Forbes gives Davis & Elkins a B- while the HCB link I posted gave them a failing grade. I take Forbes with a grain of salt especially they gave Mount Ida high praises.

(04-02-2020 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 08:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

Quote:Those are community colleges. Not real big boy, 4 year colleges.

OMG ... if you have to claim that West Texas Panhandle Baptist is "big boy" football, worth tens of thousands more a year to ride the pine at as the 70th guy on the roster, then anywhere, including a JUCO, then you've jumped the shark. No, a Megaladon.

Good Lord.

Not big boy football. A big boy college (where Joseph Gribble can play football). Oklabama Lutherbaptacostal University is an accredited 4 year college. Tarrant County CC is not.

OMG please no stop! Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200. Nobody in the History Of The World ever perceived a $25k per year difference worth of prestige or status or college experience between a D3 PanHandle Vision of God school and Tarrantown CC. Nobody, Nada, Zilcho. Except maybe your cousin you've told me about.

I mean, just stop. Megaladon jumped very successfully.

Well, that's the whole disagreement right there. You're wrong. There's a big perception gap between enrolling out of high school at a 4-year university, and not doing that. And community college (or junior college) is on the "not doing that" side of the fence. Open-wallet open-admission universities would be out of business if that weren't the case.

(04-02-2020 02:11 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 08:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

Quote:Those are community colleges. Not real big boy, 4 year colleges.

OMG ... if you have to claim that West Texas Panhandle Baptist is "big boy" football, worth tens of thousands more a year to ride the pine at as the 70th guy on the roster, then anywhere, including a JUCO, then you've jumped the shark. No, a Megaladon.

Good Lord.

Not big boy football. A big boy college (where Joseph Gribble can play football). Oklabama Lutherbaptacostal University is an accredited 4 year college. Tarrant County CC is not.

OMG please no stop! Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200. Nobody in the History Of The World ever perceived a $25k per year difference worth of prestige or status or college experience between a D3 PanHandle Vision of God school and Tarrantown CC. Nobody, Nada, Zilcho. Except maybe your cousin you've told me about.

I mean, just stop. Megaladon jumped very successfully.

Well, that's the whole disagreement right there. You're wrong.

I'm right, and you have jumped a Megaladon. There's a tiny almost imperceptible status gap between D3 Northern Panhandle Baptist Seminary and Navarro College JC. Tiny. Maybe a couple hundred dollars worth. And it might actually be in Navarro's favor. But either way, $25k is LOL territory.

(04-02-2020 04:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 02:11 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 08:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  OMG ... if you have to claim that West Texas Panhandle Baptist is "big boy" football, worth tens of thousands more a year to ride the pine at as the 70th guy on the roster, then anywhere, including a JUCO, then you've jumped the shark. No, a Megaladon.

Good Lord.

Not big boy football. A big boy college (where Joseph Gribble can play football). Oklabama Lutherbaptacostal University is an accredited 4 year college. Tarrant County CC is not.

OMG please no stop! Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200. Nobody in the History Of The World ever perceived a $25k per year difference worth of prestige or status or college experience between a D3 PanHandle Vision of God school and Tarrantown CC. Nobody, Nada, Zilcho. Except maybe your cousin you've told me about.

I mean, just stop. Megaladon jumped very successfully.

Well, that's the whole disagreement right there. You're wrong.

I'm right, and you have jumped a Megaladon. There's a tiny almost imperceptible status gap between D3 Northern Panhandle Baptist Seminary and Navarro College JC. Tiny. Maybe a couple hundred dollars worth. And it might actually be in Navarro's favor. But either way, $25k is LOL territory.

Nope. One's a college. A real college, not barber or junior or clown.
One isn't.
Is the status worth $30 or 40k over 2 years (less financial aid)? Probably not, but tons of parents and student loans say different

Junior colleges are real colleges. They’ve changed millions of lives for the better.

(04-02-2020 04:58 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 02:11 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Not big boy football. A big boy college (where Joseph Gribble can play football). Oklabama Lutherbaptacostal University is an accredited 4 year college. Tarrant County CC is not.

OMG please no stop! Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200. Nobody in the History Of The World ever perceived a $25k per year difference worth of prestige or status or college experience between a D3 PanHandle Vision of God school and Tarrantown CC. Nobody, Nada, Zilcho. Except maybe your cousin you've told me about.

I mean, just stop. Megaladon jumped very successfully.

Well, that's the whole disagreement right there. You're wrong.

