(02-10-2020 02:03 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:15 AM)tiger ron Wrote:  You guys are crazy. We were down to just 7 healthy players at the end of the game. All were guards except Maurice. Precious was in foul trouble early. We are not the team we started the season with so the expectations should not be the same. You can tell Penny is a good coach because of our defense. The offense was built around Wiseman so it is late coming around - and then DJ got hurt and we are now guard oriented. Depending on guard play is only as good as your shooters.

The problem with this is that we did not lose the game at the end. We actually played our best ball of the game the final 5 minutes. We lost the game in the first 35 minutes when we had Precious and Lance.

And I do think most people have shifted expectations dramatically but we still have the talent to be a tournament team and we just had South Florida kick that dream into a grave. That is genesis of most of the frustration. We not only lost the game but also the NCAA tournament hopes and it was at the hands to 10-12 South Florida.

Precious was out with foul trouble for much of the game.

(02-10-2020 10:27 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:18 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Somebody call it

The best thing that could happen would be for Penny to save face by stepping down at the end of the season. Clearly, he wasn't ready for the jump from high school and AAU to major college basketball. If he had sat the bench as an assistant under an established coach for a few years, things might have been different. But he's too green and this is no place for him to learn the job.

Crawl back under the rock you came from.

(02-10-2020 11:34 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:27 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:18 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Somebody call it

The best thing that could happen would be for Penny to save face by stepping down at the end of the season. Clearly, he wasn't ready for the jump from high school and AAU to major college basketball. If he had sat the bench as an assistant under an established coach for a few years, things might have been different. But he's too green and this is no place for him to learn the job.

Crawl back under the rock you came from.

You like blowing games at home to 11-12 teams? Or 40 point blowouts on the road?

(02-10-2020 11:05 PM)finch vanilla Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:03 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:15 AM)tiger ron Wrote:  You guys are crazy. We were down to just 7 healthy players at the end of the game. All were guards except Maurice. Precious was in foul trouble early. We are not the team we started the season with so the expectations should not be the same. You can tell Penny is a good coach because of our defense. The offense was built around Wiseman so it is late coming around - and then DJ got hurt and we are now guard oriented. Depending on guard play is only as good as your shooters.

The problem with this is that we did not lose the game at the end. We actually played our best ball of the game the final 5 minutes. We lost the game in the first 35 minutes when we had Precious and Lance.

And I do think most people have shifted expectations dramatically but we still have the talent to be a tournament team and we just had South Florida kick that dream into a grave. That is genesis of most of the frustration. We not only lost the game but also the NCAA tournament hopes and it was at the hands to 10-12 South Florida.

Precious was out with foul trouble for much of the game.

Precious played 18 of a possible 35 mins before he got hurt. That’s not missing much of the game with foul trouble IMO. Heck we had the lead at the half with Precious missing more than half of the first 20 mins. We unfortunately let USF build a 9 point lead with a full rotation available for the game.

All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

Not just this board, I've heard it on the radio and in comments on other forums. No one is above criticism, but to me, and it's just my opinion, some are unreasonable and reactionary and over the top crazy.

(02-11-2020 10:42 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

Not just this board, I've heard it on the radio and in comments on other forums. No one is above criticism, but to me, and it's just my opinion, some are unreasonable and reactionary and over the top crazy.

There are radio show hosts calling for Penny to be fired??? Can you list who?

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

I think you guys are talking about CPH instead of CJP.

(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 10:42 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

Not just this board, I've heard it on the radio and in comments on other forums. No one is above criticism, but to me, and it's just my opinion, some are unreasonable and reactionary and over the top crazy.

There are radio show hosts calling for Penny to be fired??? Can you list who?

Nobody here is calling for Penny Hardaways head. Well, PATiger maybe but his is trolling. Don't think TOGC is still here.

I doubt any real radio hosts are. Penny needs some help on staff imo but we shall see.

I think it's just been a perfect storm of gut punches and bad luck with this group. I always felt the expectations were set too high, even before JW bailed. Injury, illness, etc. One thing after another. I want to see how we close, but I still believe in Penny 100%.

I'm not talking about radio host, I'm talking about FANS, I've heard a few saying that he needs to be fired.

(02-11-2020 03:27 PM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  I'm not talking about radio host, I'm talking about FANS, I've heard a few saying that he needs to be fired.

