(03-23-2020 12:38 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 12:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Must be for you. What you bolded clearly states

Quote:0.001 percent to 0.007 percent of the world’s population

So I will wait for you to figure out what percentage of the world's population has died from CoVid-19
Because you compared the world's population with the total number of infected.

Lol... I must admit, you got me there...

That said...

Quote:From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

[From same source]

(12469/60800000) x 100 = 0.021%

Still quite a bit less than the current mortality rate of Covid-19.

[/quote]

You are using ‘after the facts’ numbers. Maybe we should just make Barry president again so he can do absolutely nothing then see how this one goes looking back in ten years from now.

This is f-kin' tedious....

It does not matter who was/is in charge. NOBODY has a perfect solution, NOBODY has a perfect game plan, and NOBODY will get this exactly right.

Seriously Tom STFU.....


We all can agree that (pick an action) could have been done differently or better by a host of people from Trump, to the Senate, to congress to every other leadership in every other country on the world.


Unless you are perfect and have lead a perfect life and made every decision to handle every problem you have faced perfectly - STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(03-23-2020 02:50 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 12:54 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Eagle pointed out my error.

My point was that it appears that Covid-19 has a much higher mortality rate than the 2009 H1N1 outbreak. That's part of the reason why Obama got less criticism for his inaction when compared with Trump.

Yeah, working today. Took a while to post. You guys had an entire conversation while I was composing. Saw it after I posted but other stuff I wanted to express so I left it as is.

Most on here wouldn't admit it so kudos to you.

We honestly won't ever know the true mortality rate of Covid - 19. We will have an estimate, just like we have for swine flu. What it appears to be is pretty meaningless at this point and in the grand scheme of things.

Decisions have been made based on the best estimates. Let's hope these decisions are extremely overblown. If they are overblown (or underestimated for that matter), let's hope we realize it as quickly as possible and adjust.

(03-24-2020 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 08:23 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 07:44 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 12:26 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Really Tom....

That is the dumbest asshat statement you have ever made

Gee, that's too bad.

Don't be a dick Tom..... Politics should be sitting on the bench right now.

I would say that to anyone on either side of the aisle........

Like it or not he is the guy in charge right now and the last thing he needs to waste time on is a bunch of sky screamers. If it was HRC in that chair, I would be saying the same thing.

Some can't let go of their partisan hate even during time of crisis. It's sad.

And some can't read or be honest. I've said numerous times that I think Pence has done a decent job and I've also praised GOP governors like DeWine.

and trump may very well be doing a good job managing things, but his public comments have been reckless and dangerous.

Move along.

Examples of “reckless and dangerous” please.

I suspect your opinions don’t align with the majority of Americans.

(03-24-2020 01:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 11:33 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 07:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This has nothing to do with politics. They guy doesn't know what he's doing and his comments are reckless and dangerous.

Says the representative of the party who is adding Airline Fuel Emissions and Union Barganing chips to a Fuking epidemic bill...........

I represent no party. Move along.

Both sides are complicit in not getting aid to hurting Americans sooner.

Examples of your outright hate for anyone in any party that isn’t republican.

You lie that is why you lose.

(03-25-2020 08:42 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 02:50 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 12:54 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Eagle pointed out my error.

My point was that it appears that Covid-19 has a much higher mortality rate than the 2009 H1N1 outbreak. That's part of the reason why Obama got less criticism for his inaction when compared with Trump.

Yeah, working today. Took a while to post. You guys had an entire conversation while I was composing. Saw it after I posted but other stuff I wanted to express so I left it as is.

Most on here wouldn't admit it so kudos to you.

We honestly won't ever know the true mortality rate of Covid - 19. We will have an estimate, just like we have for swine flu. What it appears to be is pretty meaningless at this point and in the grand scheme of things.

Decisions have been made based on the best estimates. Let's hope these decisions are extremely overblown. If they are overblown (or underestimated for that matter), let's hope we realize it as quickly as possible and adjust.

(03-24-2020 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 08:23 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-24-2020 07:44 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Gee, that's too bad.

Don't be a dick Tom..... Politics should be sitting on the bench right now.

I would say that to anyone on either side of the aisle........

Like it or not he is the guy in charge right now and the last thing he needs to waste time on is a bunch of sky screamers. If it was HRC in that chair, I would be saying the same thing.

Some can't let go of their partisan hate even during time of crisis. It's sad.

And some can't read or be honest. I've said numerous times that I think Pence has done a decent job and I've also praised GOP governors like DeWine.

and trump may very well be doing a good job managing things, but his public comments have been reckless and dangerous.

Move along.

Examples of “reckless and dangerous” please.

I suspect your opinions don’t align with the majority of Americans.

"DRUMPF SAID DA VIRUS WAS A HOAX AND DOESN'T LISTEN TO DOCTORS!!"

(03-25-2020 08:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This is f-kin' tedious....

