https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2020...it-matter/

Above is the link for the article but it wont let you read it.

Incredibly interesting how Big Media protects their interests

If this were Trump would they have pulled it?

(03-11-2020 10:05 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2020...it-matter/

Above is the link for the article but it wont let you read it.

Incredibly interesting how Big Media protects their interests

If this were Trump would they have pulled it?

The "circle the wagons" mentality of the Democrats and MSM is disgusting.

ANYTHING to be in power.

I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Excerpt from the Forbes piece:

Quote:And to take a step back, Trump did indeed “ace” the Montreal Cognitive Assessment screening test back in 2018...

But the test (which is no longer easily available online for copyright reasons, but described in detail at VeryWellHealth and with a partial image at The Guardian) is meant for a specific objective: screening individuals for dementia or mild cognitive impairment...

And — folks, this is where I’ll take off the journalist hat for just a moment: I have watched someone take this test. To a cognitively unimpaired person, the questions seem trivial. But the individual that I watched take this screening could not answer questions that to an unimpaired person would seem obvious. These are not “trick questions”; it’s not an IQ test nor is it designed to ferret out nuances. But if a person really does have impairment, the test really will identify it...

Which means that, yes, if Biden’s gaffes and his outbursts are just “Biden being Biden,” then there should be an easy enough answer: Biden could take the screening test just as easily as Trump did, and just as easily pass it...

But — to address the second question in my title — I’m not sure that it matters to voters, many of whom, near as I can tell, simply see Biden as a placeholder for a moderate Democrat and are willing to case their vote even knowing that his age alone creates a fair probability that he won’t finish out his term.

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Can you paste it here please?

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Thank you for the tip!

Article basically stated that Biden should take the same mental capacity exam that Trump did as he may have cognitive impairment

Author also suggested that no one really cares about it because no one expects Biden to finish the term. He is a placeholder.

Who he picks as his VP will be very interesting

(03-11-2020 10:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Can you paste it here please?

I think copyright makes that something that should be avoided.

Also check your PM

(03-11-2020 10:21 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Can you paste it here please?

I think copyright makes that something that should be avoided.

Also check your PM

What's to copyright? It doesn't exist right?


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Does Joe Biden Have Dementia? Does It Matter?
Elizabeth Bauer
Elizabeth BauerSenior Contributor
Retirement
I write about retirement policy from an actuary's perspective.
Sens. Kamala Harris And Cory Booker Join Candidate Joe Biden At Michigan Campaign Rally On Eve Of Primary
DETROIT, MICHIGAN - MARCH 09: Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden ... [+] GETTY IMAGES
As I write this, news outlets such as CNN are reporting that former Vice President Joe Biden has won the primaries in the states of Michigan, Missouri, and Mississippi (with the remaining outcomes not yet certain). It becomes increasing probable that Biden will be the Democratic nominee for president.

And at the same time, among Republicans, at any rate, speculation continues that, as is the case for about 10% of Americans within his age range, Biden is impaired with dementia.

Here’s Roger Kimball writing at The Spectator’s US edition:

“Some people dismiss evidence of Biden’s incapacity as just a matter of ‘gaffes’, little mental hiccups of no consequence. They aren’t ‘gaffes’, i.e., simple mistakes. They are tokens of serious mental incapacity. Judge for yourself. Here’s Biden from a couple of weeks ago announcing that he is running for the US Senate (ah, the good old days). [a video follows]

“Or how about his claim that ‘150 million‘ Americans have been killed by guns since 2007? Or here he is trying to get his mind (and his mouth) around the Declaration of Independence: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident: all men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing.’”

Donald Trump, Jr., went further:

“’From the Alzheimers association webpage 'Aggressive or angry behaviors may occur in people with Alzheimer's or other dementias,’ the president's eldest son said Tuesday on Twitter in response to a video of Biden berating a Michigan man. ‘A 50 year career politician doesn't snap back this way to a blue collar guy asking him a reasonable question given his parties stance on the issue.’"

And Victor David Hansen, writing at National Review, observes:

“The problem is that we have never before witnessed a major party’s likely candidate who so early in the race seems unable to meet the grueling demands of the spring, summer, and fall campaign trail, much less the anticipated duties of president — especially from the party who insisted so loudly that Trump was non compos mentis that it apparently prompted the president to take the Montreal Cognitive Assessment screening test, which he aced, but which a current Joe Biden might well not be able to ace if similarly accused of being mentally unfit and removable via the 25th Amendment.”

