charges of religious persecution. They probably burned it down themselves"
You are a living, breathing modern day nazi fascist.
Dang, went right for the jugular.
Time to call a spade a spade
If that's not a fascist nazi like response I don't know what is.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2020 02:05 PM by ericsrevenge76.)
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 10:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:
(05-22-2020 01:08 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: I guess God wanted it to abide by the law.
Making jokes about arson of a church. Your mom should be very proud of the jerk she raised.
Buildings burn down everyday; and we have no idea who burned down this one or why they did.
If God didn’t want it to burn down, then it wouldn’t have... right?
and we are all left to speculate as to why.
People die every day as well, the question is always was it natural causes or wrongful death. The same is true of fires. If a bus hits you tomorrow will that be God's will? Of course not. But since you are both hypocritical and amazingly dense you take a swipe at believers anyway. If God doesn't exist why waste your time arguing against the concept? The only reasonable assumption is that you are angry at God because you don't believe God blesses you. Truly, if God doesn't exist why waste the energy? The only other reasonable assumption if you truly don't believe is that you are trolling those who do. Either way you are a disingenuous jerk. But hey there's no crime against that. But good luck with it!
It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
I thought we were waiting to see if it was arson before rushing to judgment one way or the other?
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 10:26 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Making jokes about arson of a church. Your mom should be very proud of the jerk she raised.
Buildings burn down everyday; and we have no idea who burned down this one or why they did.
If God didn’t want it to burn down, then it wouldn’t have... right?
and we are all left to speculate as to why.
People die every day as well, the question is always was it natural causes or wrongful death. The same is true of fires. If a bus hits you tomorrow will that be God's will? Of course not. But since you are both hypocritical and amazingly dense you take a swipe at believers anyway. If God doesn't exist why waste your time arguing against the concept? The only reasonable assumption is that you are angry at God because you don't believe God blesses you. Truly, if God doesn't exist why waste the energy? The only other reasonable assumption if you truly don't believe is that you are trolling those who do. Either way you are a disingenuous jerk. But hey there's no crime against that. But good luck with it!
It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
I thought we were waiting to see if it was arson before rushing to judgment one way or the other?
I think investigators already determined it was arson. At least that's what an article I read mentioned.
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 01:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
Reckless charges?
People threaten them, burn the church down and then brag about it by leaving graffiti mocking them in an obvious hate crime.
That is your definition of "reckless charges"?
You sound like Joseph Goebbels when asked about Jewish businesses being burned to the ground. "Those evil Jews and their reckless charges of religious persecution. They probably burned it down themselves"
You are a living, breathing modern day nazi fascist.
Again, who burned down this church? Do you know?
If you want to play Nazi hunter then check out who burned down their own Reichstag in order to build public sentiment against their proclaimed communist enemies. Basically killing 2 birds with 1 proverbial stone. And yes, the claims being made against states and municipalities who are facing difficult decisions about reopening are reckless and politically motivated.
And Holly Springs, MS is hardly a breeding ground for religious persecution.
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2020 02:16 PM by Marc Mensa.)
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 02:07 PM)VA49er Wrote:
(05-27-2020 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Buildings burn down everyday; and we have no idea who burned down this one or why they did.
If God didn’t want it to burn down, then it wouldn’t have... right?
and we are all left to speculate as to why.
People die every day as well, the question is always was it natural causes or wrongful death. The same is true of fires. If a bus hits you tomorrow will that be God's will? Of course not. But since you are both hypocritical and amazingly dense you take a swipe at believers anyway. If God doesn't exist why waste your time arguing against the concept? The only reasonable assumption is that you are angry at God because you don't believe God blesses you. Truly, if God doesn't exist why waste the energy? The only other reasonable assumption if you truly don't believe is that you are trolling those who do. Either way you are a disingenuous jerk. But hey there's no crime against that. But good luck with it!
It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
I thought we were waiting to see if it was arson before rushing to judgment one way or the other?
I think investigators already determined it was arson. At least that's what an article I read mentioned.
To be specific if it was a church member, or pastor, or an outside force with an agenda is the pertinent matter. Church arsons occur for a variety of reasons. Disgruntled church members, pastors in denominations where there is local control of the property and the temptation to let insurance provide updated facilities, outside development interest might spur a misguided soul to speed up the motivation to move, spite, those who hate that denomination or religion, etc. Lately some mega churches who have built on bond issues are defaulting and at such a time arson becomes a temptation for many parties. But that's what happens when earthly things are confused with spiritual ones, but it happens all the time and always has.
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 02:08 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Again, who burned down this church? Do you know?
If you want to play Nazi hunter then check out who burned down their own Reichstag in order to build public sentiment against their proclaimed communist enemies. Basically killing 2 birds with 1 proverbial stone.
And Holly Springs, MS is hardly a breeding ground for religious persecution.
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(This post was last modified: 05-27-2020 02:18 PM by ericsrevenge76.)
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 02:15 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:
(05-27-2020 02:08 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Again, who burned down this church? Do you know?
If you want to play Nazi hunter then check out who burned down their own Reichstag in order to build public sentiment against their proclaimed communist enemies. Basically killing 2 birds with 1 proverbial stone.
And Holly Springs, MS is hardly a breeding ground for religious persecution.
RE: Church in Holly Springs, Mississippi, refused to close, so it was burned down...
(05-27-2020 02:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 02:07 PM)VA49er Wrote:
(05-27-2020 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:
(05-27-2020 01:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-27-2020 12:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: People die every day as well, the question is always was it natural causes or wrongful death. The same is true of fires. If a bus hits you tomorrow will that be God's will? Of course not. But since you are both hypocritical and amazingly dense you take a swipe at believers anyway. If God doesn't exist why waste your time arguing against the concept? The only reasonable assumption is that you are angry at God because you don't believe God blesses you. Truly, if God doesn't exist why waste the energy? The only other reasonable assumption if you truly don't believe is that you are trolling those who do. Either way you are a disingenuous jerk. But hey there's no crime against that. But good luck with it!
It’s no swipe at believers... it’s a swipe at those who claim God’s will when it aligns with their political/ spiritual beliefs. It’s a swipe at the reckless charges of religious persecution... when arson is usually an inside job.
And most would claim a random bus accident is every bit as much the will of God as a death of natural causes.
I’m not angry at God. I’m angry at those who purposefully intertwine politics and religion in order to advance their political goals.
I thought we were waiting to see if it was arson before rushing to judgment one way or the other?
I think investigators already determined it was arson. At least that's what an article I read mentioned.
To be specific if it was a church member, or pastor, or an outside force with an agenda is the pertinent matter. Church arsons occur for a variety of reasons. Disgruntled church members, pastors in denominations where there is local control of the property and the temptation to let insurance provide updated facilities, outside development interest might spur a misguided soul to speed up the motivation to move, spite, those who hate that denomination or religion, etc. Lately some mega churches who have built on bond issues are defaulting and at such a time arson becomes a temptation for many parties. But that's what happens when earthly things are confused with spiritual ones, but it happens all the time and always has.