It does not matter who was/is in charge. NOBODY has a perfect solution, NOBODY has a perfect game plan, and NOBODY will get this exactly right.

Seriously Tom STFU.....


We all can agree that (pick an action) could have been done differently or better by a host of people from Trump, to the Senate, to congress to every other leadership in every other country on the world.


Unless you are perfect and have lead a perfect life and made every decision to handle every problem you have faced perfectly - STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

Jug ears needed to stay away. Shovel ready jobs & cash for clunkers were 2 of his most “successful” endeavors

(03-25-2020 09:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Jug ears needed to stay away. Shovel ready jobs & cash for clunkers were 2 of his most “successful” endeavors

Yeah, and he said it so eloquently. So presidential and calm. That's all he could do, read his teleprompters so well. *sigh* What a man...

...and a disastrous president. Loved by the MSM and Liberals worldwide because well, he apologized so well for our country, a country that inside he hated with a passion like his spouse.

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

and as if on queue, enter StrawMan. FTR, I've seen more about Obama and Swine recently than in 2009. The media wasn't 'all over him' as they are with Trump.

The very clear point is that if you don't like what he has to say, then don't listen to him. Clearly plenty of people listen but don't understand (obviously the 'pool guy')... but unlike you, I don't expect the President to speak to the least common denominator among us, or especially to people like you looking for reasons to be upset or offended.

The only thing reckless or dangerous about what Trump says is what people like you CLAIM he said. That doesn't make him correct or using the best verbiage or whatever else... but despite your claims, you can't point to much (if anything, I don't live and die by his words) he's said that's 'dangerous' without misrepresenting what he's said. Everything I've seen you name has been an idiots interpretation or an outright fabrication.

(03-25-2020 07:53 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 07:01 AM)Momus Wrote:  1/3 - Trump learns of virus
1/4 - Trump goes golfing
1/5 - Trump goes golfing
1/18 - Cabinet member advises virus is serious
1/18 - Trump goes golfing
1/19 - 1st US case of COVID19
1/19 - Trump goes golfing
1/27 - Mulvaney attempts to force Trump to pay attention to virus (is soon fired)
2/1 - Trump goes golfing
2/2 - Trump goes golfing
2/15 - Trump goes golfing
2/19 - Trump, “I think this is going to work out fine.”
2/28 - Trump, “This is their new hoax.”
2/29 - 1st US death
3/7 - Trump, “No, I’m not concerned at all.”
3/7 - Trump goes golfing
3/8 - Trump goes golfing
3/10 - Trump, “It will go away.”
3/13 - Trump declares national emergency.

I'll bet he pissed on a palm tree Romney like it he was a democrat.....

(03-24-2020 07:35 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Obama was the most non-essential POTUS ever. Completely worthless

Obama’s biggest accomplishment was getting elected. It was all downhill after that.

Got to admit most of my African American friends saw through him before I did. They were calling for his head in 2010. I believed in Hope & Change in 2012. That I couldn’t vote for such a lukewarm politician as Romney.

I see so many similarities between Mitt in 2012 and Bazooka Joe in 2020. Sacrificial lambs...unless some liberal steps up in this crisis. Then the DNC will screw Joe for that poor slob.

And somewhere Bernie will be saying “feels good don’t Joe“....lol

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This is f-kin' tedious....

It does not matter who was/is in charge. NOBODY has a perfect solution, NOBODY has a perfect game plan, and NOBODY will get this exactly right.

Seriously Tom STFU.....


We all can agree that (pick an action) could have been done differently or better by a host of people from Trump, to the Senate, to congress to every other leadership in every other country on the world.


Unless you are perfect and have lead a perfect life and made every decision to handle every problem you have faced perfectly - STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

You cant be liberal and not want to be quiet and trust the government to do whats best for me...

That is the entire party description, more and more government control of your daily life.

(03-25-2020 02:21 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

and as if on queue, enter StrawMan. FTR, I've seen more about Obama and Swine recently than in 2009. The media wasn't 'all over him' as they are with Trump.

The very clear point is that if you don't like what he has to say, then don't listen to him. Clearly plenty of people listen but don't understand (obviously the 'pool guy')... but unlike you, I don't expect the President to speak to the least common denominator among us, or especially to people like you looking for reasons to be upset or offended.

The only thing reckless or dangerous about what Trump says is what people like you CLAIM he said. That doesn't make him correct or using the best verbiage or whatever else... but despite your claims, you can't point to much (if anything, I don't live and die by his words) he's said that's 'dangerous' without misrepresenting what he's said. Everything I've seen you name has been an idiots interpretation or an outright fabrication.

Bless your cult loving heart.

(03-25-2020 05:29 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:34 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This is f-kin' tedious....

It does not matter who was/is in charge. NOBODY has a perfect solution, NOBODY has a perfect game plan, and NOBODY will get this exactly right.

Seriously Tom STFU.....


