So thought this would be fun. Will we see a move?

There will almost always be realignment among some of the 21 non FBS Division I conferences.

I dont think we will see anything in FBS. I'd like to see the AAC make a move to shore up the lost basketball inventory by adding VCU....but Im not sure there is enough support to use the hybrid strategy to fill the UConn slot at this time. Frankly, I think thats self limiting. I dont think adding a high quality non-football member now precludes adding a full all sports member later if the right candidate emerges. Having 12 or 13 members in olympic sports is not a big deal.

Horizon League adding a #12 seems like the best bet. Always keeping an eye on MVC/Murray St.

If nothing else, the AAC needs another women's lacrosse team to get back to 6 and the Big East now has one more affiliate than they need. I wonder if there winds up being an agreement on all sides for ODU, already an AAC affiliate for rowing, to swap over to the AAC. It'd give ODU's AD an additional reason to be on the phone with Aresco and in rooms with the AAC ADs if they're looking for spot #12.

If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

No

(01-15-2020 12:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I dont think we will see anything in FBS. I'd like to see the AAC make a move to shore up the lost basketball inventory by adding VCU....but Im not sure there is enough support to use the hybrid strategy to fill the UConn slot at this time. Frankly, I think thats self limiting. I dont think adding a high quality non-football member now precludes adding a full all sports member later if the right candidate emerges. Having 12 or 13 members in olympic sports is not a big deal.

Agree fully.

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

The geography might not be ideal, but to answer your question: yes.

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

not to mention geographically they would fit like an absolute glove.

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

(01-15-2020 01:39 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

there really isn't anything good for MWC at all.

(01-15-2020 01:39 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

We'll really need to improve our football to be at all close to this though.

Early returns on 1 of our coaching hires since the new AD came on are really good (Hockey). WBB is having a great year and that coaching hire seems to have paid off (but will need more time). MBB has the culture improved and the team is fun to watch again at least, but we need to win, so the jury is still out. Football is only 1 season in on the new coach and definitely not far enough in to see how that could work.

UMass won't be in a position to get into a football conference soon unless someone gets desperate.

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Dayton would be an even stronger add than VCU. But I'd be very surprised if Cincinnati would allow it.

(01-15-2020 01:53 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Dayton would be an even stronger add than VCU. But I'd be very surprised if Cincinnati would allow it.

They're close to 1 and 1a.

It would be interesting to watch with the A10 if 1 of them did leave.

(01-15-2020 01:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:39 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

there really isn't anything good for MWC at all.

That's what I thought. I'm trying to think is the MWC better off just looking for non football members or look for all sports members (football included) and drop Hawaii.
You have what for football
Big Sky teams (most can't make it fbs)
Dixie State (just moved to FCS)
New Mexico state (probably best option)

Non football adds
Utah valley
Seattle (not Gonzaga but a presence small as it is in Washington)
Denver (just a random thought not really sure)

(01-15-2020 01:57 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:39 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

there really isn't anything good for MWC at all.

That's what I thought. I'm trying to think is the MWC better off just looking for non football members or look for all sports members (football included) and drop Hawaii.
You have what for football
Big Sky teams (most can't make it fbs)
Dixie State (just moved to FCS)
New Mexico state (probably best option)

Non football adds
Utah valley
Seattle (not Gonzaga but a presence small as it is in Washington)
Denver (just a random thought not really sure)

I'm really surprised Montana has never made the move..

(01-15-2020 01:51 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:39 PM)46566 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 01:00 PM)megadrone Wrote:  If you don't consider football, does UMass fit the profile of an AAC school (in terms of number of sports offered, Athletic department budget, etc.)? Would they be a good addition for all sports other than football?

Why take them basketball only when they could get a program like VCU who is right now light years better?

Exactly. UMass basketball is kinda average---but VCU has built itself a fairly elite program and is therefor a much more attractive target.

UMass is a plus purely if the football team joins the AAC. It brings them up to 12 for all sports I think. The AAC wouldn't need to find a football only school.
On another note is there any good #12 for the MWC? Gonzaga got what they wanted from the WCC and didn't jump.

We'll really need to improve our football to be at all close to this though.

Early returns on 1 of our coaching hires since the new AD came on are really good (Hockey). WBB is having a great year and that coaching hire seems to have paid off (but will need more time). MBB has the culture improved and the team is fun to watch again at least, but we need to win, so the jury is still out. Football is only 1 season in on the new coach and definitely not far enough in to see how that could work.

UMass won't be in a position to get into a football conference soon unless someone gets desperate.

While football and s lagging behind but UConn football wasn't exactly a winning program at it's exit. The main question is the AAC a improvement from the A10. I honestly don't know the difference. I would think that the AAC would be interesting okay with a weak but improving football team and f the basketball teams could make up for it.