(05-23-2020 02:58 PM)Penny1 Wrote: He would be the best white baller to ever suit up for the Tigers.
I want to play this game - best white baller ... who was the last one you guys thought was great. I mean, Austin Nichols in most recent memory, even though he defected ... but before that, man, I just remember growing up in the 90s, after moving to Memphis in '91 and following in love with Justin Wimmer's game. I thought he was great for his role, etc. ....
i know we've had a ton of walk-ons, so I am not going to mention them, because they never really got significant playing time. Honestly, all I can remember are Nichols and Wimmer ... someone give me some names.
Billy "The Kid" Cook by far. Kevin Fromm. Dennis Isbell could jump out of the coliseum.
The good news - He's a good player. Seen him in person twice against Seton Hall. Frosh year played really well in Pick and Roll with Jessie Govan -- yes the nephew of Gerald Govan the Memphis ABA Center. This past year Govan gone but a transfer big and McClung did well in Pick and Roll. He and Seton Hall AA guard were best players on court in a tight rough game with a Louisville Memphis style shoving match. So a strong scoring post player would seem to appeal to him....
The bad news - this guy is basically an East Tennessee kid (he is from a Bristol, Va village part of Tri-Cities). His father played football at Va Tech, has been a practicing attorney and now County Attorney for Bristol, etc. His sister played soccer at UT. Not a typical profile for a Memphian.
(05-24-2020 09:13 AM)mccarverslawyer Wrote: The good news - He's a good player. Seen him in person twice against Seton Hall. Frosh year played really well in Pick and Roll with Jessie Govan -- yes the nephew of Gerald Govan the Memphis ABA Center. This past year Govan gone but a transfer big and McClung did well in Pick and Roll. He and Seton Hall AA guard were best players on court in a tight rough game with a Louisville Memphis style shoving match. So a strong scoring post player would seem to appeal to him....
The bad news - this guy is basically an East Tennessee kid (he is from a Bristol, Va village part of Tri-Cities). His father played football at Va Tech, has been a practicing attorney and now County Attorney for Bristol, etc. His sister played soccer at UT. Not a typical profile for a Memphian.
Would be nice to see Penny get him. We'll see.
If McClung wants to be an attorney, then he'll go to one of the other choices.
If he wants to better his pg skills and play in the NBA, then he'll pick Memphis and play for Penny.
(05-22-2020 12:35 PM)tkgrrett Wrote: I dont even understand this question. He was a reliable 16 ppg scorer in a league head and shoulders above the AAC.
He would be the 2nd best off the dribble scoring option on our team maybe behind Jeffries.. and this is for a team that had massive scoring droughts and guards that looked completely lost on offense all of last year.
No kidding. He’d be a starter day one. While he may not seem as flashy S some our players, he consistently gets it done while playing in a much better conference. Other than Precious, many of our players seemed lost much of the time. This guy is a reliable player. Would be a great pickup!
Some of you have lost your f’ing minds...
Stats don't prove that.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
What guard do we have that is better than McClung at penetrating the land and either finishing or making a good pass without turning it over?
(05-22-2020 12:35 PM)tkgrrett Wrote: I dont even understand this question. He was a reliable 16 ppg scorer in a league head and shoulders above the AAC.
He would be the 2nd best off the dribble scoring option on our team maybe behind Jeffries.. and this is for a team that had massive scoring droughts and guards that looked completely lost on offense all of last year.
No kidding. He’d be a starter day one. While he may not seem as flashy S some our players, he consistently gets it done while playing in a much better conference. Other than Precious, many of our players seemed lost much of the time. This guy is a reliable player. Would be a great pickup!
Some of you have lost your f’ing minds...
Stats don't prove that.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
He averaged 13 as a freshman in the Big East. We couldn’t score last year and was a big reason we weren’t going to make the tournament. Our guards couldn’t take care of the ball, and that was another reason we weren’t making the tournament. Precious was our only reliable scorer down the stretch last year. Quinones is the only Memphis player that has the potential to score like Mac. Again, starter day 1.
(05-22-2020 02:12 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: No kidding. He’d be a starter day one. While he may not seem as flashy S some our players, he consistently gets it done while playing in a much better conference. Other than Precious, many of our players seemed lost much of the time. This guy is a reliable player. Would be a great pickup!
Some of you have lost your f’ing minds...
Stats don't prove that.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
He averaged 13 as a freshman in the Big East. We couldn’t score last year and was a big reason we weren’t going to make the tournament. Our guards couldn’t take care of the ball, and that was another reason we weren’t making the tournament. Precious was our only reliable scorer down the stretch last year. Quinones is the only Memphis player that has the potential to score like Mac. Again, starter day 1.
We didn't make the tournament because they didn't have one.
(05-22-2020 02:12 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: No kidding. He’d be a starter day one. While he may not seem as flashy S some our players, he consistently gets it done while playing in a much better conference. Other than Precious, many of our players seemed lost much of the time. This guy is a reliable player. Would be a great pickup!
Some of you have lost your f’ing minds...
Stats don't prove that.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
What guard do we have that is better than McClung at penetrating the land and either finishing or making a good pass without turning it over?
We have no perimeter player better than McClung & no one who could play the point better than McClung. He would be a great addition. Hope we stay on him.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
He averaged 13 as a freshman in the Big East. We couldn’t score last year and was a big reason we weren’t going to make the tournament. Our guards couldn’t take care of the ball, and that was another reason we weren’t making the tournament. Precious was our only reliable scorer down the stretch last year. Quinones is the only Memphis player that has the potential to score like Mac. Again, starter day 1.
We didn't make the tournament because they didn't have one.