You are hanging with the wrong crowd then...time to ditch them

(02-11-2020 01:56 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 10:42 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 08:57 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  All of you that are calling for CJP head, or wanting him to fire someone or whatever, thank you for showing why NO COACH, or player should display loyalty to this or any school. This season hasn't gone as well as we all hoped but the venom that's coming from you is uncalled for. A team of underclassmen and the majority bring freshmen, you should be ashamed, but I know you aren't. If I was in CJP, Coach Miller or anyone on staff, if a better opportunity presents itself I say bounce.

You guys are helping to give opposing coaches all the ammo they need, they can say that the fanbase has turned on him already. I guess you don't recall the Ol Miss guy that was on the radio prior to the season starting, I'm guessing the J & J show, saying that everyone outside of Memphis was hoping that coach would fall on his face this season. Here we are his city, he stayed home and played for this school, not wanting to give him a chance, shame on us as a fanbase.

Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

Not just this board, I've heard it on the radio and in comments on other forums. No one is above criticism, but to me, and it's just my opinion, some are unreasonable and reactionary and over the top crazy.

There are radio show hosts calling for Penny to be fired??? Can you list who?

Nobody here is calling for Penny Hardaways head. Well, PATiger maybe but his is trolling. Don't think TOGC is still here.

I doubt any real radio hosts are. Penny needs some help on staff imo but we shall see.

The consensus on Twitter is that Penny needs to go. This is the only place that still wants to keep him.

(02-08-2020 08:01 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:35 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  We have no options because we are still paying two coaches $1.5M.

The Tubby hire set this program back 10 years.

As much as I despised Tubby, he would have had us in the Tournament this year.

With what players? No one from the city of Memphis .Tubby sucked. Period and we would be paying Grizzles money again because not enough people went to games to watch what he put on the floor.

(02-11-2020 02:14 PM)Hoots Wrote:  I think it's just been a perfect storm of gut punches and bad luck with this group. I always felt the expectations were set too high, even before JW bailed. Injury, illness, etc. One thing after another. I want to see how we close, but I still believe in Penny 100%.

Amen

(02-11-2020 11:33 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:01 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:35 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  We have no options because we are still paying two coaches $1.5M.

The Tubby hire set this program back 10 years.

As much as I despised Tubby, he would have had us in the Tournament this year.

With what players? No one from the city of Memphis .Tubby sucked. Period and we would be paying Grizzles money again because not enough people went to games to watch what he put on the floor.

Last year, Penny won with a team that was mostly made up of Tubby's players.

This year, the team is entirely his.

Last year's team was better.

(02-11-2020 11:11 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 01:56 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 10:42 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 09:48 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  Dude...how many are calling for CJP head? Feel free to list them here. I doubt you can get past 2-3 from this board.

Not just this board, I've heard it on the radio and in comments on other forums. No one is above criticism, but to me, and it's just my opinion, some are unreasonable and reactionary and over the top crazy.

There are radio show hosts calling for Penny to be fired??? Can you list who?

Nobody here is calling for Penny Hardaways head. Well, PATiger maybe but his is trolling. Don't think TOGC is still here.

I doubt any real radio hosts are. Penny needs some help on staff imo but we shall see.

The consensus on Twitter is that Penny needs to go. This is the only place that still wants to keep him.

The consensus on Twitter... I am sure you and your two buddies feel that way but the other 99% of the fan base do not feel that way.

(02-11-2020 11:56 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 11:33 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:01 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:35 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  We have no options because we are still paying two coaches $1.5M.

The Tubby hire set this program back 10 years.

As much as I despised Tubby, he would have had us in the Tournament this year.

With what players? No one from the city of Memphis .Tubby sucked. Period and we would be paying Grizzles money again because not enough people went to games to watch what he put on the floor.

Last year, Penny won with a team that was mostly made up of Tubby's players.

This year, the team is entirely his.

Last year's team was better.

We see you trollin', we hatin'

(02-11-2020 11:56 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 11:33 PM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:01 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 06:35 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  We have no options because we are still paying two coaches $1.5M.

The Tubby hire set this program back 10 years.

As much as I despised Tubby, he would have had us in the Tournament this year.

With what players? No one from the city of Memphis .Tubby sucked. Period and we would be paying Grizzles money again because not enough people went to games to watch what he put on the floor.

Last year, Penny won with a team that was mostly made up of Tubby's players.

This year, the team is entirely his.

Last year's team was better.

Coach had a team of upperclassmen and J. Martin was the focal point. Compare J. Martin from his freshman year to his senior year, our guys now may be more naturally talented but they are a year away. We have to be fair and give them time.