(05-03-2020 12:47 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Never stayed at home for a minute that I didn’t want to. I observed common sense precautions and went about my business. The problem with this country now is the way many of our citizens want a nanny state. Some people just never grow up and need a daddy their entire lives. I don’t need a daddy.

(05-03-2020 12:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-03-2020 12:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-03-2020 12:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...43101.html

I had observed the quarantines less and less observed. This article talks about why.

"...Such voluntary obedience to the law requires  massive buy-in  from the people at large. A minority of, say, 15%-20% may be too small to cause disruption at the ballot box, but it can severely tax the enforcement instruments of the government -- if they are sufficiently motivated. It is analogous to the “heckler’s veto": one person can shout down a speaker if he is willing to endure the disapproval of the others in the crowd. 

This is why a continued quarantine may be more tenuous than the polls make it seem. A large majority of Americans approve, which is all well and good. But we should also ask just how intense the opposition of the minority is. If the minority is convinced that the government’s dictates are capricious, arbitrary, and ruinous, we should not expect them to sit idly by forever. 

Nor should we!..."

Democrats are no longer liberals, they are now marxists totalitarian prog filth.

lol your 'just for men' must be wearing off...don't worry, Supercuts will be open soon.

Didn't realize either that all the governors are democrats.

(05-04-2020 11:10 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  So what happened to the '30 days to slow the spread' narrative that the media pounded for days and days?

Now it has morphed to '∞ days until the virus is totally gone, because IF IT SAVES EVEN ONE LIFE!!1'

Moving the goal posts seems to be a larger epidemic than Covid-19.

(05-04-2020 12:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-03-2020 12:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-03-2020 12:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-03-2020 12:17 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...43101.html

I had observed the quarantines less and less observed. This article talks about why.

"...Such voluntary obedience to the law requires  massive buy-in  from the people at large. A minority of, say, 15%-20% may be too small to cause disruption at the ballot box, but it can severely tax the enforcement instruments of the government -- if they are sufficiently motivated. It is analogous to the “heckler’s veto": one person can shout down a speaker if he is willing to endure the disapproval of the others in the crowd. 

This is why a continued quarantine may be more tenuous than the polls make it seem. A large majority of Americans approve, which is all well and good. But we should also ask just how intense the opposition of the minority is. If the minority is convinced that the government’s dictates are capricious, arbitrary, and ruinous, we should not expect them to sit idly by forever. 

Nor should we!..."

Democrats are no longer liberals, they are now marxists totalitarian prog filth.

lol your 'just for men' must be wearing off...don't worry, Supercuts will be open soon.

Didn't realize either that all the governors are democrats.

Take a look at the States that are still holding on to strict shelter in place type edicts, and tell me what side those governors fall on.

There was a story on Bristol TN/VA today. A restaurant owner in Bristol VA could only stand in his empty restauraunt, which is being kept closed by the high order from Governor Blackface Coonman, and stare 50 feet down the street where restaurants were bustling with business on the TN side.

Mass Governor is republican; however, he may be the most squarely on the fence of anyone. He is still on the hardo-strict side on this. One of very few left who still won't let you play golf.

As much as I want him to start loosening up I still like him - however I will qualify that statement with the fact that he comes from the state of Warren, Markey and a host of other America hating d-ckwads.

(05-04-2020 01:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There was a story on Bristol TN/VA today. A restaurant owner in Bristol VA could only stand in his empty restauraunt, which is being kept closed by the high order from Governor Blackface Coonman, and stare 50 feet down the street where restaurants were bustling with business on the TN side.

Northam referenced this exact scenario last week. He initially opposed opening up the state on a regional basis in favor of opening it all at one time. He did mention he is open to discussing opening the Bristol area earlier than other areas. I mean, the state line goes straight down the middle of main street I believe. No idea if he will actually do that as I've heard nothing about it since last week.

why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

"Non-living things like businesses."

You DO know who WORKS for businesses, right? Living things. Living things that rely on those businesses to be able to feed themselves and their children.

What a colossal idiot you are.

The government does not have the capacity to take care of you. Period.

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

(05-04-2020 02:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

Any actual evidence of anyone being denied a surgery and then dying as a result?

(05-04-2020 01:18 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Mass Governor is republican; however, he may be the most squarely on the fence of anyone. He is still on the hardo-strict side on this. One of very few left who still won't let you play golf.

As much as I want him to start loosening up I still like him - however I will qualify that statement with the fact that he comes from the state of Warren, Markey and a host of other America hating d-ckwads.

He is one of the few who didn't formally ban everything. Early on he advised, but it didn't carry the force of law as it did in 40 other states that shut down.

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

This statement tells me you have never owned or ran a business in your life.

Part of living is dying, we all will die....from something. Ruining the economy of this country and most of the world will kill a lot more people than this virus will. Broke or rich, you will someday be in that cemetery. But if you are scared of dying from this virus you dont need your government to keep you safe.

Lock yourself in your apt and dont open the door for anyone. 100% safe from this virus and you can do that on your own. The pharmacy that employs you can find someone else to ask..."name, DOB, you have any other questions"

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Nyquil, you need to stick to reading the computer screen and reciting the side-effects of yeast infection medications, and leave the heavy lifting to others.

As a mandatory employee who still goes to the office every other weekday, I've noticed the traffic gradually getting worse.

(05-04-2020 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

Any actual evidence of anyone being denied a surgery and then dying as a result?

An acquaintance of my wife...the lady's husband was scheduled to have an "elective" heart procedure...they were banned from happening. The man died from the heart related issue last week.

Does that count?

(05-04-2020 03:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

Any actual evidence of anyone being denied a surgery and then dying as a result?

An acquaintance of my wife...the lady's husband was scheduled to have an "elective" heart procedure...they were banned from happening. The man died from the heart related issue last week.

Does that count?

awwwwwww heyall naw...it doesn't fit into the latest version of 'provisions' from the covidian branch of dickbrains....

the level of dippo's stupidity never ceases to amaze thine....

who/what/why determined what surgeries were (s)elective is beyond my ability to withhold punchin' a mofo in the bridge of their nose....

#breakingKneecapsAndBustingBalls

it's disgusts me when I read/hear stories like your wife's acquaintance...to that, I'm sincerely saddened and pissed T F OFF....

I don't know how anyone other than those with vapid brain cells vote dippo at this point....

(05-04-2020 03:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

Any actual evidence of anyone being denied a surgery and then dying as a result?

An acquaintance of my wife...the lady's husband was scheduled to have an "elective" heart procedure...they were banned from happening. The man died from the heart related issue last week.

Does that count?

Sounds like a potential lawsuit against the state

The govt refused to allow a hosptial to treat a dying person

My body my choice??

Saw that California is moving to Phase II.

I was surprised but my friend in Fresno says that governor is scared of the Democrats losing control of the state.

(05-04-2020 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:03 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are medical decisions for public safety now being politicized? Oh yeah...many Americans care more about non-living things like money and businesses over living breathing people. Personally I’d rather be broke and alive than the richest dude at the cemetery. Oh well.

Exactly...like being able to get surgeries to stop you from dying of something besides COVID. Why are those things being politicized and shut down?

Any actual evidence of anyone being denied a surgery and then dying as a result?

Likely not. They'll just toe-tag it Covid and be done with it. Pays better anyway.