I'm right, and you have jumped a Megaladon. There's a tiny almost imperceptible status gap between D3 Northern Panhandle Baptist Seminary and Navarro College JC. Tiny. Maybe a couple hundred dollars worth. And it might actually be in Navarro's favor. But either way, $25k is LOL territory.

Nope. One's a college. A real college, not barber or junior or clown.
One isn't.
Is the status worth $30 or 40k over 2 years (less financial aid)? Probably not, but tons of parents and student loans say different

You weren't happy jumping The Meg once, you had to do it again.

ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

(04-01-2020 11:53 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 11:33 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:19 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 02:31 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  2. College towns. Just the thought of being stuck in the middle of nowhere on top of thousands of students will make many cringe.

You're saying that small towns will lose out? I really doubt that.

Look at NYC. It is such a problem right now because it is so densely populated. You are right that dorms are a huge risk factor, but that's often the only place in town that's densely populated. Major cities are like that everywhere. You can't escape it. In a small town, small college, you could (in theory) decompress the population by giving each student their own dorm room. Not a good long term solution financially in the long term, but it may get them by for a semester or two. School administrators have control of this. And once you're off campus, you've got a lot more space than urban schools.

Again, in a city, there's no escape. There is no authority that can control how densely populated it is.

I'm thinking its going to be more popular to attend the state school online and not pay board than go to a college town and live in a dorm. That is the comparison I'm making.

50 years ago college was thought of as going away to one of those little college towns for school. Commuter school experience was considered second tier.

It has changed a ton, even in 10 years. At the beginning of my HS, community colleges and commuter schools were mentioned as the butt of jokes. Fast forward 5 years and a bunch of people, even smart ones, attended them. (And directionals are getting hit hard.)

Community colleges and commuter schools will probably come out winners of COVID-19, like the 2008 recession. Kids just like staying home nowadays. Why not save money, live in a better/more comfortable home than a dorm, and still stay close to your friends?

I also think this trend is why more kids seem to be sticking with their HS group of friends, and not as many are moving onto new friend groups as people used to.

While I'm not sure if the disruptions will get to the point where it massively shakes up the D1 and lower division athletic structure I'm fairly confident we'll see a shake up in University hierarchy.

One thing I will say is that commuter schools like UIC or VCU have a brand advantage over the community colleges. Normally community colleges lack specialized majors.

Picking up a general business degree from a community college is designed more for people who are already in the workforce trying to round out the resume.

Many of those commuter schools served that purpose 50 years ago but now have upped their quality on par with residential state schools.

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

We are not looking at the sports aspects of this. We are looking at the whole picture. Less or no students that brings in the money would get these smaller schools to go broke because they do not have the cash to pay off their debt for upgrading the classrooms, dorms and so forth. The first thing they will cut to help save the schools would be the sports. If that does not work? They will go the way of MacMurray, Cincinnati Christian, Concordia-Portland, Notre Dame in California and others who recently closed down.

To go back to the original question of this thread, "Will Corona Virus be an impetus for D2 and D3 schools to shutter athletics?" The answer would appear to be "No". D3 Augustana College in Rock Island, IL made two announcements five days apart in the last week (Apr 2, Apr 7) that they will be adding 3 sports to begin in the 2021-2022 school year. Men's and Women's Water Polo and Women's Wrestling will bring the school up to 28 sports sponsored.

WOMEN'S WRESTLING WILL BECOME AUGUSTANA'S 26TH SPORT IN 2021-22

MEN AND WOMEN'S WATER POLO ADDED TO AUGUSTANA ATHLETIC LINEUP FOR 2021-22

Also, after re-reading some of the posts in this thread I realized one major concept of how D2 works was not comprehended.

Quote:But ... that assumes that the 75 or so other players on the roster came to that school because of football, and would not have come otherwise.

Since the chance of a D2 athlete in any sport getting a full-ride is microscopic at best, a D2 football team will not have 75 players on the team paying 100% of college if that school offers 36 scholarships. Only D1 gives full scholarships and FBS is not allowed to offer partial football scholarships. If a D2 school offers the maximum of 36 football scholarships they can either give 72 players 1/2 scholarship, or give 108 players 1/3 scholarship, or any other combination as long as the total dollar amount of a scholarship does not exceed the equivalent of 36 scholarships. Hypothetically, using the D2 per team averages of 111 football players receiving 36 scholarships with an average athletic scholarship of $5,875; all 111 players can receive $1,905 in athletic scholarship aid to pay for school. Obviously that is not much and again this is only a hypothetical average of the entire division. The amount is different at every school with some players getting more, some getting less, and some getting none. This means that a high majority of all D2 athletes are being recruited and receiving some amount of athletic scholarship aid which means they came to their school because of their sport and all those players still have to pay some part of tuition and other expenses out of their own pocket.

