That’s the way I approached my teams’ scrimmages. It was cool to see what dynamics worked and didn’t work free of charge.

I will add however that having better players makes a huge difference. Hard to win without the horses. Not saying that’s the case here because I haven’t seen them but hoops games are generally won before tip.

(10-28-2019 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-28-2019 01:34 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-28-2019 01:27 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  In somewhat related news. Duke sqeeked by D2 power foe Northern Missouri State 69-63 in an open public exhibition. Not a closed scrimmage. Guess Duke should write off any chances of winning anything this year. Because they must truly suck. ????

Apples to oranges. A coach who always figures it out with K, and a coach who quite honestly hasn't figured out how to get out of his own way. We are looking for something, anything to give us some hope. But it just seemingly gets worse.

Have you seen anything with this team? Have you seen a single practice? None of us will see the true product until when the games really count. You know I love you man. But all I I've seen you looking for in your posts is failure. I do understand we don't process a coaching staff the same way. I've taken the same approach with every coach we've ever had. There's grumblings with every new HC, including Wainwright, Brownell and Keatts. There's been grumblings with all the coaches who failed here from the day they walked in the door. I refuse to compound any problem before a coach has a chance to prove themselves and their system. This year CB has all his players. And it's time to produce. Once I see the product on the floor, I may march right beside you and call for change. After this season, there will be more leverage to make a change. We have had no choice but to be encouraging for our players in particular. We have not been in position to buy out a contract.
To be alarmed by a BS closed scrimmage score is just laughable. That's the last thing coaches care about in closed doors especially. It's about trying things to see what might work for the team. It's testing individuals in situations to see how they respond. And it's about seeing what combinations may work in real game situations. It's never about seeing how you can blow out the team you're scrimmaging with. I've been to some practices and have seen them working on what has been their weaknesses. Now I need to see if they can produce in real games.

All fair points, except i'm really not looking to post negative stuff! I'd love to be posting about how good we looked, or how much better the D is etc etc. And while i agree we don't make or break a season by a scrimmage, it's also troubling to me what's happened thus far. That's where i think we disagree. I hope you are not walking beside me marching for a change. I'd much rather be talking about how big of an improvement it's been. Like you said, he's got his guys now, so we shall see soon enough one way or the other.

https://www.spreaker.com/user/sthespodca...mull-final is a podcast with Brian Mull as a guest that is partially about the CAA. One guy pronounced Toews as "towws" as in the "oww" sound when you get hurt. I thought it was pronounced "tayes" or "taves" (I don't remember which). The other guy did not correct the pronunciation. How is it pronounced?

The podcast said you could have two point guards play at the same time, Toews and Phillips.

(10-28-2019 07:53 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  https://www.spreaker.com/user/sthespodca...mull-final is a podcast with Brian Mull as a guest that is partially about the CAA. One guy pronounced Toews as "towws" as in the "oww" sound when you get hurt. I thought it was pronounced "tayes" or "taves" (I don't remember which). The other guy did not correct the pronunciation. How is it pronounced?

The podcast said you could have two point guards play at the same time, Toews and Phillips.

Taves

(10-22-2019 03:20 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If Jimmy needs a to hire a HC in the next couple of years it shouldn't take long. Call up Takayo Siddle and right your wrongs from the last coaching search. It really is that simple IMO.

From the sound of things this morning in Raleigh, we can just wait another year and re-hire Keatts.

(11-06-2019 08:47 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 03:20 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If Jimmy needs a to hire a HC in the next couple of years it shouldn't take long. Call up Takayo Siddle and right your wrongs from the last coaching search. It really is that simple IMO.

From the sound of things this morning in Raleigh, we can just wait another year and re-hire Keatts.

That was a tough one. CJ Bryce was impressive though

With a few more games under our belt, wondering what everyone thinks?


I'd go with Toews, Phillips, Sims, Boggs, Linssen

Actually decent size at 6'8", 6'7", 6'6" in our 3-5 spots.

