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(12-20-2019 05:39 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 05:32 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

Richmond, where he wanted to go in the first place before changing his mind. Just my guess.

By watching them the other night, he can't possibly thing he could play for them, right?
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(12-20-2019 05:41 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
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(12-20-2019 05:32 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

Richmond, where he wanted to go in the first place before changing his mind. Just my guess.

By watching them the other night, he can't possibly thing he could play for them, right?

I dunno what the guy thinks. Most of us are just spit-balling here.
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(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  About 2 years ago UAB caught fire during the conference portion of the schedule. Without trying to be too pollyanna, I think this team has the potential to do that. If those guys weren't dedicated or happy or whatever, rip off the band-aid. There is enough talent on this team that we can be competitive.

Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
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(12-20-2019 02:55 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 02:19 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 12:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 12:48 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  I am afraid the basketball program needs the same reboot as we just did with football.

That would be an overreaction. There are some talented young players on the roster. They will get better over time. This opens up 2 schollys that we can better use.

Dickens was a no brainer (cant turn down a 4 star big man that wants to transfer here), but it just didn't work out. On or off the court.

You can't be perfect in selecting players. Some would rather make excuses and jump ship.

There are bigger issues. There needs to be an entirely new style of play. Watching ODU basketball is too often excruciating. We need to develop an entertaining brand of basketball or we will never progress.

New style of play doesn't equal wins.

I have no problem with people that do not enjoy intricacies of the game and just want to see points, but that doesn't mean it will equal a better team and maybe not even better attendance.

The team is young right now and struggling. Clearly a rebuilding year. They will be back soon.
Only if JJ does not waste anymore grants. He usually picks up second rate players, in the late period. However maybe he can get lucky with a grad and a good player from the transfer portal.
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(12-20-2019 05:41 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 05:39 PM)bench jockey Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 05:32 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

Richmond, where he wanted to go in the first place before changing his mind. Just my guess.

By watching them the other night, he can't possibly thing he could play for them, right?

Correct...he won't meet Richmond's transfer requirements.
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(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  More PT for Ezikpe (if he can stay out of foul trouble) and Reece bodes well for next year. Any update on Dimitris Karaiskos? Injured, just not ready, or a combination of both? Since he has already blown his redshirt, he might as well play and take his lumps this year to get ready for next.

I will be SHOCKED if he plays any more this year. Honestly he should have never played the 2mins that he did. He struggles to even get off the floor and jog.
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RE: Godwin transfers
(12-20-2019 06:09 PM)Obiwan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  About 2 years ago UAB caught fire during the conference portion of the schedule. Without trying to be too pollyanna, I think this team has the potential to do that. If those guys weren't dedicated or happy or whatever, rip off the band-aid. There is enough talent on this team that we can be competitive.

Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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(12-20-2019 04:53 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Something’s rotten in Denmark.

It's the herring

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(12-20-2019 07:35 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 06:09 PM)Obiwan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  About 2 years ago UAB caught fire during the conference portion of the schedule. Without trying to be too pollyanna, I think this team has the potential to do that. If those guys weren't dedicated or happy or whatever, rip off the band-aid. There is enough talent on this team that we can be competitive.

Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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Some think the cup is half full, others think the cup is shattered. I’m somewhere in between. I like Jones but he has a high floor and a low ceiling.

So my question is this; what is our ceiling as a program? Outside of a moon shot I’d say what VCU has accomplished is the max we could ask for. They are a consistent top 50 program who plays around in the top 25.

This season ODU has struggled but last year we made the tourney. I think right now we are a top 100 program (not season, program). It’s hard to go from top 100 to top 50 and even harder to move past that.

So yes I’m frustrated and disappointed by Godwin and Dickens leaving. Do I think it’s a defining moment for our program? No I don’t.

We’ll get it together and have a shot in the CUSA tournament. Go Monarchs.
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Not too different than this. I would be fine if we found a great coach. I think we have a solid, too 100 program. I think Jones is not the best coach but a really good one for our level. We have a better shot at hiring a worse coach than a better coach than him if we were hiring. If that means leas than optimal offense and good defense/slow tempo....so be it.

