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The 'regular' flu
There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
This is just the liberal white man media keeping us down
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
Regular flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems as it has in China and Italy. While I don’t buy into all the hysteria, we have to at least realize that this virus has had a far reaching impact. I hope the attempts being made to mitigate the spread here will help curb the spread and we can get back to our regular routines within the next month.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
By your numbers that's a 0.05% mortality rate while COVID19 is about a 2% mortality rate. That's a huge difference. If 2% of the people who got the flu died that would be about 20 million deaths. Doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution until more is known about the virus? It's already mutated once so there are 2 strains out there now with one being worse. What happens if it mutates again to an even deadlier version? Need to flatten the curve before everyone can get on with their lives.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal white man media keeping us down
Vaccines for everyone. !!!!!!!! Follow the money.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
Swine flu 2009-10
61,000,000 Americans had it - 13,000 died from it (according to 'the official numbers'
We've had the Swine flu, the Hong Kong flu, the Bird flu now COVID-19. In 3-4 years there will be another vicious strain.
The very young, the very old, and the infirm always make up the bulk of the deaths.
Most people get it or a touch of it and then their immune systems more or less adjust to it - but the common cold and the flu are and will remain the same - you can't cure them you treat the symptoms and these bugs are always changing and mutating which is why we will always have them around.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:33 AM)lifelongtiger Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
By your numbers that's a 0.05% mortality rate while COVID19 is about a 2% mortality rate. That's a huge difference. If 2% of the people who got the flu died that would be about 20 million deaths. Doesn't it make sense to err on the side of caution until more is known about the virus? It's already mutated once so there are 2 strains out there now with one being worse. What happens if it mutates again to an even deadlier version? Need to flatten the curve before everyone can get on with their lives.
Not to argue. But at this point in the 'life cycle' of COVID19 there are no real reliable statistics. We are told we don't know how many people might have the virus because we can't test. Follow the money. So how can u determine the 'death rate'. Also how many who have died were already severely compromised. From a layman's perspective, ~5000 people's death over the entire globe doesn't seem like an emergency. Especially when ~40K die each month from 'flu like' respiratory issues. Follow the money and power grabbing.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal media keeping us down
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:38 AM)bluebacker Wrote: Swine flu 2009-10
61,000,000 Americans had it - 13,000 died from it (according to 'the official numbers'
We've had the Swine flu, the Hong Kong flu, the Bird flu now COVID-19. In 3-4 years there will be another vicious strain.
The very young, the very old, and the infirm always make up the bulk of the deaths.
Most people get it or a touch of it and then their immune systems more or less adjust to it - but the common cold and the flu are and will remain the same - you can't cure them you treat the symptoms and these bugs are always changing and mutating which is why we will always have them around.
It's not the flu though. It has "flu-like" symptoms. That doesn't make it the same thing as the flu. It's a totally different virus that has not been researched so the medical professionals know nothing about it. Again, seems prudent to err on the side of caution.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
And there's a vaccine for the "regular"/traditional annual flu.
(This post was last modified: 03-13-2020 09:47 AM by kabluey.)
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:40 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal media keeping us down
And Tucker Carlson I guess.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:38 AM)bluebacker Wrote: Swine flu 2009-10
61,000,000 Americans had it - 13,000 died from it (according to 'the official numbers'
We've had the Swine flu, the Hong Kong flu, the Bird flu now COVID-19. In 3-4 years there will be another vicious strain.
The very young, the very old, and the infirm always make up the bulk of the deaths.
Most people get it or a touch of it and then their immune systems more or less adjust to it - but the common cold and the flu are and will remain the same - you can't cure them you treat the symptoms and these bugs are always changing and mutating which is why we will always have them around.
Yep. Follow the money and who wants to get power. Then you have your answers to the 'pandemic'.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:10 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
Regular flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems as it has in China and Italy. While I don’t buy into all the hysteria, we have to at least realize that this virus has had a far reaching impact. I hope the attempts being made to mitigate the spread here will help curb the spread and we can get back to our regular routines within the next month.
I think we could save several hundred thousand lives each year if we shut down everything during seasonal flu season. It's a communicable disease and it's killing roughly 500,000 people each year. Why don't we?
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:41 AM)lifelongtiger Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:40 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal media keeping us down
And Tucker Carlson I guess.
Oh he looks like an Ole Miss frat bro. He can get it too.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:44 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:10 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
Regular flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems as it has in China and Italy. While I don’t buy into all the hysteria, we have to at least realize that this virus has had a far reaching impact. I hope the attempts being made to mitigate the spread here will help curb the spread and we can get back to our regular routines within the next month.
I think we could save several hundred thousand lives each year if we shut down everything during seasonal flu season. It's a communicable disease and it's killing roughly 500,000 people each year. Why don't we?
Because of vaccines.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:47 AM)kabluey Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:44 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:10 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
Regular flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems as it has in China and Italy. While I don’t buy into all the hysteria, we have to at least realize that this virus has had a far reaching impact. I hope the attempts being made to mitigate the spread here will help curb the spread and we can get back to our regular routines within the next month.
I think we could save several hundred thousand lives each year if we shut down everything during seasonal flu season. It's a communicable disease and it's killing roughly 500,000 people each year. Why don't we?
Because of vaccines.
He's obviously an anti-vaxxer to not even consider the witchcraft that is modern medicine.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
The obvious ways this is not like the flu.
Unlike the flu there's no resistance to this in the population. people in the population have been exposed to different strains of flu throughout their lives. This is a new virus our immune system has never seen before.
There's no vaccine. This and the fact there was no resistance in the population means there are no natural stops to the spread of covid-19.
We don't know how long this goes on. There's a "flu season" but is there a "covid-19 season?" Note that the MERS Coronavirus may have originated from Camels in the Saudi Arabian Desert where temperatures routinely go above 110. So this may not end with warm weather.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:44 AM)fsquid Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:41 AM)lifelongtiger Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:40 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal media keeping us down
And Tucker Carlson I guess.
Oh he looks like an Ole Miss frat bro. He can get it too.
I always thought Duke.
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RE: The 'regular' flu
(03-13-2020 09:44 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:10 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:24 AM)bluebacker Wrote: There are roughly 1 billion cases worldwide every year and on the average about 500,000 people die from it.
The range of deaths each year from seasonal flu is 300,000 to 650,000.
Every year.
Regular flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems as it has in China and Italy. While I don’t buy into all the hysteria, we have to at least realize that this virus has had a far reaching impact. I hope the attempts being made to mitigate the spread here will help curb the spread and we can get back to our regular routines within the next month.
I think we could save several hundred thousand lives each year if we shut down everything during seasonal flu season. It's a communicable disease and it's killing roughly 500,000 people each year. Why don't we?
You are focused on the deaths. Flu hasn’t overwhelmed health systems of two countries in modern history. It would be foolish to ignore that and just sit back and let the same happen here potentially.
And we have vaccines for the flu...
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(03-13-2020 09:56 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:44 AM)fsquid Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:41 AM)lifelongtiger Wrote: (03-13-2020 09:40 AM)bluebacker Wrote: (03-13-2020 08:42 AM)fsquid Wrote: This is just the liberal media keeping us down
And Tucker Carlson I guess.
Oh he looks like an Ole Miss frat bro. He can get it too.
I always thought Duke.
Duke is just Ole Miss douchbags from the Northeast.
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