(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

(02-14-2020 09:27 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Harris is a terrible defender. Having him guard their best shooter late in the game was a mistake. He's fast enough to make up for his size. He clearly doesn't play hard on D.

I have watched him this year. He's much improved defensively over last year and he does play hard on defense. He still has the size issue to deal with.

I would love me some Antonio Burks right about now.

(02-13-2020 07:51 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:47 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  David was 5’4” beat Goliath’s arse

link?

1st Samuel 17:50
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

I did snicker when Doris Burke said Alex Lomax was 6'1"

(02-14-2020 10:55 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:51 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:47 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  David was 5’4” beat Goliath’s arse

link?

1st Samuel 17:50
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

I did snicker when Doris Burke said Alex Lomax was 6'1"

GTG lists him as 6'0".

(02-14-2020 10:55 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:51 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:47 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  David was 5’4” beat Goliath’s arse

link?

1st Samuel 17:50
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

I did snicker when Doris Burke said Alex Lomax was 6'1"

Yeah and what was really funny even with her calling him 6'1 she kept saying over and over and over "he is too small to be driving to the basket like he does" "he should not be driving to the basket like that"...

Somehow every person in the entire galaxy can see it except for Penny and Lomax. Of course Lomax thinks he is the better version of a cross between Micheal Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron. But Penny clearly can't be so blind.

But then he calls up the last play of regulation to do exactly what everyone on the entire planet knew not to do, especially Doris...

It is as bad as the play he called up with Maurice shooting a 3.. You are calling a last play with a 23% 3pt shooter shooting a 3...

That is what makes me question Penny's coaching ability. I know he is teaching in practice, I know he makes in-game adjustments. I know he is going to see incredible basketball players in the people who are close to him that are not good basketball players. He seems to be one of those people who see the best in everyone and some times that blinds him to the truth of who they really are.

Mugsy Bougus was 5 ft 8 and he played over 10 yrs in the NBA,
Wizards passed on karl malone to pick this Dude. Mugsy could steal, assist and Bust a Deep Ball.
Tiny Archibal had a decent game for a short Dude, I believe he even won the dunk contest, plus the Dude could Bust from anywhere on the court.

(02-14-2020 11:14 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Mugsy Bougus was 5 ft 8 and he played over 10 yrs in the NBA,
Wizards passed on karl malone to pick this Dude. Mugsy could steal, assist and Bust a Deep Ball.
Tiny Archibal had a decent game for a short Dude, I believe he even won the dunk contest, plus the Dude could Bust from anywhere on the court.

Lomax is not on that level. Those guys were exceptions.

(02-14-2020 11:14 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Mugsy Bougus was 5 ft 8 and he played over 10 yrs in the NBA,
Wizards passed on karl malone to pick this Dude. Mugsy could steal, assist and Bust a Deep Ball.
Tiny Archibal had a decent game for a short Dude, I believe he even won the dunk contest, plus the Dude could Bust from anywhere on the court.

This applies just about as much as the David/Goliath comparison.

You see a Mugsy on our court? I certainly don't.

(02-13-2020 11:39 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:51 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:47 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  David was 5’4” beat Goliath’s arse

link?

https://www.bible.com/bible/1/1SA.17.KJV

(02-14-2020 10:55 AM)UofMark Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:51 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:47 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  David was 5’4” beat Goliath’s arse

link?

1st Samuel 17:50
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

I did snicker when Doris Burke said Alex Lomax was 6'1"

Amen

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

Yeah that was 100% on Penny. Penny called the play.

Sure wish we had an assistant coach that could have stepped in and put a stop to it.

"Uh, Penny, the guy has 4 pts, he can't shoot, he gets lost in his drives, he tries to do way too much, and ends up tossing the ball up and hitting the bottom of the rim. Why are you calling a play for him? Precious is on fire, Lester is on fire, Boogie has been driving to the basket with great floaters all night. why are you putting the ball in the hands of one of your least talented and worst shooting players?"

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

A Lo beat his man off the dribble. The defender made a good play by coming from behind and blocking it. The play call was fine and the execution was fine. Tip your cap to the defender for recovering quick enough to get back for the block.

(02-14-2020 11:50 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

Yeah that was 100% on Penny. Penny called the play.

Sure wish we had an assistant coach that could have stepped in and put a stop to it.

"Uh, Penny, the guy has 4 pts, he can't shoot, he gets lost in his drives, he tries to do way too much, and ends up tossing the ball up and hitting the bottom of the rim. Why are you calling a play for him? Precious is on fire, Lester is on fire, Boogie has been driving to the basket with great floaters all night. why are you putting the ball in the hands of one of your least talented and worst shooting players?"

That scenario isn't for an assistant coach. Do you think any head coach is going to call a play in the last 10 seconds and then an assistant says, "hold up coach, that's not a good idea, let's run another play".