And to take a step back, Trump did indeed “ace” the Montreal Cognitive Assessment screening test back in 2018. At the time, this produced triumphant reactions from some; others declared that this test would not pick up on nuances of mental decline or the bigger picture of whether Trump is fit to serve as president. And the Montreal screening is hardly the sort of test that identifies how clever one is, or how much wisdom one has, of the sort that might come in handy in managing, well, just about anything a president has to mange.

But the test (which is no longer easily available online for copyright reasons, but described in detail at VeryWellHealth and with a partial image at The Guardian) is meant for a specific objective: screening individuals for dementia or mild cognitive impairment. It consists of tasks such as drawing a clock face, naming animals based on line drawings, reciting a set of numbers forwards and backwards, listing as many words as you can think of that start with the letter “f,” and similar questions, for a total of 30 points, with 26 points required to “pass” the screening, and a lower cut-off differentiating between mild cognitive impairment and dementia itself.

And — folks, this is where I’ll take off the journalist hat for just a moment: I have watched someone take this test. To a cognitively unimpaired person, the questions seem trivial. But the individual that I watched take this screening could not answer questions that to an unimpaired person would seem obvious. These are not “trick questions”; it’s not an IQ test nor is it designed to ferret out nuances. But if a person really does have impairment, the test really will identify it.

Which means that, yes, if Biden’s gaffes and his outbursts are just “Biden being Biden,” then there should be an easy enough answer: Biden could take the screening test just as easily as Trump did, and just as easily pass it, and then everyone can just shut up about the issue — unless, that is, the claims of Republicans that he has been pushed and manipulated into this election against his own best interest, and he’d be better off having stayed in retirement, are actually well-founded.

But — to address the second question in my title — I’m not sure that it matters to voters, many of whom, near as I can tell, simply see Biden as a placeholder for a moderate Democrat and are willing to case their vote even knowing that his age alone creates a fair probability that he won’t finish out his term.



As always, you’re invited to comment at JaneTheActuary.com!



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Here is another article on the issue
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/th...term=first

(03-11-2020 10:21 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Can you paste it here please?

I think copyright makes that something that should be avoided.

Also check your PM

(03-11-2020 10:22 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:21 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Can you paste it here please?

I think copyright makes that something that should be avoided.

Also check your PM

What's to copyright? It doesn't exist right?


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EDITORS' PICK|Mar 11, 2020,01:20am EST
Does Joe Biden Have Dementia? Does It Matter?
Elizabeth Bauer
Elizabeth BauerSenior Contributor
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I write about retirement policy from an actuary's perspective.
Sens. Kamala Harris And Cory Booker Join Candidate Joe Biden At Michigan Campaign Rally On Eve Of Primary
DETROIT, MICHIGAN - MARCH 09: Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden ... [+] GETTY IMAGES
As I write this, news outlets such as CNN are reporting that former Vice President Joe Biden has won the primaries in the states of Michigan, Missouri, and Mississippi (with the remaining outcomes not yet certain). It becomes increasing probable that Biden will be the Democratic nominee for president.

And at the same time, among Republicans, at any rate, speculation continues that, as is the case for about 10% of Americans within his age range, Biden is impaired with dementia.

Here’s Roger Kimball writing at The Spectator’s US edition:

“Some people dismiss evidence of Biden’s incapacity as just a matter of ‘gaffes’, little mental hiccups of no consequence. They aren’t ‘gaffes’, i.e., simple mistakes. They are tokens of serious mental incapacity. Judge for yourself. Here’s Biden from a couple of weeks ago announcing that he is running for the US Senate (ah, the good old days). [a video follows]

“Or how about his claim that ‘150 million‘ Americans have been killed by guns since 2007? Or here he is trying to get his mind (and his mouth) around the Declaration of Independence: ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident: all men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing.’”

Donald Trump, Jr., went further:

“’From the Alzheimers association webpage 'Aggressive or angry behaviors may occur in people with Alzheimer's or other dementias,’ the president's eldest son said Tuesday on Twitter in response to a video of Biden berating a Michigan man. ‘A 50 year career politician doesn't snap back this way to a blue collar guy asking him a reasonable question given his parties stance on the issue.’"