I'm perplexed Boggs isn't getting more PT already. Wondering if McGrath is ropadoping him before CAA play? He's hitting .679 from the field and is our best three point shooter at .455. He fits the prototype of a stretch 4, which McGrath seems to prefer. He's also hitting .769 from the FT line, which is #4 on the team and is 2nd on the team in rebounding at 4.9 rbg in only 18.9 minutes. His height would really help in the post.

Phillips is raw and gets into trouble sometimes, but he's our best at getting to the bucket on the finish. We need his scoring. Toews, Sims and Linssen are probably a given at this point.

(11-24-2019 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote:  With a few more games under our belt, wondering what everyone thinks?


I'd go with Toews, Phillips, Sims, Boggs, Linssen

Actually decent size at 6'8", 6'7", 6'6" in our 3-5 spots.

I'm perplexed Boggs isn't getting more PT already. Wondering if McGrath is ropadoping him before CAA play? He's hitting .679 from the field and is our best three point shooter at .455. He fits the prototype of a stretch 4, which McGrath seems to prefer. He's also hitting .769 from the FT line, which is #4 on the team and is 2nd on the team in rebounding at 4.9 rbg in only 18.9 minutes. His height would really help in the post.

Phillips is raw and gets into trouble sometimes, but he's our best at getting to the bucket on the finish. We need his scoring. Toews, Sims and Linssen are probably a given at this point.

I’m good with that lineup. The only wildcard for me will be how ready to go Gadsden will be. Phillips has shown a raw ability to get himself into the defenders and score. Depending on how healthy/productive TG can be though, he might creep in on Phillips’ minutes.


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(11-24-2019 05:45 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 05:28 PM)82hawk Wrote:  With a few more games under our belt, wondering what everyone thinks?


I'd go with Toews, Phillips, Sims, Boggs, Linssen

Actually decent size at 6'8", 6'7", 6'6" in our 3-5 spots.

I'm perplexed Boggs isn't getting more PT already. Wondering if McGrath is ropadoping him before CAA play? He's hitting .679 from the field and is our best three point shooter at .455. He fits the prototype of a stretch 4, which McGrath seems to prefer. He's also hitting .769 from the FT line, which is #4 on the team and is 2nd on the team in rebounding at 4.9 rbg in only 18.9 minutes. His height would really help in the post.

Phillips is raw and gets into trouble sometimes, but he's our best at getting to the bucket on the finish. We need his scoring. Toews, Sims and Linssen are probably a given at this point.

I’m good with that lineup. The only wildcard for me will be how ready to go Gadsden will be. Phillips has shown a raw ability to get himself into the defenders and score. Depending on how healthy/productive TG can be though, he might creep in on Phillips’ minutes.


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If Gadsden comes back, no doubt he'll get time at the 2. He's too good to sit. Okauru had a starting spot penciled in, but he just isn't getting it done. Maybe he'll come around.

Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

(12-24-2019 03:58 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

Oh don’t get me wrong. That bothers me just as much and both speak to a fundamental failure on the coaching staff. First, you don’t give precious scholarships to players when there are such glaring holes and deficiencies. If I had someone working for me that made such careless business decisions I’d fire them. It’d be one thing if we had endless coffers such as UNC, Duke, Kentucky, etc. We don’t. Which requires those we entrust to make wise decisions with the money we bestow them.

Again, I’m just as upset by a star scholarship player wasting the money that hardworking folks gave them. We speak a lot about “it’s the kid’s future and let them do what’s best for them.”, and you’re right on here... we must not forget that they’re getting free education, room and board thanks to our hard work and giving. We often speak about how students shouldn’t have to feel loyalty to a school, but in the same mindset they and we forget the investment GIVEN to them, and that investment is largely paid by donors... not the school itself.

Perhaps there should be new stipulations that require students who abandon a scholarship to pay back that money, or a significant portion of it.



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(12-24-2019 03:58 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

100% agree... we now have an open scholarship that isn’t being used due to Toews leaving in the middle of the season. Wish he decided to leave after last season so that scholarship could be used.

(12-24-2019 03:58 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Entering conference play, we went from too many guards to the loss of four guards due to injury or transfer. So, where are we now as far as starters and lineups?

