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I do find it interesting that many were critical of Bobby for clapping too much and the same fans are critical of Jones for yelling too much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(12-03-2019 09:52 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  This team ******* sucks. ODU has zero to root for.

Wood Selig should have that engraved on his figurative odu tombstone.

What else has to fall apart for him to go????

All of this has occurred under his “leadership”.

(12-03-2019 08:50 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  We lost two first team all conference players. An early season struggle, shouldn’t be a surprise. By conference play, we’ll be fine. Probably end up between 4th and 6th.

5th it is then!

(12-03-2019 10:30 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I do find it interesting that many were critical of Bobby for clapping too much and the same fans are critical of Jones for yelling too much. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well there is a happy medium. I'm good with yelling, it's part of it. Not as good with so much yelling at dudes during the flow of the game, even less okay with the immediate benching as soon as somebody takes a shot he doesn't like. That stuff makes players think twice before they shoot , which kills their confidence and ultimately contributes to JJ's teams never being able to shoot.

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(12-03-2019 08:50 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  We lost two first team all conference players. An early season struggle, shouldn’t be a surprise. By conference play, we’ll be fine. Probably end up between 4th and 6th.

and good coaches can recruit and get replacements when you know you're losing players.

Im sick of our peers leaving us in the dirt.

We were years behind on recruiting a big and guess what, the lack of depth is finally showing its ass as we have no one competent to compete down low.

What a fun season this is shaping up to be.

National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

(12-04-2019 12:23 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 12:23 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

1 championship in 8 years at a program like ours in a crappy conference like CUSA is not a success story. Period.

It’s not even an acceptable performance quite frankly.

(12-04-2019 09:35 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 12:23 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

1 championship in 8 years at a program like ours in a crappy conference like CUSA is not a success story. Period.

It’s not even an acceptable performance quite frankly.

I agree that its not a major success, but it is true that the top 4 or 5 teams every year are pretty good, just not respected as they should be. It would very difficult to win this conference 50% of the time with squads like WKU, MTSU, UTEP in the mix. I do expect ODU to make it to the NCAA at least once every four years, whether by winning or at-large. That is what I would consider acceptable, but expected success. Less is below expectations, more is overachieving (like some of our peers have been doing lately). Hoping JJ has us on the right trajectory. This season has certainly been a disappointment, but Im still optimistic for next year.

(12-04-2019 09:42 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:35 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 12:23 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

1 championship in 8 years at a program like ours in a crappy conference like CUSA is not a success story. Period.

It’s not even an acceptable performance quite frankly.

I agree that its not a major success, but it is true that the top 4 or 5 teams every year are pretty good, just not respected as they should be. It would very difficult to win this conference 50% of the time with squads like WKU, MTSU, UTEP in the mix. I do expect ODU to make it to the NCAA at least once every four years, whether by winning or at-large. That is what I would consider acceptable, but expected success. Less is below expectations, more is overachieving (like some of our peers have been doing lately). Hoping JJ has us on the right trajectory. This season has certainly been a disappointment, but Im still optimistic for next year.

Seriously, what do you see about next year to make you optimistic? All I see is the same old same old.

(12-05-2019 06:57 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:42 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:35 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 12:23 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. Jeff Jones Fired by Aliens!!! Eats own foot.

Coach Jones leads ODU to Conference Regular Season and Conference Tournament Tittle. Loses Conference Player of the Year. Loses First Team Shooting Guard and First Team Point Guard. Fired after 10 games for performance issues???

National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

1 championship in 8 years at a program like ours in a crappy conference like CUSA is not a success story. Period.

It’s not even an acceptable performance quite frankly.

I agree that its not a major success, but it is true that the top 4 or 5 teams every year are pretty good, just not respected as they should be. It would very difficult to win this conference 50% of the time with squads like WKU, MTSU, UTEP in the mix. I do expect ODU to make it to the NCAA at least once every four years, whether by winning or at-large. That is what I would consider acceptable, but expected success. Less is below expectations, more is overachieving (like some of our peers have been doing lately). Hoping JJ has us on the right trajectory. This season has certainly been a disappointment, but Im still optimistic for next year.

Seriously, what do you see about next year to make you optimistic? All I see is the same old same old.