The head coach has to have enough leadership, preparedness, intellect, and instinct, to know what play(s) that he'd call in that scenario, well before they happen.

Do we need an assistant for some other aspects? Maybe. But, the situation at the end of the game last night is why you pay a guy millions of dollars to run your program.

(02-14-2020 12:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

A Lo beat his man off the dribble. The defender made a good play by coming from behind and blocking it. The play call was fine and the execution was fine. Tip your cap to the defender for recovering quick enough to get back for the block.

Running an iso for a 5-7 guy that is not a great scorer is about the weakest play you could call in that scenario. And no, he didn't beat his man. If he would have, he would have AT LEAST gotten the shot on the rim.

(02-14-2020 12:12 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 11:50 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

Yeah that was 100% on Penny. Penny called the play.

Sure wish we had an assistant coach that could have stepped in and put a stop to it.

"Uh, Penny, the guy has 4 pts, he can't shoot, he gets lost in his drives, he tries to do way too much, and ends up tossing the ball up and hitting the bottom of the rim. Why are you calling a play for him? Precious is on fire, Lester is on fire, Boogie has been driving to the basket with great floaters all night. why are you putting the ball in the hands of one of your least talented and worst shooting players?"

That scenario isn't for an assistant coach. Do you think any head coach is going to call a play in the last 10 seconds and then an assistant says, "hold up coach, that's not a good idea, let's run another play".

The head coach has to have enough leadership, preparedness, intellect, and instinct, to know what play(s) that he'd call in that scenario, well before they happen.

Do we need an assistant for some other aspects? Maybe. But, the situation at the end of the game last night is why you pay a guy millions of dollars to run your program.

Sure it is, that is why people constantly say hire an X and O coach.. not that I agree with them, but yeah someone has to step in when Penny is doing dumb things like setting up ALo for ISO to win a game, or setting up Isaiah Maurice for a 3pt shot to win a game.

SOMEONE has to... otherwise we will continue to see Penny put all of his marbles in the hands of a center shooting 3s and a little bitty pg trying to drive against the bigs.

(02-14-2020 12:23 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 12:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

A Lo beat his man off the dribble. The defender made a good play by coming from behind and blocking it. The play call was fine and the execution was fine. Tip your cap to the defender for recovering quick enough to get back for the block.

Running an iso for a 5-7 guy that is not a great scorer is about the weakest play you could call in that scenario. And no, he didn't beat his man. If he would have, he would have AT LEAST gotten the shot on the rim.

Would you idiots quit with the 5'7" crap. Not sure why it's cool to completely debase a player because he missed a shot.

(02-14-2020 12:30 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 12:23 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 12:12 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:38 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 09:25 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  Lomax played incredible in the 2nd half. His only bad play was the last play of the regulation. If he had only pulled up with a floater, like he did a few plays before, the game would have been over.

The last play is not on Alo. With over 10 seconds left and the "play" the coach calls in the timeout is for your 5-7 guard to simply go "iso" and drive to the basket? Heck, I don't even think we set a screen for him? I'll have to look at the play again, but I don't think so.

A Lo beat his man off the dribble. The defender made a good play by coming from behind and blocking it. The play call was fine and the execution was fine. Tip your cap to the defender for recovering quick enough to get back for the block.

Running an iso for a 5-7 guy that is not a great scorer is about the weakest play you could call in that scenario. And no, he didn't beat his man. If he would have, he would have AT LEAST gotten the shot on the rim.

Would you idiots quit with the 5'7" crap. Not sure why it's cool to completely debase a player because he missed a shot.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Nobody is debasing anyone (I'm certianly not). Alo is about 5-7. You do realize that pretty much every single basketball height (in college) is exaggerated by 2-3 inches, right? Especially guys under 6-0.

Like I said...this is NOT on Alo. At all. I like the kid and the way he plays. My only point is running that play, at that time, for him, was turrible.

(02-13-2020 10:00 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 07:36 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  I am just not a believer.... sorry.

You aren’t the only one. We need more Antonio Andersons and CDRs. Talented guys with size and length.

Absolutely. Tigers guards were 6'3-6'6-6'7 with Mack off the bench at 6'5. We may never see another team like that. As CDR reminded us at the end of the NC game. Alo and Tyler have their specialty's and strong points. Both will be remembered as great Tiger players before their careers are through.

I would believe 5'9 anything taller than that would have to be proven with a tape measure. Harris probably really is 5'7.

(02-14-2020 11:22 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(02-14-2020 11:14 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Mugsy Bougus was 5 ft 8 and he played over 10 yrs in the NBA,
Wizards passed on karl malone to pick this Dude. Mugsy could steal, assist and Bust a Deep Ball.
Tiny Archibal had a decent game for a short Dude, I believe he even won the dunk contest, plus the Dude could Bust from anywhere on the court.

This applies just about as much as the David/Goliath comparison.

You see a Mugsy on our court? I certainly don't.

We dont know yet. Alo is only going to get better.