Phillips, Okauru, Sims, Boggs, Linssen to start

Which would mean Sims is the only starter who played for UNCW last year.

Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

The problem is UNCW students pay an athletic fee of $800 per year. That fee pays most of the expenses for our athletic department. If that walk on is a Chris Flemmings type player who shows up when we don't have scholarships available, sits a year and then EARNS the scholarship with stellar play, that's the reason we have scholarships in the first place. They are not rewards for hard work and persistence, they are used to bring top talent to play sports at UNCW. Also, when we're playing in NCAA games more money is flowing into the program from multiple sources. At that point, giving a scholarship to a walk on is financially responsible. We're not in that position, and if it weren't for some players transferring, we'd be short on available scholarships with no seniors and a desperate need for big men.

(12-24-2019 06:02 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 03:58 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Well. I guess we don’t have as many rotation issues and wild substitutions to worry about.


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True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

The problem is UNCW students pay an athletic fee of $800 per year. That fee pays most of the expenses for our athletic department. If that walk on is a Chris Flemmings type player who shows up when we don't have scholarships available, sits a year and then EARNS the scholarship with stellar play, that's the reason we have scholarships in the first place. They are not rewards for hard work and persistence, they are used to bring top talent to play sports at UNCW. Also, when we're playing in NCAA games more money is flowing into the program from multiple sources. At that point, giving a scholarship to a walk on is financially responsible. We're not in that position, and if it weren't for some players transferring, we'd be short on available scholarships with no seniors and a desperate need for big men.

All of that is fair. I do still think the NCAA should financially penalize scholarship players who leave a program. Especially student athletes that leave a team during the season as two of ours did this year and at least one did last year. I have no qualms with the athletes that leave in the off season but leaving a team high and dry in the middle of the season should absolutely be penalized.


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(12-24-2019 10:15 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 06:02 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 03:58 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(12-24-2019 02:31 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 11:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  True. Shortens the bench really fast. And I do hope we land some big men with these open scholarships. I also have no idea why we gave a scholarship to a walk on when we aren't experiencing succes? It's a slap in the face to donors and students paying student fees to support athletics at UNCW.

I completely agree. I voiced my opinion on the matter in a letter to the Athletic Dept. I’m sure he’s a great kid. However, my giving is based on a limited budget out of love for my school and the basketball program. I give to both basketball and baseball. I wrote exactly what you just expressed, that I found it insulting that my dollars are wasted in terms of the product the last couple years and then instead of filling a very important hole, we gave chunk of money to a kid who will rarely ever play. Again, I’m sure he’s a good young man and I’m happy for him, but if basketball wants to continue to receive my money they better learn how to manage a program.


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I am also sure you guys are good dudes and I kind of understand the concern but I don't see the problem with this kid getting rewarded for a lifetime of hard work. If anything I could see people getting pissed about a kid who transfers out in the middle of the season without any type of heads up to a coach that recruited and played him. The walk on deal is not the problem in this spot IMO.

The problem is UNCW students pay an athletic fee of $800 per year. That fee pays most of the expenses for our athletic department. If that walk on is a Chris Flemmings type player who shows up when we don't have scholarships available, sits a year and then EARNS the scholarship with stellar play, that's the reason we have scholarships in the first place. They are not rewards for hard work and persistence, they are used to bring top talent to play sports at UNCW. Also, when we're playing in NCAA games more money is flowing into the program from multiple sources. At that point, giving a scholarship to a walk on is financially responsible. We're not in that position, and if it weren't for some players transferring, we'd be short on available scholarships with no seniors and a desperate need for big men.

All of that is fair. I do still think the NCAA should financially penalize scholarship players who leave a program. Especially student athletes that leave a team during the season as two of ours did this year and at least one did last year. I have no qualms with the athletes that leave in the off season but leaving a team high and dry in the middle of the season should absolutely be penalized.


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Or, if you are filling a spot vacated mid season, you should be able to bring in a player from the portal that can play immediately instead of having to sit a year.