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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
If we don't have football.. how many athletic departments will be forced to close it's doors? Already missed out on the NCAA tournament money.. and CFB? Ouch.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-27-2020 01:09 PM)Thiefery Wrote: If we don't have football.. how many athletic departments will be forced to close it's doors? Already missed out on the NCAA tournament money.. and CFB? Ouch.
I think most of them break even anyway, right?
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
I think it is more and more likely that this happens. No MLB, maybe MLS moves to a winter fall/winter season.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
Just saw this tweet from Dennis Dodd:
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status...75/photo/1
He quotes Michael Smith of Sports Business Journal. Scenarios are being discussed which involve playing an abbreviated season beginning later in the fall. But, with cooler weather, a risk of a return of the coronavirus is involved. So, Smith reports that the idea of an abbreviated season beginning in the summer is on the table. This would depend on a number of factors, according to Smith's sources, such as:
- Would campuses be able to open and host games?
- Would media partners be receptive to such a radical idea? Given the pent-up demand for live events, perhaps so?
- Would fans turn out for games in the summer with temperatures in the 90s? Would fans even be permitted in stadiums?
- Could athletic departments recoup some of the revenue they have lost by staging a summer season?
I understand the desperation on the part of athletic departments, networks, and fans.
College football in July? In the South? Ouch.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-27-2020 10:14 PM)johnintx Wrote: College football in July? In the South? Ouch.
That would be desperation. What about games in Tempe,AZ in July and August?
If they only play a conference schedule, what does ND, Army, BYU, Liberty, UMass, UConn and NMSU do? That would make for some interesting matches. ND @ Liberty? NMSU at Notre Dame!
What about contracts, are they simply absolved? I would hate it for the school that had finally gotten X school to play a game at their place, only to see it eliminated for a shortened season.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
If some sort of conference games only schedule was devised I’d venture to say programs like BYU, ND, Army, and maybe even UConn could find a conference willing to accommodate them for the season.
ND—ACC
BYU—MWC
Army—MAC, AAC
UConn—MAC, AAC
UMass, Liberty, and NMSU might find a harder time.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if Notre Dame managed to become the 2020 ACC football champions?
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
I think it less than 50-50 that we have a college football season this fall.
There won't be any games this summer because the virus will still prevent that then.
People - and institutions - just have to get used to the idea of no college athletics for the forseeable future, it's like wartime.
(This post was last modified: 03-28-2020 07:02 AM by quo vadis.)
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
Here is an abbreviated season idea:
6 game regular season:
14 team conferences play only divisional games
In week 7 the CCG occurs between division winners, the other 12 schools pair off and play the best match ups possible, as organized by the conference office (ex. Any cross division rivalries like Auburn vs Georgia) and/or pair off schools with similar records.
The PAC 12 and Big 12 could do this too. The PAC 12 would have 1 cross division game. The Big 12 would have to create some temporary divisions and play 2 cross division games.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
The same high heat that makes you grimace at the thought of a CFB game in the South in July is the very reason that makes it safer: The coronavirus is structurally like the flu in that it is an enveloped virus, specifically a lipid enveloped virus. That lipid (fat) layer has a water content to it. When it dries out the virus done for. As anybody who has poured a drink into a parking lot in July can attest, it takes very little time indeed for water to evaporate in July in the South. It would probably be pretty safe to hold full on football games, with a worst case of in empty or reduced capacity stadiums. You'd probably want to impose an age limit (of 50?) on referees and officials and media and so on though. Some of those working chains on the sidelines can be up there.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
So here is what happened in 1918 during the Spanish Flu Pandemic--
By the end of the season, nearly 20 percent of all major football teams had shuttered their programs for the season. The Missouri Valley Conference, the forerunner to the Big 8 and Big 12, closed down completely as all seven of its member schools decided not to play football in the midst of the pandemic. In total, 16 of the 88 major programs of the period were sidelined by the Spanish flu.
The season also resulted in truncated schedules. In 1917, the median college football season lasted eight games. A year later, teams cut their schedules nearly in half as teams played on average five games that season. Where Georgia Tech went 9-0-0 to win the 1917 national championship, Michigan went just 5-0-0 and Pitt 4-1-0 as the Wolverines and Panthers split the spoils.
This the article that discusses the 1918 college season and how it might play out in 2020.
https://saturdayblitz.com/2020/03/22/col...-pandemic/
(This post was last modified: 03-28-2020 01:31 PM by Attackcoog.)
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-28-2020 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The same high heat that makes you grimace at the thought of a CFB game in the South in July is the very reason that makes it safer: The coronavirus is structurally like the flu in that it is an enveloped virus, specifically a lipid enveloped virus. That lipid (fat) layer has a water content to it. When it dries out the virus done for. As anybody who has poured a drink into a parking lot in July can attest, it takes very little time indeed for water to evaporate in July in the South. It would probably be pretty safe to hold full on football games, with a worst case of in empty or reduced capacity stadiums. You'd probably want to impose an age limit (of 50?) on referees and officials and media and so on though. Some of those working chains on the sidelines can be up there.
This is true.
Would they try to sell tickets and have normal crowds? That remains to be seen.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-28-2020 01:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: The same high heat that makes you grimace at the thought of a CFB game in the South in July is the very reason that makes it safer: The coronavirus is structurally like the flu in that it is an enveloped virus, specifically a lipid enveloped virus. That lipid (fat) layer has a water content to it. When it dries out the virus done for. As anybody who has poured a drink into a parking lot in July can attest, it takes very little time indeed for water to evaporate in July in the South. It would probably be pretty safe to hold full on football games, with a worst case of in empty or reduced capacity stadiums. You'd probably want to impose an age limit (of 50?) on referees and officials and media and so on though. Some of those working chains on the sidelines can be up there.