We have one of the best coaches/programs in the conference.....maybe the best. Sometimes you fall in love with the “backup QB”.
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I’m actually excited about Godwin and Dickens leaving. Dickens has been extremely frustrating to watch and I won’t miss him at all. I’ll miss Godwin’s potential he never seemed to come close to reaching, but he was easily replaced by Oliver who is a much more rounded player. I think this could actually be good for us, minus depth.
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If we have one of the best coaches in an awful conference that’s not really saying much. Maybe JJ is the best, but that’s only because the better coaches have moved up and out.
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(12-20-2019 09:07 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 07:35 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 06:09 PM)Obiwan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  About 2 years ago UAB caught fire during the conference portion of the schedule. Without trying to be too pollyanna, I think this team has the potential to do that. If those guys weren't dedicated or happy or whatever, rip off the band-aid. There is enough talent on this team that we can be competitive.

Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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Some think the cup is half full, others think the cup is shattered. I’m somewhere in between. I like Jones but he has a high floor and a low ceiling.

So my question is this; what is our ceiling as a program? Outside of a moon shot I’d say what VCU has accomplished is the max we could ask for. They are a consistent top 50 program who plays around in the top 25.

This season ODU has struggled but last year we made the tourney. I think right now we are a top 100 program (not season, program). It’s hard to go from top 100 to top 50 and even harder to move past that.

So yes I’m frustrated and disappointed by Godwin and Dickens leaving. Do I think it’s a defining moment for our program? No I don’t.

We’ll get it together and have a shot in the CUSA tournament. Go Monarchs.
I'll reiterate my post from earlier. This program is about as bad as it has been in it's D1 history over a 6 year period. It is the program that has a low floor, not JJ. I do agree that VCU is about as good as we can hope for, and that is pretty damn good. Why would you not arrive to be your best, and instead just hang out forever saying, yeah we could probably be better, but we aren't terrible. If I said that to my boss, I'd probably be fired.

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Def not near the worst.
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(12-20-2019 09:45 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 09:07 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 07:35 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 06:09 PM)Obiwan Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  About 2 years ago UAB caught fire during the conference portion of the schedule. Without trying to be too pollyanna, I think this team has the potential to do that. If those guys weren't dedicated or happy or whatever, rip off the band-aid. There is enough talent on this team that we can be competitive.

Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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Some think the cup is half full, others think the cup is shattered. I’m somewhere in between. I like Jones but he has a high floor and a low ceiling.

So my question is this; what is our ceiling as a program? Outside of a moon shot I’d say what VCU has accomplished is the max we could ask for. They are a consistent top 50 program who plays around in the top 25.

This season ODU has struggled but last year we made the tourney. I think right now we are a top 100 program (not season, program). It’s hard to go from top 100 to top 50 and even harder to move past that.

So yes I’m frustrated and disappointed by Godwin and Dickens leaving. Do I think it’s a defining moment for our program? No I don’t.

We’ll get it together and have a shot in the CUSA tournament. Go Monarchs.
I'll reiterate my post from earlier. This program is about as bad as it has been in it's D1 history over a 6 year period. It is the program that has a low floor, not JJ. I do agree that VCU is about as good as we can hope for, and that is pretty damn good. Why would you not arrive to be your best, and instead just hang out forever saying, yeah we could probably be better, but we aren't terrible. If I said that to my boss, I'd probably be fired.

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Have you been watching any of our games for the past 6 years? If so, that’s a pretty ridiculous statement to say this is as bad as it’s been. Or maybe I should ask do you know anything about the history of ODU bb? I am not going to waste my looking back at the records but try checking out Tom Young’s success with us. He was here about 6 years and had players like Chris Gatlin, AC Carver, and Frank Smith and aside from one really good year he had a losing record with us. His teams were terrible. How about the train wreck Blaine Taylor left us?

Sure, we all hate to see what this season looks like after 12 games but the low point for 6 years? I have been pretty proud of our record the past 6 years. Am I satisfied? Certainly not and no one is, not the fans, not the players, not the coaches. But we have done pretty well. It’s certainly not a low point for a 6 year period in any way, shape, or form.
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RE: Godwin transfers
(12-20-2019 10:19 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 09:45 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 09:07 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 07:35 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 06:09 PM)Obiwan Wrote:  Exactly - our typical fans complain no matter what .. this gives them more to talk about over a cup of egg nog
Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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Some think the cup is half full, others think the cup is shattered. I’m somewhere in between. I like Jones but he has a high floor and a low ceiling.

So my question is this; what is our ceiling as a program? Outside of a moon shot I’d say what VCU has accomplished is the max we could ask for. They are a consistent top 50 program who plays around in the top 25.