(04-10-2020 09:15 PM)AZcats Wrote:  To go back to the original question of this thread, "Will Corona Virus be an impetus for D2 and D3 schools to shutter athletics?" The answer would appear to be "No". D3 Augustana College in Rock Island, IL made two announcements five days apart in the last week (Apr 2, Apr 7) that they will be adding 3 sports to begin in the 2021-2022 school year. Men's and Women's Water Polo and Women's Wrestling will bring the school up to 28 sports sponsored.

WOMEN'S WRESTLING WILL BECOME AUGUSTANA'S 26TH SPORT IN 2021-22

MEN AND WOMEN'S WATER POLO ADDED TO AUGUSTANA ATHLETIC LINEUP FOR 2021-22

Also, after re-reading some of the posts in this thread I realized one major concept of how D2 works was not comprehended.

Quote:But ... that assumes that the 75 or so other players on the roster came to that school because of football, and would not have come otherwise.

Since the chance of a D2 athlete in any sport getting a full-ride is microscopic at best, a D2 football team will not have 75 players on the team paying 100% of college if that school offers 36 scholarships. Only D1 gives full scholarships and FBS is not allowed to offer partial football scholarships. If a D2 school offers the maximum of 36 football scholarships they can either give 72 players 1/2 scholarship, or give 108 players 1/3 scholarship, or any other combination as long as the total dollar amount of a scholarship does not exceed the equivalent of 36 scholarships. Hypothetically, using the D2 per team averages of 111 football players receiving 36 scholarships with an average athletic scholarship of $5,875; all 111 players can receive $1,905 in athletic scholarship aid to pay for school. Obviously that is not much and again this is only a hypothetical average of the entire division. The amount is different at every school with some players getting more, some getting less, and some getting none. This means that a high majority of all D2 athletes are being recruited and receiving some amount of athletic scholarship aid which means they came to their school because of their sport and all those players still have to pay some part of tuition and other expenses out of their own pocket.

And NAIA, and D2, etc.

It's been comprehended just fine, just not believed, despite a mountain of evidence.

I am focused on NAIA, so I will only provide examples of that. I've seen the usual crop of "minor" sports being added in the last month like eSports, women's wrestling, bowling(!), and men's volleyball.

A couple of recruiting class releases have come through that provide perfect evidence of students coming to schools BECAUSE of athletics, and no, not on full scholarships. Here's one. 19 of 21 recruits coming from out of state to play football for a low tier NAIA public school:
http://www.victorysportsnetwork.com/Clip...hletes.htm
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VALLEY CITY (VCSU) – Valley City State University football has signed another 21 recruits for the 2020 season, head coach Dennis McCulloch announced Wednesday.

The newest signees join other announced commitments from earlier this spring. All have signed letters of intent to continue their football and academic careers at VCSU this fall.

"We're excited to get these guys on campus this fall as members of Viking Football," said McCulloch. "As with any recruiting class, we won't know the full impact until a few years down the road, but it's another exciting day to envision the future of our program."

Feb. 5: Viking Football Announces Signing of 34 Student-Athletes

The Vikings are coming off a largely successful 2019 season that saw the team go 7-3 overall and 5-2 in conference play. The Vikings tied for second in the North Star Athletic Association standings.

Valley City State University is a member of the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) and a conference member of the North Star Athletic Association (NSAA). VCSU football has won 29 conference championships dating back to 1926.

VCSU Football - 2020 Signed Recruits

North Dakota (2)
Gavin Wright - Hillsboro, N.D. - Hillsboro High School, DB - Highlights

Tariq Nelson - Garrison, N.D. - Garrison High School, DL - Highlights

Minnesota (4)
Tyson Piechowski - Breckenridge, Minn. - Breckenridge High School, TE - Highlights

Emonte Wilson - Itasca Community College, DB - Highlights

Cooper Taylor - Wabasso, Minn. - Wabasso High School, DB - Highlights

Colton Taylor - Wabasso, Minn. - Rochester Community and Technical College, DB - Highlights