We all can agree that (pick an action) could have been done differently or better by a host of people from Trump, to the Senate, to congress to every other leadership in every other country on the world.


Unless you are perfect and have lead a perfect life and made every decision to handle every problem you have faced perfectly - STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

You cant be liberal and not want to be quiet and trust the government to do whats best for me...

That is the entire party description, more and more government control of your daily life.

That's just ridiculous. You clearly have no idea what a liberal actually is, but rather believe the right-wing definition. Sad.

Liberals mostly believe in government and that they have a purpose and can do good, but they clearly don't trust everything they do. Probably the biggest evidence of this is most liberals are furious over the military industrial complex for starters.

(03-26-2020 07:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 02:21 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

and as if on queue, enter StrawMan. FTR, I've seen more about Obama and Swine recently than in 2009. The media wasn't 'all over him' as they are with Trump.

The very clear point is that if you don't like what he has to say, then don't listen to him. Clearly plenty of people listen but don't understand (obviously the 'pool guy')... but unlike you, I don't expect the President to speak to the least common denominator among us, or especially to people like you looking for reasons to be upset or offended.

The only thing reckless or dangerous about what Trump says is what people like you CLAIM he said. That doesn't make him correct or using the best verbiage or whatever else... but despite your claims, you can't point to much (if anything, I don't live and die by his words) he's said that's 'dangerous' without misrepresenting what he's said. Everything I've seen you name has been an idiots interpretation or an outright fabrication.

Bless your cult loving heart.

Tom, I enjoy your posts, but you may want to take a second and reflect on that last post.

(03-26-2020 07:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-26-2020 07:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 02:21 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

and as if on queue, enter StrawMan. FTR, I've seen more about Obama and Swine recently than in 2009. The media wasn't 'all over him' as they are with Trump.

The very clear point is that if you don't like what he has to say, then don't listen to him. Clearly plenty of people listen but don't understand (obviously the 'pool guy')... but unlike you, I don't expect the President to speak to the least common denominator among us, or especially to people like you looking for reasons to be upset or offended.

The only thing reckless or dangerous about what Trump says is what people like you CLAIM he said. That doesn't make him correct or using the best verbiage or whatever else... but despite your claims, you can't point to much (if anything, I don't live and die by his words) he's said that's 'dangerous' without misrepresenting what he's said. Everything I've seen you name has been an idiots interpretation or an outright fabrication.

Bless your cult loving heart.

Tom, I enjoy your posts, but you may want to take a second and reflect on that last post.

Why...it's quite clear he's in the cult. He's in the health care industry. He knows what's going on in the hospitals. He's on the Titanic now...he's going down with the ship no matter what. Sad really.

And I look forward to his 1,000 word post he spent time on that I'll read about two words of.

The bleating of the sheep is so loud, yet so meaningless.

He getting re-elected in 2020. Deal w/ it libs

(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump's been golfing 15 times since the closing of the Chinese borders is what I've read.

We'll be lucky if we're under 12,469 deaths in 2-3 weeks. Considering Italy is about 1/5 our population and is at half those deaths (6K), and from all indications we're about 2 weeks behind them - again, 12,469 deaths would be a success story in 2-3 weeks.

I am sorry to say I was absolutely spot on with my prediction - this was 2 weeks ago. We passed that number today.

And stink - don't worry, you're off the hook. I would have never made a bet with you on this anyway.

(03-26-2020 07:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2020 07:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-26-2020 07:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 02:21 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-25-2020 08:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Right...I should just sit back...be quiet and trust the government to do what's best for me, ya know...like everyone around here did under Obama.

BTW - Again, I've said and believe that the government is actually doing most things well sans a few things, and am only wanting trump to just stop staying stupid **** that IMHO is reckless and dangerous. But hey, you do you...

and as if on queue, enter StrawMan. FTR, I've seen more about Obama and Swine recently than in 2009. The media wasn't 'all over him' as they are with Trump.

The very clear point is that if you don't like what he has to say, then don't listen to him. Clearly plenty of people listen but don't understand (obviously the 'pool guy')... but unlike you, I don't expect the President to speak to the least common denominator among us, or especially to people like you looking for reasons to be upset or offended.

The only thing reckless or dangerous about what Trump says is what people like you CLAIM he said. That doesn't make him correct or using the best verbiage or whatever else... but despite your claims, you can't point to much (if anything, I don't live and die by his words) he's said that's 'dangerous' without misrepresenting what he's said. Everything I've seen you name has been an idiots interpretation or an outright fabrication.

Bless your cult loving heart.

Tom, I enjoy your posts, but you may want to take a second and reflect on that last post.

Why...it's quite clear he's in the cult. He's in the health care industry. He knows what's going on in the hospitals. He's on the Titanic now...he's going down with the ship no matter what. Sad really.

And I look forward to his 1,000 word post he spent time on that I'll read about two words of.

amusingly, i missed this response of yours.