And Victor David Hansen, writing at National Review, observes:

“The problem is that we have never before witnessed a major party’s likely candidate who so early in the race seems unable to meet the grueling demands of the spring, summer, and fall campaign trail, much less the anticipated duties of president — especially from the party who insisted so loudly that Trump was non compos mentis that it apparently prompted the president to take the Montreal Cognitive Assessment screening test, which he aced, but which a current Joe Biden might well not be able to ace if similarly accused of being mentally unfit and removable via the 25th Amendment.”

And to take a step back, Trump did indeed “ace” the Montreal Cognitive Assessment screening test back in 2018. At the time, this produced triumphant reactions from some; others declared that this test would not pick up on nuances of mental decline or the bigger picture of whether Trump is fit to serve as president. And the Montreal screening is hardly the sort of test that identifies how clever one is, or how much wisdom one has, of the sort that might come in handy in managing, well, just about anything a president has to mange.

But the test (which is no longer easily available online for copyright reasons, but described in detail at VeryWellHealth and with a partial image at The Guardian) is meant for a specific objective: screening individuals for dementia or mild cognitive impairment. It consists of tasks such as drawing a clock face, naming animals based on line drawings, reciting a set of numbers forwards and backwards, listing as many words as you can think of that start with the letter “f,” and similar questions, for a total of 30 points, with 26 points required to “pass” the screening, and a lower cut-off differentiating between mild cognitive impairment and dementia itself.

And — folks, this is where I’ll take off the journalist hat for just a moment: I have watched someone take this test. To a cognitively unimpaired person, the questions seem trivial. But the individual that I watched take this screening could not answer questions that to an unimpaired person would seem obvious. These are not “trick questions”; it’s not an IQ test nor is it designed to ferret out nuances. But if a person really does have impairment, the test really will identify it.

Which means that, yes, if Biden’s gaffes and his outbursts are just “Biden being Biden,” then there should be an easy enough answer: Biden could take the screening test just as easily as Trump did, and just as easily pass it, and then everyone can just shut up about the issue — unless, that is, the claims of Republicans that he has been pushed and manipulated into this election against his own best interest, and he’d be better off having stayed in retirement, are actually well-founded.

But — to address the second question in my title — I’m not sure that it matters to voters, many of whom, near as I can tell, simply see Biden as a placeholder for a moderate Democrat and are willing to case their vote even knowing that his age alone creates a fair probability that he won’t finish out his term.



As always, you’re invited to comment at JaneTheActuary.com!



Follow me on Twitter. Check out my website.
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Not a lot of anything new in there, the pertinent point though is that it was yanked. They sometimes eat their own but usually just circle the wagons.

The money quote and what will inevitably lead to “Blue Collar Joe” carrying Michigan and Pennsylvania:

Quote: But — to address the second question in my title — I’m not sure that it matters to voters, many of whom, near as I can tell, simply see Biden as a placeholder for a moderate Democrat and are willing to case their vote even knowing that his age alone creates a fair probability that he won’t finish out his term.

#DrawThatClock

Quote:Which means that, yes, if Biden’s gaffes and his outbursts are just “Biden being Biden,” then there should be an easy enough answer: Biden could take the screening test just as easily as Trump did, and just as easily pass it, and then everyone can just shut up about the issue — unless, that is, the claims of Republicans that he has been pushed and manipulated into this election against his own best interest, and he’d be better off having stayed in retirement, are actually well-founded.

So I was curious to see what this Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test entailed, so I created an account on their official site and downloaded the test for myself.

