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(12-01-2019 10:58 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  The only thing sure is New Orleans gets the champion.

There is no such thing as some other bowl gets second choice. A school can certainly decline the invitation of bowl #2 if they like bowl #3 better (and bowl #3 wants them.)

Here's my prediction:

Champ to NO.
Mobile (if App wins): Georgia Southern
Montgomery (if App wins) Louisiana
Orlando: Georgia State
Arizona: Arkansas State

I'm skeptical league sends AState to the money pit bowl in consecutive seasons.
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(12-01-2019 01:48 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 10:58 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  The only thing sure is New Orleans gets the champion.

There is no such thing as some other bowl gets second choice. A school can certainly decline the invitation of bowl #2 if they like bowl #3 better (and bowl #3 wants them.)

Here's my prediction:

Champ to NO.
Mobile (if App wins): Georgia Southern
Montgomery (if App wins) Louisiana
Orlando: Georgia State
Arizona: Arkansas State

I'm skeptical league sends AState to the money pit bowl in consecutive seasons.

I’m also not sure I believe Cajun logic that they can just turn down Mobile. The League is extremely unlikely to sanction such a move given mobile’s propensity to play jilted lover
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I have never heard anyone say the Cajuns would turn down the bowl game in Mobile if that's where we were sent there. We are not Louisiana Tech. Our players deserve to play in a bowl game. Of course most fans would prefer the NO Bowl, but we have to win next weekend for that. Maybe we will.

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...
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(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  I have never heard anyone say the Cajuns would turn down the bowl game in Mobile if that's where we were sent there. We are not Louisiana Tech. Our players deserve to play in a bowl game. Of course most fans would prefer the NO Bowl, but we have to win next weekend for that. Maybe we will.

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

Smart move, I’ve been there for an APP bowl game, the stadium is in a really bad area, so bad that it seemed the entire police force had the stadium surrounded in a 5 block radius as a show of force, even with the police presence my wife and I didn’t feel safe
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I have to back off on something. I said the #2 choice could turn down the bid and opt for somewhere else. That may not be the case.

I'd have no problem with Mobile if it werent for the date.
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All the talk here around GS has us going to either Montgomery or Orlando
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Bowl Projections:

ESPN:
Kyle Bonagura
New Orleans: Louisiana versus Marshall
Lending Tree: CMU versus Ark State
Camellia: Georgia Southern versus Western Michigan
Cure: Georgia State versus FIU
Belk: App State versus Pittsburgh

Mark Schlabach
New Orleans: App State versus UAB
Lending Tree: Central Michigan versus Louisiana
Camellia: Georgia State versus FIU
Cure: Ark State versus Liberty
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Nevada

CBS Sports
New Orleans: App Sate versus Southern Miss
Lending Tree: UL versus Central Michigan
Camellia: Western Michigan versus Ark State
Cure: UCF versus Georgia State
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Utah State
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(12-01-2019 07:25 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Bowl Projections:

ESPN:
Kyle Bonagura
New Orleans: Louisiana versus Marshall
Lending Tree: CMU versus Ark State
Camellia: Georgia Southern versus Western Michigan
Cure: Georgia State versus FIU
Belk: App State versus Pittsburgh

Mark Schlabach
New Orleans: App State versus UAB
Lending Tree: Central Michigan versus Louisiana
Camellia: Georgia State versus FIU
Cure: Ark State versus Liberty
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Nevada

CBS Sports
New Orleans: App Sate versus Southern Miss
Lending Tree: UL versus Central Michigan
Camellia: Western Michigan versus Ark State
Cure: UCF versus Georgia State
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Utah State

Haha are there enough bowl eligible teams? If so, app can’t go to the Belk Bowl. If not, then the 1st guys makes a lil more sense. But remember the talking heads & keyboard jockeys don’t understand how we & most G5’s place teams.
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(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  I have never heard anyone say the Cajuns would turn down the bowl game in Mobile if that's where we were sent there. We are not Louisiana Tech. Our players deserve to play in a bowl game. Of course most fans would prefer the NO Bowl, but we have to win next weekend for that. Maybe we will.

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

BOP suggested it a couple posts ago with the whole "remember, a school can turn down a bowl invite" thing. But he corrected himself soon after.

I just don't see any way that Mobile decides they'd rather take one of the 7-5 teams over you guys. Maybe if AState or Southern had gotten to 8-4, but that didn't happen.
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That s my thinking too which leaves Montgomery Orlando and Tucson to choose in that order between Ga Southern Ark St and Ga State.
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(12-01-2019 04:15 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  SNIP!

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

Smart move, I’ve been there for an APP bowl game, the stadium is in a really bad area, so bad that it seemed the entire police force had the stadium surrounded in a 5 block radius as a show of force, even with the police presence my wife and I didn’t feel safe

(Again!)

The stadium is NOT in a "bad area". Many assume so because the locals who choose to allow gameday parking on their private property are doing so are mostly minorities (*NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING RACIST*), enthusiastically trying to rent a space to locals and visitors.

