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Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn
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(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."
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(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).
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(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).

As opposed to Alabama:

USC - #30
Kent - #81
Georgia State - #99
FCS UT-M - #35 FCS (so likely around #140-150

Since Michigan plays a 9-game B1G schedule, you need to look at the Non-P5 portion of Alabama - far worse than Michigan

Or Check out LSU

#118 Rice
#122 UTSA
FCS Nicholls State

With Texas (good, maybe) as the other P5 game.
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(01-30-2020 06:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
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(01-30-2020 01:26 PM)usffan Wrote:  

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Nice, UNC's a great get for a series. Should try to get Wake on the phone as well.


As UNC football continues its evolution under Mack Brown, the best future non-conference games (even those six years from now) might just be those in the EST time zone against programs the Heels can beat and that involve schools that carry overall academic and athletic prestige (which UConn clearly does).

As a Tar Heel fan, I'm pleased to hear this.

Thanks for the compliment.
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(01-30-2020 08:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As opposed to Alabama:

USC - #30
Kent - #81
Georgia State - #99
FCS UT-M - #35 FCS (so likely around #140-150

Since Michigan plays a 9-game B1G schedule, you need to look at the Non-P5 portion of Alabama - far worse than Michigan

This is a point. Take an SEC school with a 10 P5, 1 Go5, 1FCS schedule, which is to say Georgia or Florida, they might have a talking point.

South Carolina, Tennessee*, Bama, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, with 9P5, 2Go5, 1FCS schedules in 2022, not so much.

That School Up North wins The Game in 2022, wins their division and the CCG, unless they have blotted their copy book by losing to one of those Go5 schools, I don't think it hurt their chances all that much at all.
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(01-30-2020 06:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 02:30 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:26 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

Nice, UNC's a great get for a series. Should try to get Wake on the phone as well.


As UNC football continues its evolution under Mack Brown, the best future non-conference games (even those six years from now) might just be those in the EST time zone against programs the Heels can beat and that involve schools that carry overall academic and athletic prestige (which UConn clearly does).

As a Tar Heel fan, I'm pleased to hear this.

This is a real head scratcher.
Why play UConn, unless they are coming really cheap?
Just more proof that Bubba Cunningham doesn't know what he is doing. Our athletic department continues to devolve under Cunningham's "leadership"!
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(01-31-2020 07:34 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 08:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  As opposed to Alabama:

USC - #30
Kent - #81
Georgia State - #99
FCS UT-M - #35 FCS (so likely around #140-150

Since Michigan plays a 9-game B1G schedule, you need to look at the Non-P5 portion of Alabama - far worse than Michigan

This is a point. Take an SEC school with a 10 P5, 1 Go5, 1FCS schedule, which is to say Georgia or Florida, they might have a talking point.

South Carolina, Tennessee*, Bama, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, with 9P5, 2Go5, 1FCS schedules in 2022, not so much.

That School Up North wins The Game in 2022, wins their division and the CCG, unless they have blotted their copy book by losing to one of those Go5 schools, I don't think it hurt their chances all that much at all.
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I don't know. Ohio St a few years ago won the Big Ten and got shut out.... If the Big Ten is down in general, Michigan would be wise to not leave it in the hands of the committee...

And like it or not, the OOC SOS is viewed as a seperate category. So Michigan with that crap would be compared to Alabama playing that year @ Texas. Georgia with Oregon and Ga Tech. Etc.
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(01-30-2020 08:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).

As opposed to Alabama:

USC - #30
Kent - #81
Georgia State - #99
FCS UT-M - #35 FCS (so likely around #140-150

Since Michigan plays a 9-game B1G schedule, you need to look at the Non-P5 portion of Alabama - far worse than Michigan

Or Check out LSU

#118 Rice
#122 UTSA
FCS Nicholls State

With Texas (good, maybe) as the other P5 game.

I think the point is that Michigan's OOC schedule is just as bad as Alabama's (I wouldn't call 81, 99 and 150 "far worse than" 46, 110 and 125 - they're both pathetic, especially when you consider there's no way Hawaii stays at 46).

Playing 2 (or 3!) buy games every year is horrible for the sport - but no one seems willing or able to do anything about it (yet).
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(01-31-2020 08:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 02:30 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:26 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

Nice, UNC's a great get for a series. Should try to get Wake on the phone as well.


As UNC football continues its evolution under Mack Brown, the best future non-conference games (even those six years from now) might just be those in the EST time zone against programs the Heels can beat and that involve schools that carry overall academic and athletic prestige (which UConn clearly does).

As a Tar Heel fan, I'm pleased to hear this.

This is a real head scratcher.
Why play UConn, unless they are coming really cheap?
Just more proof that Bubba Cunningham doesn't know what he is doing. Our athletic department continues to devolve under Cunningham's "leadership"!



North Carolina and UConn going to the Big 10.. in 2026... ?
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(01-31-2020 08:45 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I think the point is that Michigan's OOC schedule is just as bad as Alabama's (I wouldn't call 81, 99 and 150 "far worse than" 46, 110 and 125 - they're both pathetic, especially when you consider there's no way Hawaii stays at 46).

Playing 2 (or 3!) buy games every year is horrible for the sport - but no one seems willing or able to do anything about it (yet).

And that's the point. If That School Up North was "punished" for that kind of schedule alongside the large majority of the SEC, then sure, more schools would schedule like the Buckeyes, Bulldogs and Gators.

