It's a good win but I don't think they are in the NCAA tourney unless they have another big win to help even out the awful losses they also have. Court storming vs a not great Duke team is lame.

(02-20-2020 03:29 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Court storming vs a not great Duke team is lame.

Have to agree with you there. You want to be taken seriously, act like you've been there before.

(02-20-2020 04:34 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 03:29 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Court storming vs a not great Duke team is lame.

Have to agree with you there. You want to be taken seriously, act like you've been there before.

It's definitely their best win the past two seasons, and it's a good win. This isn't a great Duke team, but they're still ranked 6-7. There is a lot I dislike about State's fanbase, but storming the court is fine to me....a 20+ point win over a top 10 team on national TV...have fun kids.

The only thing lame about the post game was K's handshake with Keatts.

(02-21-2020 11:34 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:34 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 03:29 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Court storming vs a not great Duke team is lame.

Have to agree with you there. You want to be taken seriously, act like you've been there before.

It's definitely their best win the past two seasons, and it's a good win. This isn't a great Duke team, but they're still ranked 6-7. There is a lot I dislike about State's fanbase, but storming the court is fine to me....a 20+ point win over a top 10 team on national TV...have fun kids.

The only thing lame about the post game was K's handshake with Keatts.

State fans needed something to cheer about but it's not close to being a win of that caliber unless you have never won anything before. It was lame as hell and the handshake blowoff is classic Coach K at it's worst-lame as hell.

(02-21-2020 12:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  State fans needed something to cheer about but it's not close to being a win of that caliber unless you have never won anything before. It was lame as hell and the handshake blowoff is classic Coach K at it's worst-lame as hell.

In fairness to the students that rushed the floor, State really hasn't won anything in their life. These kids are 18-22 yo and their life they have been to the S16 three times and never beyond. The seniors in school have seen the team make the tournament once as a 9 seed and they lost in the first round.

I don't think they should rush the floor, but these kids aren't pacified because the basketball team had success when their parents were kids. Personally, I can't ridicule them for the past forty years and then mock them for being excited at (even the slightest hint of) success.

Agree on Coach K. I can't understand why he gets a pass when he's a constant ass.

I missed all of this, it's been a busy week.

So to help me recap...

1. State beat Duke by 20+
2. State fans stormed the court in the regular season against a conference opponent
3. Coach K refused to shake hands with Coach Keatts

Out of the three of those, #1 is surprising. Number 2 is funny. Number 3, I have questions before I rush to judgment. Was there bad blood during the game? What caused K to not shake with Keatts? I'm not at all ruling out the fact that K is just being his normal ass, and I agree that it's annoying he gets a pass for being a pompous POS whenever things don't go his way. This is just more ammo to the fact the dude is losing it, can't act like an adult sometimes, and should consider retirement.

(02-21-2020 02:17 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I missed all of this, it's been a busy week.

So to help me recap...

1. State beat Duke by 20+
2. State fans stormed the court in the regular season against a conference opponent
3. Coach K refused to shake hands with Coach Keatts

Out of the three of those, #1 is surprising. Number 2 is funny. Number 3, I have questions before I rush to judgment. Was there bad blood during the game? What caused K to not shake with Keatts? I'm not at all ruling out the fact that K is just being his normal ass, and I agree that it's annoying he gets a pass for being a pompous POS whenever things don't go his way. This is just more ammo to the fact the dude is losing it, can't act like an adult sometimes, and should consider retirement.

He shook his hand but refused to engage when Keatts tried. It was similar to what he’s done in other losses. The aggravation for me is how interested he is in having conversations after victories, and his patronizing pat on the chest as he speaks down to the opposing coach.

(02-21-2020 02:17 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I missed all of this, it's been a busy week.

So to help me recap...

1. State beat Duke by 20+
2. State fans stormed the court in the regular season against a conference opponent
3. Coach K refused to shake hands with Coach Keatts

Out of the three of those, #1 is surprising. Number 2 is funny. Number 3, I have questions before I rush to judgment. Was there bad blood during the game? What caused K to not shake with Keatts? I'm not at all ruling out the fact that K is just being his normal ass, and I agree that it's annoying he gets a pass for being a pompous POS whenever things don't go his way. This is just more ammo to the fact the dude is losing it, can't act like an adult sometimes, and should consider retirement.

I haven't watched close enough to pass judgement, but i have a few Duke fans that are good friends and they think he's losing his edge. And his strong in game management seems to be a thing of the past according to them.

It is pretty Bush to blow off a meaningful handshake just as it's Bush for an ACC school to rush the floor for a regular season game.(might have given them a pass if Duke was like 25-0 and #1, but still questionable IMO.) State fans constantly want to be included in conversations with the UNCs and Duke's of the world, how about acting like you've been there. That would be a first step......

Bricks- Not sure if you saw my post about Anthony above, what are your thoughts on his D(or lack thereof)

(02-21-2020 02:59 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Bricks- Not sure if you saw my post about Anthony above, what are your thoughts on his D(or lack thereof)

He's not a great defender, but it hasn't been a huge frustration this year. It seems like Carolina has been hurt a lot by some high picks, but that isn't on Cole. I'll play closer attention to him.

(02-21-2020 04:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 02:59 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Bricks- Not sure if you saw my post about Anthony above, what are your thoughts on his D(or lack thereof)

He's not a great defender, but it hasn't been a huge frustration this year. It seems like Carolina has been hurt a lot by some high picks, but that isn't on Cole. I'll play closer attention to him.

What i saw in that ND game was no interest in getting back, and getting completely dusted off the dribble up top with little effort to recover. I knew he was a gifted offensive player, but i never much paid attention to the D until the other night.