People are hopeful that the summer will offer a respite from the virus for the reasons you outline, but since this is our first contact with this virus, we don't know exactly how it reacts to heat and humidity. Plus it's also spread in the Southern Hemisphere, where they're transitioning out of summer and are still plenty warm, and areas that are warm year-round like Thailand. So how it reacts is still something of an x factor.
The other thing: I think everyone hopes it comes to pass so we can get a few weeks or couple of months of relative normalcy before the specter of a second wave emerges, but when that window opens and how long is stays open is unknown and unknowable. Unless you commit to a very abbreviated season (six games and whatever postseason) it's going to be hard to know if you can get it in. Alaska starts their season in early August but they also have a good idea climatologically when they can't expect it to be temperate enough to play outside. We won't have that luxury; if it comes, it comes when it comes.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: (03-27-2020 10:14 PM)johnintx Wrote: College football in July? In the South? Ouch.
That would be desperation. What about games in Tempe,AZ in July and August?
All of a sudden, half the teams want to be on "Pac-12 After Dark"!
(03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: If they only play a conference schedule, what does ND, Army, BYU, Liberty, UMass, UConn and NMSU do?
I'm sure if Notre Dame petitioned the ACC to go all-in for football immediately that the conference would be willing to re-do the schedule for them, even at this late date.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
I think the "better" option (acknowledging that short of the coronavirus going away tomorrow and never coming back, the options are varying degrees of worse) would be to drop conference play entirely this season and let schools schedule what they can, when they can. If you can get six games, great; if you can get eight, greater; if you can only get four, it's OK, look at the time we live in. Presumably the in-conference rivals would line up a game, or possible an in-season home-and-home, with each other.
That said, how this would work with bowls, I don't know. Can they suspend the contracts for a year and take the best options they can grab, or do the conferences just pick teams and send them along, since there wouldn't be a conference season to establish a hierarchy? Do bowls even happen? Do we have a playoff or just let the polls determine the "national champion"?
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-31-2020 11:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: (03-27-2020 10:14 PM)johnintx Wrote: College football in July? In the South? Ouch.
That would be desperation. What about games in Tempe,AZ in July and August?
All of a sudden, half the teams want to be on "Pac-12 After Dark"!
(03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: If they only play a conference schedule, what does ND, Army, BYU, Liberty, UMass, UConn and NMSU do?
I'm sure if Notre Dame petitioned the ACC to go all-in for football immediately that the conference would be willing to re-do the schedule for them, even at this late date.
I am doubtful about a 2020 college football season.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-31-2020 01:55 PM)TerryD Wrote: (03-31-2020 11:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: (03-27-2020 10:14 PM)johnintx Wrote: College football in July? In the South? Ouch.
That would be desperation. What about games in Tempe,AZ in July and August?
All of a sudden, half the teams want to be on "Pac-12 After Dark"!
(03-28-2020 06:40 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote: If they only play a conference schedule, what does ND, Army, BYU, Liberty, UMass, UConn and NMSU do?
I'm sure if Notre Dame petitioned the ACC to go all-in for football immediately that the conference would be willing to re-do the schedule for them, even at this late date.
I am doubtful about a 2020 college football season.
It will be difficult.
They can talk about playing college football in empty stadiums, but many schools would conclude that without the home game revenue -- it can be several million a game for the wealthiest programs -- there's not enough upside to outweigh the downsides.
Even in empty stadiums and arenas, athletes who are not showing symptoms can spread the virus to other athletes and coaches, as Rudy Gobert and others have done.
And any sport or league that plays in full stadiums before there's a vaccine for this virus is risking a repeat of this:
Game Zero: Spread of virus linked to UEFA Champions League match between Atalanta and Valencia
Quote:ROME (AP) — It was the biggest soccer game in Atalanta’s history and a third of Bergamo’s population made the short trip to Milan’s famed San Siro Stadium.
Nearly 2,500 fans of visiting Spanish club Valencia also traveled to that Champions League match.
More than a month later, experts are pointing to the Feb. 19 game as one of the biggest reasons why Bergamo has become one of the epicenters of the coronavirus pandemic — a “biological bomb” was the way one respiratory specialist put it — and why 35% of Valencia’s team became infected.
The match, which local media have dubbed “Game Zero,” was held two days before the first case of locally transmitted COVID-19 was confirmed in Italy.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
I suspect if they don’t think they can get 8 games in they don’t play.
There are not many programs making more from media rights than attendance, sponsorships and donations (generally tied to seating).
NFL and NBA and probably MLB given choice of no media revenue or no gate revenue will pick no gate. College football playing empty stadiums is much bigger hit as percentage of income.
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RE: Could We Have A Year Without College Football?
(03-31-2020 08:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote: I suspect if they don’t think they can get 8 games in they don’t play.
There are not many programs making more from media rights than attendance, sponsorships and donations (generally tied to seating).
NFL and NBA and probably MLB given choice of no media revenue or no gate revenue will pick no gate. College football playing empty stadiums is much bigger hit as percentage of income.
I don't expect a season at this point. I think COVID19 will peak in June and the aftermath will linger through August and nobody will have the stomach (and rightfully so) for risking a resurgence in the Fall.
I wish you and your wife the best and safe time with close family! But, I don't expect much to change. November may the first time ever I vote absentee.
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