Pretty good deal for the MWC in my opinion. Did better on both exposure and pay than I thought they would. It also explains why FOX was interested. It appears FS-2 is going to be part of the package. Also, streaming is part of the deal as well with CBS-All Access. I would expect CBS to exercise the 10 game option for CBS-All Access games as it would be a great way to drive additional subscriptions.


https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/m..._Sheet.pdf

I believe Boise St. previous deal with ESPN was for $8mil a year. So, estimating their cut of the current deal being 11 or 12Mil seems reasonable.

(01-09-2020 06:35 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I believe Boise St. previous deal with ESPN was for $8mil a year. So, estimating their cut of the current deal being 11 or 12Mil seems reasonable.

no clue where you got those crazy numbers..their old deal was 3mil...they get 1.8mil more than the rest of the MWC...everyone else was getting 1.1mil

bise split isnt confirmed but most are estimating boise gets 5.6-5.8mil.

(01-09-2020 06:35 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I believe Boise St. previous deal with ESPN was for $8mil a year. So, estimating their cut of the current deal being 11 or 12Mil seems reasonable.

Pretty sure that was for the entire MW second tier package plus the Boise games (the MW got this inventory when they renegotiated their deal with CBS in 2012 as a result of "The Mountain" being shuttered).

CBSSN is not tracked by Nielsen. Apparently FS2 isn't either, since Sports Media Watch doesn't list any games from both networks. And I assume neither is tracked because neither generates much in the way of ratings.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...v-ratings/

So it looks like the MWC got a minimum of 10 football games on channels that draw enough viewers to be rated (CBS, FOX, FS1).

In TV land, often you have to choose between money and exposure. The MWC has apparently chosen money, much like it did in 2004 when it left ESPN and signed with CSTV.

(01-09-2020 06:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 06:35 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I believe Boise St. previous deal with ESPN was for $8mil a year. So, estimating their cut of the current deal being 11 or 12Mil seems reasonable.

no clue where you got those crazy numbers..their old deal was 3mil...they get 1.8mil more than the rest of the MWC...everyone else was getting 1.1mil

bise split isnt confirmed but most are estimating boise gets 5.6-5.8mil.

This is correct according to this tweet

(01-09-2020 07:02 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 06:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 06:35 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  I believe Boise St. previous deal with ESPN was for $8mil a year. So, estimating their cut of the current deal being 11 or 12Mil seems reasonable.

no clue where you got those crazy numbers..their old deal was 3mil...they get 1.8mil more than the rest of the MWC...everyone else was getting 1.1mil

bise split isnt confirmed but most are estimating boise gets 5.6-5.8mil.

This is correct according to this tweet

Thats about what I came up with (5.7 million). Thats a 3.9 million regular share with the 1.8 million dollar contractual "Boise special deal" bonus.

So Tulsa is making more than Boise.

This is good G4 money right here. Proud of them.

(01-09-2020 04:52 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 04:45 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 04:42 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I read that most teams will make $3.15 million per year, so less than half what AAC members make.

If that's true (assuming that all the teams take the money, and none of it goes to conference overhead like staff pay, rent, war chest, etc.) that means Boise is making $13.5MM per year. Which is ludicrous.

If there really is that sort of discrepancy, I’d bet AFA and CSU are on the horn with Aresco right now.

Lol...or not...

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Around $4 mil per school and with 3rd tier rights still for sale. Not bad. 3rd tier rights could push teams to $5 mil a year on only a 6 year deal.

(01-09-2020 08:13 PM)namssa Wrote:  Around $4 mil per school and with 3rd tier rights still for sale. Not bad. 3rd tier rights could push teams to $5 mil a year on only a 6 year deal.

Not likely. There is little to no substantial value in those third tier rights. In fact, there is such minimal demand for them the MW has largely ended up holding them and using them as content for the MW Digital Network for the last 5-6 years. Those MW third tier rights will be more about additional exposure than financial gain.

(01-09-2020 08:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 08:13 PM)namssa Wrote:  Around $4 mil per school and with 3rd tier rights still for sale. Not bad. 3rd tier rights could push teams to $5 mil a year on only a 6 year deal.

Not likely. There is little to no substantial value in those third tier rights. In fact, there is such minimal demand for them the MW has largely ended up holding them and using them as content for the MW Digital Network for the last 5-6 years. Those MW third tier rights will be more about additional exposure than financial gain.

It depends on the team. If the 3rd tier rights go back to the school, then a school like SDSU can easily make over $1 mil on that content to FSW or FSSD for example.

If its sold to ESPN+ as a package it could do well considering its over 20 football games and 200 basketball games, women's sports and Olympics sports.

(01-09-2020 05:12 PM)pesik Wrote:  bombshell

So the other Mountain West programs are pissed. A signal from the Mountain West commissioner to those programs to hold tight for 6 years.

(01-09-2020 04:37 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  MWC Finalizes TV Deal

Not bad at all.

Excerpt:

Quote:The Mountain West Conference has finalized new media agreements with CBS Sports and Fox that will pay the conference $270M over six years. The $45M per-year average is three times more than what the MWC made previously in its deals with CBS and ESPN.

I'll leave it to you guys to pick it apart.

P7

As I stated in another thread... Time for top tier of AAC to get on the phone with Thompson

This thread is irrelevant, whats the obsession with the MW or any other G4?

(01-09-2020 11:09 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  As I stated in another thread... Time for top tier of AAC to get on the phone with Thompson

This thread is irrelevant, whats the obsession with the MW or any other G4?

Because the fans here are obsessed with getting any number of the MWC schools even though they are G4.
Even Hawaii Bawhahaha

This is the MW Conference call transcript.

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?...1578612346

Football (not including Navy's CBSSN games or Hawaii's local telecasts)

Total Linear Exposure
American - minimum 40 games
MWC - minimum 39 games

Tier One
American - minimum 20 games on ABC, ESPN or ESPN2
MWC - minimum 10 games on CBS, FOX or FS1

Tier Two
American - minimum 20 games on ESPNU
MWC - minimum 29 games on CBSSN, FS2

Streaming
American - the rest on ESPN+
MWC - 10 games on CBSSN All Access

Title Game
American - ABC or ESPN
MWC - Fox or FS1

Basketball

Total Linear Exposure
American - minimum 65 games
MWC - minimum 48 games

Tier One
American - minimum 25 games on ESPN or ESPN2
MWC - minimum 14 games on CBS, Fox or FS1

Tier Two
American - minimum 40 games on ESPNU
MWC - minimum 34 games on CBSSN, FS2

Streaming
American - the rest on ESPN+
MWC - 10 games on CBSS All Access

Tournament
American - semis on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU, finals on ESPN
MWC - semis on CBSSN, finals on CBS

Women's Basketball
American - minimum 5 games on ESPN/ESPN2; minimum 8 games on ESPNU; rest on ESPN+. Tournament on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU.
MWC - nothing announced

Olympic Sports
American - minimum 5 games on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. More on ESPN+
MWC - nothing announced

Rights Fees
American - $83.3M/year * 12 years
MWC - $45M/year * 6 years

That deal seems like a real win for the MWC. I did not expect 3 to 4 mill per team. As for AF to the AAC.........hmmm.