But it won't be. If a "recovered" TSUN team won it's way through to the Big Ten championship, including beating the Buckeyes in Columbus, it's not going to have the committee looking for arbitrary excuses to lock them out.
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(01-31-2020 09:37 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(01-31-2020 08:45 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I think the point is that Michigan's OOC schedule is just as bad as Alabama's (I wouldn't call 81, 99 and 150 "far worse than" 46, 110 and 125 - they're both pathetic, especially when you consider there's no way Hawaii stays at 46).

Playing 2 (or 3!) buy games every year is horrible for the sport - but no one seems willing or able to do anything about it (yet).

And that's the point. If That School Up North was "punished" for that kind of schedule alongside the large majority of the SEC, then sure, more schools would schedule like the Buckeyes, Bulldogs and Gators.

But it won't be. If a "recovered" TSUN team won it's way through to the Big Ten championship, including beating the Buckeyes in Columbus, it's not going to have the committee looking for arbitrary excuses to lock them out.

The problem is that you are taking out the top game from the SEC team. Which they absolutely don't do. Alabama will have USC in there this year. In 2022, while Michigan is playing the crap, Alabama plays @ Texas. Huge difference in perception there.....

Big Ten has absolutely had a 1 loss champion left out of the playoff before- Penn St in 2016.
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(01-31-2020 08:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 02:30 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 01:26 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

Nice, UNC's a great get for a series. Should try to get Wake on the phone as well.


As UNC football continues its evolution under Mack Brown, the best future non-conference games (even those six years from now) might just be those in the EST time zone against programs the Heels can beat and that involve schools that carry overall academic and athletic prestige (which UConn clearly does).

As a Tar Heel fan, I'm pleased to hear this.

This is a real head scratcher.
Why play UConn, unless they are coming really cheap?
Just more proof that Bubba Cunningham doesn't know what he is doing. Our athletic department continues to devolve under Cunningham's "leadership"!


The thinking might be that UConn will be improved by then — so a win will be solid and a loss will not be as bad as if were it to happen this season.

Plus, there may be some scheduling of games in other sports between the two schools that could be spurred by this. I don't know.

I'm fine with it.
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(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).


That was this year. By 2026 ... who knows. Hawaii and CSU have been known to have quality teams. And UConn could improve. Three name universities (as opposed to various Sun Belt and MAC programs).

To say "questionable" or "potentially bad," ... I can see that.

But to flat-out say "horrible"???
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Boy, looking back and reading the guaranteed prophecies by a few here that UConn Football could not be sustained as an independent and that their exit would be a death sentence is pure comedy. So many missed the boat on that one.
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(01-31-2020 10:01 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).


That was this year. By 2026 ... who knows. Hawaii and CSU have been known to have quality teams. And UConn could improve. Three name universities (as opposed to various Sun Belt and MAC programs).

To say "questionable" or "potentially bad," ... I can see that.

But to flat-out say "horrible"???

Well, arguably anyone can improve over a 2-3 year period. However, by that logic nobody would ever be able to criticize or compliment a team's future schedule. That being said, if you go by track record over a period of time UConn has been one of the worst FBS programs in the country for several years and CSU (despite always touted as supposedly having a ton of potential) has had fewer than 4 wins in a season 10 out of the 20 years. Odds are there is a good chance these schools will suck when Michigan plays them. However, you are correct there is an off chance Big Blue catches them in an up year.
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(01-31-2020 10:01 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).


That was this year. By 2026 ... who knows. Hawaii and CSU have been known to have quality teams. And UConn could improve. Three name universities (as opposed to various Sun Belt and MAC programs).

To say "questionable" or "potentially bad," ... I can see that.

But to flat-out say "horrible"???

The schedule is for 2022 and not 2026.

Odds are very high and likely that it's an absolute horrible schedule. Far more likely than it being even a bad schedule.
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(01-31-2020 10:09 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Boy, looking back and reading the guaranteed prophecies by a few here that UConn Football could not be sustained as an independent and that their exit would be a death sentence is pure comedy. So many missed the boat on that one.
I have admitted my surprise at how things are going so far. But I still think UConn will not be playing as an FBS Independent for more than 5-6 years, max. Whatever they’re doing by (say) 2026, it won’t be that.
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Rumor from UConn Rivals that Cuse is going to do a 2 for 1 with UConn

The stickler surely is how much they pay UConn for the extra home game. It is close enough that UConn can bus the team.
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(01-31-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
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(01-30-2020 08:07 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(01-30-2020 06:32 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Michigan with the horrible 2022 schedule-
Colorado St, Hawaii, UConn

S20, I agree with your points about 95 percent of the time. But I disagree with this one.

The Michigan non-league sked with this trio is very solid on various levels. I don't even remotely feel it's "horrible."

This past year Hawaii was #46
Colorado St was #110
UConn was #125

That's 100% horrible. Kind of schedule that if it's close for them making the playoff that absolutely could keep them out of the playoff. Better hope Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois are good(those are the crossover opponents this year).


That was this year. By 2026 ... who knows. Hawaii and CSU have been known to have quality teams. And UConn could improve. Three name universities (as opposed to various Sun Belt and MAC programs).

To say "questionable" or "potentially bad," ... I can see that.

But to flat-out say "horrible"???

The schedule is for 2022 and not 2026.

Odds are very high and likely that it's an absolute horrible schedule. Far more likely than it being even a bad schedule.


My bad. You are correct. It's 2022 for UConn and Michigan. McMurphy Tweets UConn and UNC in 2026. If accurate, that gives UConn some time to improve, which helps UNC.
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