Florida (4)
Chevy Octa - Naples, Fla. - Lely High School, DB - Highlights

Lens Edouard - Naples, Fla. - Lely High School, DB - Highlights

Benjamin Dumond - Naples, Fla. - Lely High School, WR - Highlights

Steven Morney - Naples, Fla. - Lely High School, WR - Highlights

Texas (4)
Jacob Romero - El Paso, Texas - Franklin High School, OL - Highlights

Leon Smith - El Paso, Texas - Franklin High School, OL - Highlights

Will Garcia - El Paso, Texas - Franklin High School, LB - Highlights

Bryce Clark - El Paso, Texas - Franklin High School, WR - Highlights

Alaska (1)
Alex Bracken - Anchorage, Alaska - Service High School, OL - Highlights

Arizona (3)
Michael Lyon - Surprise, Ariz. - Shadow Ridge High School, OL - Highlights

Tyler Ross - Surprise, Ariz. - Willow Canyon High School, WR - Highlights

Chris Weaver - Buckeye, Ariz. - Odyssey Institute of Advanced and International Studies, RB - Highlights

California (2)
Tamani Williams - Vacaville, Calif. - Vacaville High School, WR - Highlights

Shamar Oliver - Bakersfield, Calif. - Mira Monte High School, RB - Highlights

Hawaii (1)
Braeson Rosa - Wai'anae, Hawaii - Wai'anae High School, LB - Highlights

And on a personal note, my high school/college best friend's son just signed an NLI to play baseball at D3 Grove City. He had 2 criteria: engineering and baseball. Grove City gave him a workout and asked him to come. There were plenty of colleges offering good engineering programs, but he picked the one where he has a good shot at playing baseball.

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

They're not used to working with the "minimum", they are used to being largely welfare cases, depending on transfers to fund what would be huge deficits. What they don't seem to realize is that if CV results in enrollment declines and campus closures, those fees and transfers will cease as well.

(04-10-2020 11:50 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 09:15 PM)AZcats Wrote:  To go back to the original question of this thread, "Will Corona Virus be an impetus for D2 and D3 schools to shutter athletics?" The answer would appear to be "No". D3 Augustana College in Rock Island, IL made two announcements five days apart in the last week (Apr 2, Apr 7) that they will be adding 3 sports to begin in the 2021-2022 school year. Men's and Women's Water Polo and Women's Wrestling will bring the school up to 28 sports sponsored.

WOMEN'S WRESTLING WILL BECOME AUGUSTANA'S 26TH SPORT IN 2021-22

MEN AND WOMEN'S WATER POLO ADDED TO AUGUSTANA ATHLETIC LINEUP FOR 2021-22

Also, after re-reading some of the posts in this thread I realized one major concept of how D2 works was not comprehended.

Quote:But ... that assumes that the 75 or so other players on the roster came to that school because of football, and would not have come otherwise.

Since the chance of a D2 athlete in any sport getting a full-ride is microscopic at best, a D2 football team will not have 75 players on the team paying 100% of college if that school offers 36 scholarships. Only D1 gives full scholarships and FBS is not allowed to offer partial football scholarships. If a D2 school offers the maximum of 36 football scholarships they can either give 72 players 1/2 scholarship, or give 108 players 1/3 scholarship, or any other combination as long as the total dollar amount of a scholarship does not exceed the equivalent of 36 scholarships. Hypothetically, using the D2 per team averages of 111 football players receiving 36 scholarships with an average athletic scholarship of $5,875; all 111 players can receive $1,905 in athletic scholarship aid to pay for school. Obviously that is not much and again this is only a hypothetical average of the entire division. The amount is different at every school with some players getting more, some getting less, and some getting none. This means that a high majority of all D2 athletes are being recruited and receiving some amount of athletic scholarship aid which means they came to their school because of their sport and all those players still have to pay some part of tuition and other expenses out of their own pocket.

And NAIA, and D2, etc.

It's been comprehended just fine, just not believed, despite a mountain of evidence.

You've offered zero evidence, just the flimsiest of anecdotes, while all the logic is on my side.

That's just how it is.

(04-10-2020 11:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

They're not used to working with the "minimum", they are used to being largely welfare cases, depending on transfers to fund what would be huge deficits. What they don't seem to realize is that if CV results in enrollment declines and campus closures, those fees and transfers will cease as well.

I think people forget that sports is not the only reason for a school's debt. Look at Cincinnati Christian that closed down in December? It was not the sports that caused the school to close. They hired a scam artist who stole from them. That is just one example of what could help close a school down quicker with the help of coronavirus. You do have a lot of schools that have administrative leadership either steal or mismanage funds. The COVID-19 throws more fuel on the fire. You need to figure the schools overall finances which includes spending money for academic courses, the pay for the faculty, bills, dropped in student enrollment, don't expand to non-traditional students, etc.

https://www.wbur.org/edify/2020/04/11/bu...-reopening

BU says they may not re-open their school until the winter 2021 semester.

