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(12-20-2019 04:43 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  More PT for Ezikpe (if he can stay out of foul trouble) and Reece bodes well for next year. Any update on Dimitris Karaiskos? Injured, just not ready, or a combination of both? Since he has already blown his redshirt, he might as well play and take his lumps this year to get ready for next.

Carver and Ezikpe getting the majority of mins. Kalu has to learn to not foul. Reece as the primary reserve. The Greek might play a little if he can return from injury. Can put Green as the next biggest man next to Carver or Kalu as well for a few minutes.

Something’s rotten in Denmark.

(12-20-2019 12:43 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 10:30 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  I like Marquis and wish him the best, but I think he's getting bad advice and counselling. He may only end up being able to play one semester after transferring. He probably does end up at Hampton for his final semester or follow a former teammate. Maybe even UNCG where Michael Hueitt went.

Team is struggling, Marquis is struggling so everyone is looking for things to change

He'll play a year and a half.

In absolutely NO scenario does he have a year and a half. He will either play 1 semester OR he will find some low level D1 who will scholarship him for 2.5 years so he can play in 2021-2022

(12-20-2019 04:35 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This probably hurts this years team and helps next years team. Dickens knew what it took to be a Monarch off the court and did not abide by it.

You can say that in hindsight, but when we were all expecting that the team would be very good next year, improved versions of Dickens and Godwin were part of that equation. I would be very surprised if next year is anything special knowing what we know now.

(12-20-2019 04:41 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  Some guys are team players and some aren't. Guys transfer for different reasons, this has zero to do with JJ coaching style or playing time.

So it has to do with his recruiting and evaluation.

(12-20-2019 04:54 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 12:43 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 10:30 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  I like Marquis and wish him the best, but I think he's getting bad advice and counselling. He may only end up being able to play one semester after transferring. He probably does end up at Hampton for his final semester or follow a former teammate. Maybe even UNCG where Michael Hueitt went.

Team is struggling, Marquis is struggling so everyone is looking for things to change

He'll play a year and a half.

In absolutely NO scenario does he have a year and a half. He will either play 1 semester OR he will find some low level D1 who will scholarship him for 2.5 years so he can play in 2021-2022

He absolutely could play in the spring semester next year AND get an additional year.

(12-20-2019 04:53 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Something’s rotten in Denmark.

It's the herring

(12-20-2019 04:54 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 12:43 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 10:30 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  I like Marquis and wish him the best, but I think he's getting bad advice and counselling. He may only end up being able to play one semester after transferring. He probably does end up at Hampton for his final semester or follow a former teammate. Maybe even UNCG where Michael Hueitt went.

Team is struggling, Marquis is struggling so everyone is looking for things to change

He'll play a year and a half.

In absolutely NO scenario does he have a year and a half. He will either play 1 semester OR he will find some low level D1 who will scholarship him for 2.5 years so he can play in 2021-2022

I don't understand. He is a junior right now. He will sit out the second semester this season and the first semester of next season. Why would the second semester of next year not be the continuation of his junior year, leaving him half of next season and all of the following season for eligibility?

Fuzzy math going on here, but blue is right. Next Spring (assuming he transfers right now), will be the 2nd half of his junior year. The following year his senior year.

(12-20-2019 05:05 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 04:54 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 12:43 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2019 10:30 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  I like Marquis and wish him the best, but I think he's getting bad advice and counselling. He may only end up being able to play one semester after transferring. He probably does end up at Hampton for his final semester or follow a former teammate. Maybe even UNCG where Michael Hueitt went.

Team is struggling, Marquis is struggling so everyone is looking for things to change

He'll play a year and a half.

In absolutely NO scenario does he have a year and a half. He will either play 1 semester OR he will find some low level D1 who will scholarship him for 2.5 years so he can play in 2021-2022

I don't understand. He is a junior right now. He will sit out the second semester this season and the first semester of next season. Why would the second semester of next year not be the continuation of his junior year, leaving him half of next season and all of the following season for eligibility?

This dude didn't realize that non freshman could redshirt last year. And he loves to say these absolutes about who can not play an additional year and then we see guys like Wilder eligible for 6 years.

Dickens is a bust, but this is all still very bad.

This season seems like BT's last year...deja vu all over again. What's next? JJ passing out during a coach's show? Boy, we are in a very dark place right now.

(12-20-2019 05:18 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  This season seems like BT's last year...deja vu all over again. What's next? JJ passing out during a coach's show? Boy, we are in a very dark place right now.

This team is far better than that team with hope for the future though. That team had very little hope. This team will improve in short order, all hope is not lost.

I don't agree with the assessment that we're going to be better without these guys. I get the "addition by subtraction" thinking and I agree neither Godwin or Dickens amounted to much. However, the timing and the method of these departures doesn't bode well for ODU. Either Jones is really, really bad at evaluating talent and bringing in sub-standard players of questionable character, or he is doing something that is driving players out. Neither scenario is going to play well with future recruits.

(12-20-2019 05:22 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  I don't agree with the assessment that we're going to be better without these guys. I get the "addition by subtraction" thinking and I agree neither Godwin or Dickens amounted to much. However, the timing and the method of these departures doesn't bode well for ODU. Either Jones is really, really bad at evaluating talent and bringing in sub-standard players of questionable character, or he is doing something that is driving players out. Neither scenario is going to play well with future recruits.

It may take time but it will certainly be addition by subtraction in the long run. Dickens and Godwin were our two worst performing players and were not improving.

There is nothing to do with the timing of this except to get in the transfer portal now to be eligible for the spring semester next year.

Both of these were highly skilled players (well moreso Dickens), but you gotta have heart and you gotta be a good team player if you want to win.

Jones has not changed anything in the way he coaches. They've had a group of players that fit really well the past 2 years. They struckout on these 2.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

This will have no impact on recruiting. It's about choices people make and if choices are for the team are themselves.

(12-20-2019 05:32 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

Hampton is almost a sure bet for Godwin. Wish him well. Dickerson is a little different, putting his name into the transfer portal before talking to the staff, is a different approach.

(12-20-2019 05:32 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I wouldn’t be surprised if Godwin transfers to Norfolk State or Hampton.

Richmond, where he wanted to go in the first place before changing his mind. Just my guess.

(12-20-2019 05:34 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  This will have no impact on recruiting. It's about choices people make and if choices are for the team are themselves.

Nope. And Dickens and Godwin should not be lumped together. Different circumstances.