This season ODU has struggled but last year we made the tourney. I think right now we are a top 100 program (not season, program). It’s hard to go from top 100 to top 50 and even harder to move past that.

So yes I’m frustrated and disappointed by Godwin and Dickens leaving. Do I think it’s a defining moment for our program? No I don’t.

We’ll get it together and have a shot in the CUSA tournament. Go Monarchs.
I'll reiterate my post from earlier. This program is about as bad as it has been in it's D1 history over a 6 year period. It is the program that has a low floor, not JJ. I do agree that VCU is about as good as we can hope for, and that is pretty damn good. Why would you not arrive to be your best, and instead just hang out forever saying, yeah we could probably be better, but we aren't terrible. If I said that to my boss, I'd probably be fired.

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Have you been watching any of our games for the past 6 years? If so, that’s a pretty ridiculous statement to say this is as bad as it’s been. Or maybe I should ask do you know anything about the history of ODU bb? I am not going to waste my looking back at the records but try checking out Tom Young’s success with us. He was here about 6 years and had players like Chris Gatlin, AC Carver, and Frank Smith and aside from one really good year he had a losing record with us. His teams were terrible. How about the train wreck Blaine Taylor left us?

Sure, we all hate to see what this season looks like after 12 games but the low point for 6 years? I have been pretty proud of our record the past 6 years. Am I satisfied? Certainly not and no one is, not the fans, not the players, not the coaches. But we have done pretty well. It’s certainly not a low point for a 6 year period in any way, shape, or form.
To put things in perspective, JJ did better with the train wreck Blaine left us than he is doing now. This team is worse than that one. Let that sink in.


But yeah, while this is one of the worst teams ODU has fielded, the 6 year statement wasn't fair.
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(12-20-2019 10:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 10:19 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 09:45 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 09:07 PM)ODU2003 Wrote:  
(12-20-2019 07:35 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Some never complain. They are like Baghdad Bob. Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

We just lost 2 starters mid season. No matter the reason, that is not fine.

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Some think the cup is half full, others think the cup is shattered. I’m somewhere in between. I like Jones but he has a high floor and a low ceiling.

So my question is this; what is our ceiling as a program? Outside of a moon shot I’d say what VCU has accomplished is the max we could ask for. They are a consistent top 50 program who plays around in the top 25.

This season ODU has struggled but last year we made the tourney. I think right now we are a top 100 program (not season, program). It’s hard to go from top 100 to top 50 and even harder to move past that.

So yes I’m frustrated and disappointed by Godwin and Dickens leaving. Do I think it’s a defining moment for our program? No I don’t.

We’ll get it together and have a shot in the CUSA tournament. Go Monarchs.
I'll reiterate my post from earlier. This program is about as bad as it has been in it's D1 history over a 6 year period. It is the program that has a low floor, not JJ. I do agree that VCU is about as good as we can hope for, and that is pretty damn good. Why would you not arrive to be your best, and instead just hang out forever saying, yeah we could probably be better, but we aren't terrible. If I said that to my boss, I'd probably be fired.

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Have you been watching any of our games for the past 6 years? If so, that’s a pretty ridiculous statement to say this is as bad as it’s been. Or maybe I should ask do you know anything about the history of ODU bb? I am not going to waste my looking back at the records but try checking out Tom Young’s success with us. He was here about 6 years and had players like Chris Gatlin, AC Carver, and Frank Smith and aside from one really good year he had a losing record with us. His teams were terrible. How about the train wreck Blaine Taylor left us?

Sure, we all hate to see what this season looks like after 12 games but the low point for 6 years? I have been pretty proud of our record the past 6 years. Am I satisfied? Certainly not and no one is, not the fans, not the players, not the coaches. But we have done pretty well. It’s certainly not a low point for a 6 year period in any way, shape, or form.
To put things in perspective, JJ did better with the train wreck Blaine left us than he is doing now. This team is worse than that one. Let that sink in.


But yeah, while this is one of the worst teams ODU has fielded, the 6 year statement wasn't fair.
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The last two teams each won 25 games and one conference championship. Step off the ledge. This season sucks. End of story.
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This team will end up a little better than the 14 season (175ish). Not good but a lot of talent returns next year (Green, Wade, Kalu, Curry, Hunter, Oliver). This is a far cry from Blaines team that people were comparing it too (275)
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(12-20-2019 09:51 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Def not near the worst.
No? Care to elaborate?

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