Just in case anyone is curious, this is the entire test:

• Trace a line between alternating numbers and letters in their numerical and alphabetical order [ex. 1--->A---->2---->B----etc....] (1-pt)
• Draw a cube in 3-D (1-pt)
• Draw a clock show ten past eleven (3-pts)
• Name the animals shown [animals shown are tracings of a lion, a rhino, and a camel] (3-pts)
• Memorize the following words in order "Face, velvet, church, daisy, red"; Must be able to remember the words at the end of the test. (5-pts)
• Repeat the following digits in order "2...1...8...5...4" (1-pt)
• Repeat the following digits in reverse order "7...4...2" (1-pt)
• As a series of letters is read out loud, tap the desk every time the letter "A" comes up (1-pt)
• Serial 7 subtraction starting at 100 [ex. 100....93....79...etc...] stopping after the 5th iteration [65] (3-pts)
• Repeat the phrase "I only know that John is the one to help today" (1-pt)
• Repeat the phrase "The cat always hid under the couch when dogs were in the room. (1-pt)
• Within one minute, name 11 words or more that start with the letter "F" (1-pt)
• Find the similarity between two abstract objects: train-bicycle; watch-ruler [for example, if banana-orange = fruit] (2-pts)
• Name the current date, month, year, day, place, and city you are in (6-pts)
  

If you score greater than 26 out of 30 points, then you are considered normal.

I'd have absolutely no problem with Joe taking this test.

(03-11-2020 11:03 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

Quote:Which means that, yes, if Biden’s gaffes and his outbursts are just “Biden being Biden,” then there should be an easy enough answer: Biden could take the screening test just as easily as Trump did, and just as easily pass it, and then everyone can just shut up about the issue — unless, that is, the claims of Republicans that he has been pushed and manipulated into this election against his own best interest, and he’d be better off having stayed in retirement, are actually well-founded.

So I was curious to see what this Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test entailed, so I created an account on their official site and downloaded the test for myself.

Just in case anyone is curious, this is the entire test:

• Trace a line between alternating numbers and letters in their numerical and alphabetical order [ex. 1--->A---->2---->B----etc....] (1-pt)
• Draw a cube in 3-D (1-pt)
• Draw a clock show ten past eleven (3-pts)
• Name the animals shown [animals shown are tracings of a lion, a rhino, and a camel] (3-pts)
• Memorize the following words in order "Face, velvet, church, daisy, red"; Must be able to remember the words at the end of the test. (5-pts)
• Repeat the following digits in order "2...1...8...5...4" (1-pt)
• Repeat the following digits in reverse order "7...4...2" (1-pt)
• As a series of letters is read out loud, tap the desk every time the letter "A" comes up (1-pt)
• Serial 7 subtraction starting at 100 [ex. 100....93....79...etc...] stopping after the 5th iteration [65] (3-pts)
• Repeat the phrase "I only know that John is the one to help today" (1-pt)
• Repeat the phrase "The cat always hid under the couch when dogs were in the room. (1-pt)
• Within one minute, name 11 words or more that start with the letter "F" (1-pt)
• Find the similarity between two abstract objects: train-bicycle; watch-ruler [for example, if banana-orange = fruit] (2-pts)
• Name the current date, month, year, day, place, and city you are in (6-pts)
  

If you score greater than 26 out of 30 points, then you are considered normal.

I'd have absolutely no problem with Joe taking this test.

I think 3 out of 30 would be a pretty solid score for Joe.

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

"...Biden’s supporters insist that the alarm at their candidate’s mental state is misplaced and that he is in fact ‘functioning at 100 percent’. The really alarming contingency is that they might be right."

(03-11-2020 10:19 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 10:13 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I grabbed the article. As the page loaded, I hit CTRL+A and then CTRL+C and it copied the entire thing.

Here's another article on the same topic (linked from the Forbes article): https://spectator.us/time-scrap-goldwater-rule/

Thank you for the tip!

Article basically stated that Biden should take the same mental capacity exam that Trump did as he may have cognitive impairment

Author also suggested that no one really cares about it because no one expects Biden to finish the term. He is a placeholder.

Who he picks as his VP will be very interesting

Its very relevant because if elected, he will be president until he dies or disentegrates totally. And he will be making decisions.

My mother-in-law had dementia and was in a nursing home for 7 years. So we spent a lot of time visiting and there were lots of people with dementia. Her sister had Alzheimer's we basically were her guardian. Also spent a good bit of time visiting my grandmother in her nursing home. My elderly parents have dementia in various stages (unlike Biden, they are quite aware of their limitations) as do a couple of my wife's aunts and uncles.

I've seen plenty of people with dementia and I am convinced Biden has dementia beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let this sink in...

There are going to be millions of people (including several on this forum) that will KNOWINGLY vote for someone with dementia simply because he has a "D" next to his name.

Next time any one of them says anything about "team over country"... point them to that.