Florida State trailed by 12 in the second half and were down 55-47 when they went on a 15-0 run. They took their first lead with 9:36 left and pulled away winning 82-67 hosting Louisville. FSU won by 13 at Louisville and 15 hosting Louisville. They're the top ACC team in both polls and took a 0.5 game lead over Duke. Duke has 1 fewer win and will tie FSU by winning out. Duke would win the tiebreaker because they won 70-65 hosting FSU last week and don't go to FSU. Duke should win at Wake Forest. Then they play bubble teams at Virginia and hosting NC State before ending hosting UNC. They host UNC at 6:00 P.M. on Saturday March 7, while FSU plays at 4:30 P.M. Therefore if FSU and Duke win their next 3 including FSU on March 7, or have the same record in their next 3 and stay ahead of Louisville, UNC at Duke will determine the 1 seed after FSU is done. I hate Duke. I don't root for UNC, but I root for them against Duke, and even more if beating Duke would give FSU the regular season title. FSU has finished at least 2 games behind the ACC regular season title every season, albeit they did win an ACC Tournament.

FSU is definitely a strong team, likely the strongest FSU ever (especially on the offensive end). Louisville seems to be going the wrong way headed into March. I would not be upset to see a different team atop the ACC than the normal Duke/UNC.

(02-25-2020 09:35 AM)dan10 Wrote:  FSU is definitely a strong team, likely the strongest FSU ever (especially on the offensive end). Louisville seems to be going the wrong way headed into March. I would not be upset to see a different team atop the ACC than the normal Duke/UNC.

They are really really good. I got to check them out in person end of December when i was in Tallahassee for a wedding.

What are the chances that FSU gets a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament? If they tie with Duke in the regular season, FSU will have to win the ACC tournament (in Greensboro) for a chance. If they tie and neither Duke or FSU win the ACCT, than Duke will get a favorable seed in the NCAA tournament. I'd like to see FSU take a step this year; this year seems like the perfect year to do so with no dominant team. I'm skeptical of FSU in the tournament, but they were really close to a Final Four in 2018.

Duke's toughest game will be at UVA this Saturday. That seems to be their only real chance of slipping again.

Baylor and KU have number 1 seeds all but locked in it seems. Gonzaga is a strong bet for the third top seed, and Maryland, Dayton, Duke and FSU are fighting for the fourth. I'm not a bracketologist, and I know that the committee absolutely doesn't look at it like this, but it seems to be shaping up for a pairing of Duke and Maryland in the South or East so that they would meet in the Elite 8 (with KU in the Midwest, Baylor in the West, Zags in the South with FSU).

SDSU has to be in consideration. I agree with their lone loss the other day it opens up the possibility but the top 4 seeds still seem clear with Baylor, Kansas, Gonzaga and SDSU. Duke, FSU, Dayton are clear 2's. I think Maryland may fall to a 3

(02-25-2020 11:17 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  What are the chances that FSU gets a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament? If they tie with Duke in the regular season, FSU will have to win the ACC tournament (in Greensboro) for a chance. If they tie and neither Duke or FSU win the ACCT, than Duke will get a favorable seed in the NCAA tournament. I'd like to see FSU take a step this year; this year seems like the perfect year to do so with no dominant team. I'm skeptical of FSU in the tournament, but they were really close to a Final Four in 2018.

Duke's toughest game will be at UVA this Saturday. That seems to be their only real chance of slipping again.

Baylor and KU have number 1 seeds all but locked in it seems. Gonzaga is a strong bet for the third top seed, and Maryland, Dayton, Duke and FSU are fighting for the fourth. I'm not a bracketologist, and I know that the committee absolutely doesn't look at it like this, but it seems to be shaping up for a pairing of Duke and Maryland in the South or East so that they would meet in the Elite 8 (with KU in the Midwest, Baylor in the West, Zags in the South with FSU).

Did you watch any of the KU- Baylor game Saturday? Flat our ugly at times. Was a slug fest. Interesting with Dayton, i had not really looked into them much. Looking at their schedule, they played 2 ranked teams and lost to both. While They have won all their conf games, they have played some close games. I'd think for them to be considered for 1 they would have to run the table as any loss would be a big blow to their RPI.

I stand corrected, surprised Dayton RPI is currently #2. A-10 is much stronger than i would have imagined. with 6 teams in the top 60 RPI

(02-25-2020 11:21 AM)dan10 Wrote:  SDSU has to be in consideration. I agree with their lone loss the other day it opens up the possibility but the top 4 seeds still seem clear with Baylor, Kansas, Gonzaga and SDSU. Duke, FSU, Dayton are clear 2's. I think Maryland may fall to a 3

Agree that they are in consideration, but they have a really thin margin for error. I feel like the committee will look for a reason to give them a 2 seed.

(02-25-2020 11:26 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Did you watch any of the KU- Baylor game Saturday? Flat our ugly at times. Was a slug fest. Interesting with Dayton, i had not really looked into them much. Looking at their schedule, they played 2 ranked teams and lost to both. While They have won all their conf games, they have played some close games. I'd think for them to be considered for 1 they would have to run the table as any loss would be a big blow to their RPI.

I caught some early second half action, but wasn't able to watch closely. If Dayton wins out they'll have a great argument for a top seed.

(02-25-2020 11:40 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 11:21 AM)dan10 Wrote:  SDSU has to be in consideration. I agree with their lone loss the other day it opens up the possibility but the top 4 seeds still seem clear with Baylor, Kansas, Gonzaga and SDSU. Duke, FSU, Dayton are clear 2's. I think Maryland may fall to a 3

Agree that they are in consideration, but they have a really thin margin for error. I feel like the committee will look for a reason to give them a 2 seed.

Craziest thing to me this year is seeing several relatively new to the scene names eyeing top seeds!