By same old, same old do you mean a 20+ win team that has a chance to win the CUSA tourney or do you mean the first 10 games of this year version?

No inside game, no offense, no FT shooters and no 3 pt shooters, The perception that kids should be better shooters than they are type same old same old. Most years a decent but entirely boring defense.

(12-05-2019 12:36 PM)VB Monarch Wrote:  No inside game, no offense, no FT shooters and no 3 pt shooters, The perception that kids should be better shooters than they are type same old same old. Most years a decent but entirely boring defense.

So is your point that you care more about style of play than results? Not saying I disagree with the desire to see more fun, but your point is related to how the teams plays, not whether they win or lose.

Really wish I understood how your brain works. Some of the inferences you draw from others statements seem very concrete and literal. Also slightly argumentative merely for the sake disagreeing. Or do you disagree

I don’t really care about style of play that much. I’m kind of a basketball purest. I can get enjoyment out of any type of game. High possession, low possession. Great offense. Great defense. Whatever. But as an ODU fan, I just want to see the team win. We’ve been a lower possession defensive team for a while now. And I’m fine with that as long as we are at least pretty good, which we have been. With that being said... if we are going to suck, and have no inside threat and not be able to attack the basket in the half court... we better speed it the f up. If we are playing losing basketball... which ODU hasn’t done in along time. And when I say losing basketball I mean shoot less than 40 percent in every game and LOSE more than we win. (Precisely how this season has started) If we are going to suck I Want to see us play 10 guys, go small and just run up and down and fire up shots. Play as hard as u can and just let it go. Screw it, if the bigs are going to suck this bad just put 4 or 5 guards on the floor like we are a MEAC team. At least then people might still want to watch. Scoring 40ish points and losing is unacceptable. Especially on a regular basis.

For those of you who tout JJ's one tournament appearance/conference championship in his 7th season, and say anyone who expects more is expecting too much from lil ol' ODU, I ask you this. Who is the worst Division 1 coach ODU has had?

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They have had what 5 or 6 coaches ever?

The answer would be Jeff Capel.

(12-05-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  They have had what 5 or 6 coaches ever?

The answer would be Jeff Capel.

1 NCAA tournament, and a win no less, in what, 5 years. He shouldn't have been fired by this board's standards for JJ.

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(12-05-2019 09:02 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  They have had what 5 or 6 coaches ever?

The answer would be Jeff Capel.

1 NCAA tournament in, what, 5 years. He shouldn't have been fired by this board's standards for JJ.

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I dont judge based solely on ncaa tourney appearances

(12-05-2019 10:08 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 06:57 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:42 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 09:35 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 02:55 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  National Enquirer Article. John Wooden Rises From Grave. Takes ODU Head Coaching Job!!!

Moments after Wooden's first press conference, numerous posters on the ODU Fan Forum write to complain Mike Rhoades would have been a better choice than Wooden. A handful of posters gather outside Webb Center, cheerfully recalling the numerous Elite 8 appearances under Blaine Taylor, only to be reminded such appearances never took place. Then, later that evening, a half dozen posters were said to have stolen the 2018-2019 CUSA Championship Banner from Chartway Arena screaming, "We must burn this banner or someone might get the idea Jeff Jones is a successful coach!"

1 championship in 8 years at a program like ours in a crappy conference like CUSA is not a success story. Period.

It’s not even an acceptable performance quite frankly.

I agree that its not a major success, but it is true that the top 4 or 5 teams every year are pretty good, just not respected as they should be. It would very difficult to win this conference 50% of the time with squads like WKU, MTSU, UTEP in the mix. I do expect ODU to make it to the NCAA at least once every four years, whether by winning or at-large. That is what I would consider acceptable, but expected success. Less is below expectations, more is overachieving (like some of our peers have been doing lately). Hoping JJ has us on the right trajectory. This season has certainly been a disappointment, but Im still optimistic for next year.

Seriously, what do you see about next year to make you optimistic? All I see is the same old same old.

By same old, same old do you mean a 20+ win team that has a chance to win the CUSA tourney or do you mean the first 10 games of this year version?

Winning 20 games in a terrible conference with a terrible ooc strength of schedule is NOT a noteworthy accomplishment anymore.

In the good old days of the caa it was definitely an accomplishment.

Now it’s meaningless, it doesn’t even get you into the nit.