We weren’t going to make it anyway, unless they won the AAC tournament (which we wouldn’t because we turned the ball over constantly and couldn’t score).....
(05-24-2020 09:13 AM)mccarverslawyer Wrote: The good news - He's a good player. Seen him in person twice against Seton Hall. Frosh year played really well in Pick and Roll with Jessie Govan -- yes the nephew of Gerald Govan the Memphis ABA Center. This past year Govan gone but a transfer big and McClung did well in Pick and Roll. He and Seton Hall AA guard were best players on court in a tight rough game with a Louisville Memphis style shoving match. So a strong scoring post player would seem to appeal to him....
The bad news - this guy is basically an East Tennessee kid (he is from a Bristol, Va village part of Tri-Cities). His father played football at Va Tech, has been a practicing attorney and now County Attorney for Bristol, etc. His sister played soccer at UT. Not a typical profile for a Memphian.
Would be nice to see Penny get him. We'll see.
If McClung wants to be an attorney, then he'll go to one of the other choices.
If he wants to better his pg skills and play in the NBA, then he'll pick Memphis and play for Penny.
It's as simple as that.
Texas Tech and Auburn are better programs now and Arkansas is in a better conference and have had several tournament teams since the 4Kingz went pro.
Haven't been on here in awhile as we buried our mother last week after a five month hospitalization with a trach tube stuck in her throat. Just as well this message board is likewise dying a progressive slow death with people who contributed information and context replaced with hollow opinions voiced by kid p'ant trolls massaging fragile self-confidence.
Kind of like a large family - there's always that one you try to work with/around until you just accept it for what it is and walk away.
(05-22-2020 02:12 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: No kidding. He’d be a starter day one. While he may not seem as flashy S some our players, he consistently gets it done while playing in a much better conference. Other than Precious, many of our players seemed lost much of the time. This guy is a reliable player. Would be a great pickup!
Some of you have lost your f’ing minds...
Stats don't prove that.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
He averaged 13 as a freshman in the Big East. We couldn’t score last year and was a big reason we weren’t going to make the tournament. Our guards couldn’t take care of the ball, and that was another reason we weren’t making the tournament. Precious was our only reliable scorer down the stretch last year. Quinones is the only Memphis player that has the potential to score like Mac. Again, starter day 1.
As I said arguable that he is the best offensive player...Differing opinions are allowed!!!
But I think it is clear that Alo, Q and Baugh are much better defenders.
Same as Nolley he played on a losing team regardless of conference. We were 21-10. Georgetown was 15-17 and VT was 16-16.
I just don't see these two being any better than the guys we have.
Ours guys get after it defensively. Do Nolley and Mac?
You must not have watched last year. Quinones was the only player (other than Precious) that scored in double figures (just over 10). The AAC isn’t a bad conference, buts it’s not the Big East. Mac averaged 15 plus last year, and 13 the year before. And he was getting a lot of defensive attention.
Our guards turned the ball over more than I’ve ever seen. Very little poise down the stretch. Mac would be our best guard...
Best OFFENSIVE guard...And that is arguable because our guards were freshmen.
Yeah he scored more points but he took many more shots as well (Volume shooter)
I think Q, Lomax, Baugh and Boogie are much better defenders...
He averaged 13 as a freshman in the Big East. We couldn’t score last year and was a big reason we weren’t going to make the tournament. Our guards couldn’t take care of the ball, and that was another reason we weren’t making the tournament. Precious was our only reliable scorer down the stretch last year. Quinones is the only Memphis player that has the potential to score like Mac. Again, starter day 1.
As I said arguable that he is the best offensive player...Differing opinions are allowed!!!
But I think it is clear that Alo, Q and Baugh are much better defenders.
I never watched highlights of McClung playing defense so I have no idea where he falls on the defensive spectrum. In saying that, Q has the ability to be an elite college defender, Baugh has the size and athleticism to be an elite defender at any level and Alo is a very solid and extremely pesky defender so all three are above average defenders IMO. So, I would expect most guards coming in to not be as defensively able as them. I also believe Penny will make any player a better defender if they want to see the court for him.
We desperately need a scorer. We lacked that so many times this year. Our defense kept us close but we just could not get the buckets to win because we did not have a consistent offensive threat. I do think it is possible that Boogie turns into that player and he definitely has to the potential to, it is just a matter IF he does or not. With McClung you pretty well know you are getting that kind of player.
(05-22-2020 09:56 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: He's a + 17.6 player when he's in the game for Georgetown. I will go with that until I hear a rational explanation why I shouldn't:-)
Definitely not saying you shouldn't, but a number that big might say more about the other players and/or coaching for Georgetown than what it says about McClung.
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(05-24-2020 09:13 AM)mccarverslawyer Wrote: The good news - He's a good player. Seen him in person twice against Seton Hall. Frosh year played really well in Pick and Roll with Jessie Govan -- yes the nephew of Gerald Govan the Memphis ABA Center. This past year Govan gone but a transfer big and McClung did well in Pick and Roll. He and Seton Hall AA guard were best players on court in a tight rough game with a Louisville Memphis style shoving match. So a strong scoring post player would seem to appeal to him....
The bad news - this guy is basically an East Tennessee kid (he is from a Bristol, Va village part of Tri-Cities). His father played football at Va Tech, has been a practicing attorney and now County Attorney for Bristol, etc. His sister played soccer at UT. Not a typical profile for a Memphian.
Would be nice to see Penny get him. We'll see.
If McClung wants to be an attorney, then he'll go to one of the other choices.
If he wants to better his pg skills and play in the NBA, then he'll pick Memphis and play for Penny.
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