(04-11-2020 02:21 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 11:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

They're not used to working with the "minimum", they are used to being largely welfare cases, depending on transfers to fund what would be huge deficits. What they don't seem to realize is that if CV results in enrollment declines and campus closures, those fees and transfers will cease as well.

I think people forget that sports is not the only reason for a school's debt. Look at Cincinnati Christian that closed down in December? It was not the sports that caused the school to close. They hired a scam artist who stole from them. That is just one example of what could help close a school down quicker with the help of coronavirus. You do have a lot of schools that have administrative leadership either steal or mismanage funds. The COVID-19 throws more fuel on the fire. You need to figure the schools overall finances which includes spending money for academic courses, the pay for the faculty, bills, dropped in student enrollment, don't expand to non-traditional students, etc.

I agree completely - schools that are in poor financial condition can be in that way because of many reasons, not just or even primarily athletics.

Just received a letter from my daughters school TCNJ. Which is a well financed D3 school in a bus league conference. It shut down for the semester and went to remote learning right before spring break. The administration says after taking all associated expenses (refunds of housing, meals, parking etc) and savings (no travel, reduced overtime, lower utilities etc) into account, it has lost $5.3M for the fiscal year that ends in June. The financial damage was actually worse, because the school had expected to have an operating surplus that’s gone too and the accounts all have to be balanced in two months and it expects to loose a big piece of next year’s revenue from camps and summer session classes. How many schools aren’t going to be able to absorb those types of losses in that short time frame?

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

Appreciate you finding and posting this, but as far as the content ...

This story is a huge pant-load from some ADs trying to spin something positive out of that fact they're in big trouble. It's great they've learned to work with the minimum of resources, but that minimum is going to get smaller. A 10% drop in $100 million revenue stream is big, but it's a lot easier to live with than a 10% drop in a $10 million budget. In the first case, the loss is 10% of revenues; in the second, it's actually 90% of revenues. And that drop will really hurt when it comes from declines in enrollment/student fees, the university keeping its fund transfers to stay in business itself, etc.

Some other potential impacts:
--- bigger schools not being willing to pay such big fees to host smaller schools (i.e. "payday games").
--- schools saying "good-bye" instead of financing scholarships for that extra year of eligibility the NCAA granted to some spring sport student-athletes. (Scholarships are one-year-at-a-time deals, aren't they?)
--- smaller squads, especially football, i.e., non-scholarship players who represent an expense in equipment, etc.
--- smaller coaching staffs, fewer support staff (secretaries, etc.).
--- a widening gap between the "haves" and "have-nots."

(03-28-2020 07:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-28-2020 04:06 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Quo Vadis is in deep denial or too proud to admit he's wrong. Just let it go everybody....

Translation: teamsvn continues to have zero proof for his bizarro assertions, but is clinging to them anyway.

(04-12-2020 06:13 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 11:22 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  ADs Say Smaller Schools Better Suited To Weather Coronavirus Fallout

https://frntofficesport.com/athletic-dep...l-fallout/

“Some say we’re going to get hit harder because we’re working with fewer dollars,” a mid-major AD said. “But we’re used to working with the minimum.”

Appreciate you finding and posting this, but as far as the content ...

This story is a huge pant-load from some ADs trying to spin something positive out of that fact they're in big trouble. It's great they've learned to work with the minimum of resources, but that minimum is going to get smaller. A 10% drop in $100 million revenue stream is big, but it's a lot easier to live with than a 10% drop in a $10 million budget. In the first case, the loss is 10% of revenues; in the second, it's actually 90% of revenues. And that drop will really hurt when it comes from declines in enrollment/student fees, the university keeping its fund transfers to stay in business itself, etc.

Some other potential impacts:
--- bigger schools not being willing to pay such big fees to host smaller schools (i.e. "payday games").
--- schools saying "good-bye" instead of financing scholarships for that extra year of eligibility the NCAA granted to some spring sport student-athletes. (Scholarships are one-year-at-a-time deals, aren't they?)
--- smaller squads, especially football, i.e., non-scholarship players who represent an expense in equipment, etc.
--- smaller coaching staffs, fewer support staff (secretaries, etc.).
--- a widening gap between the "haves" and "have-nots."

Then again, when you practically see zero dollars AND don't play football, there's not much difference in status quo.