The PO-PO are indeed surrounding this area, but ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THE CITY OF MOBILE...to help insure public safety and to help safeguard the automobiles and properties of both the homeowners and their customers.

It's a win-win for MPD, the city and the homeowners participating with the aforementioned, to a offer safe off-site parking to all. The City of Mobile refuses to even require business licenses for these homeowners because of the service they offer to help people have SAFE parking options for LP-Stadium events. If you look very closely, the participating homeowners are wearing CITY-ISSUED reflective clothing (for the most part) as well.

Even though I CAN'T WAIT for Hancock-Whitney next year, do not ever hesitate to park safely, in one of Mobile's SAFEST NEIGHBORHOODS (crime-wise, statistically speaking) to come see any event of interest at our city's historic, crumbling venue. I'd worry more about the infrastructure of LP than the off-site parking options...for REAL, people!
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I loved the Dollar General Bowl when I went. Mobile is a super fun town for a night or two, and uh let me be clear, I was not in a perfect state of mind on gameday but I don't remember thinking the stadium was in a sketchy area at all. If that's where we end up I won't go this year because it's such a long ways, but it definitely seems to be getting a bad rep on here and I don't know why. I had a great experience there.
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(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  I have never heard anyone say the Cajuns would turn down the bowl game in Mobile if that's where we were sent there. We are not Louisiana Tech. Our players deserve to play in a bowl game. Of course most fans would prefer the NO Bowl, but we have to win next weekend for that. Maybe we will.

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...


It’s not great. It’s just an old stadium in a residential area some people find scary but I’ve not been ill at ease there.

Facilities suck but we’ve all suffered through old stadium bathrooms and old concession stands.

Get a room at the Renaissance walk to numerous bars and restaurants that will be flying your flags and showing your colors. It’s a blast because your fans take over downtown, you see people wearing your gear all over downtown


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(12-01-2019 10:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 04:15 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  SNIP!

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

Smart move, I’ve been there for an APP bowl game, the stadium is in a really bad area, so bad that it seemed the entire police force had the stadium surrounded in a 5 block radius as a show of force, even with the police presence my wife and I didn’t feel safe

(Again!)

The stadium is NOT in a "bad area". Many assume so because the locals who choose to allow gameday parking on their private property are doing so are mostly minorities (*NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING RACIST*), enthusiastically trying to rent a space to locals and visitors.

The PO-PO are indeed surrounding this area, but ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THE CITY OF MOBILE...to help insure public safety and to help safeguard the automobiles and properties of both the homeowners and their customers.

It's a win-win for MPD, the city and the homeowners participating with the aforementioned, to a offer safe off-site parking to all. The City of Mobile refuses to even require business licenses for these homeowners because of the service they offer to help people have SAFE parking options for LP-Stadium events. If you look very closely, the participating homeowners are wearing CITY-ISSUED reflective clothing (for the most part) as well.

Even though I CAN'T WAIT for Hancock-Whitney next year, do not ever hesitate to park safely, in one of Mobile's SAFEST NEIGHBORHOODS (crime-wise, statistically speaking) to come see any event of interest at our city's historic, crumbling venue. I'd worry more about the infrastructure of LP than the off-site parking options...for REAL, people!


Second time we went we stayed away from downtown to save money and ended up in the same hotel as the Kent State band. Their busses had police escort so I turned on my flashers and got behind the last bus and hauled ass to the stadium with a couple more catching on and getting in behind me :)


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(12-01-2019 10:44 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 10:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 04:15 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  SNIP!

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

Smart move, I’ve been there for an APP bowl game, the stadium is in a really bad area, so bad that it seemed the entire police force had the stadium surrounded in a 5 block radius as a show of force, even with the police presence my wife and I didn’t feel safe

(Again!)

The stadium is NOT in a "bad area". Many assume so because the locals who choose to allow gameday parking on their private property are doing so are mostly minorities (*NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING RACIST*), enthusiastically trying to rent a space to locals and visitors.

The PO-PO are indeed surrounding this area, but ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THE CITY OF MOBILE...to help insure public safety and to help safeguard the automobiles and properties of both the homeowners and their customers.

It's a win-win for MPD, the city and the homeowners participating with the aforementioned, to a offer safe off-site parking to all. The City of Mobile refuses to even require business licenses for these homeowners because of the service they offer to help people have SAFE parking options for LP-Stadium events. If you look very closely, the participating homeowners are wearing CITY-ISSUED reflective clothing (for the most part) as well.

Even though I CAN'T WAIT for Hancock-Whitney next year, do not ever hesitate to park safely, in one of Mobile's SAFEST NEIGHBORHOODS (crime-wise, statistically speaking) to come see any event of interest at our city's historic, crumbling venue. I'd worry more about the infrastructure of LP than the off-site parking options...for REAL, people!


Second time we went we stayed away from downtown to save money and ended up in the same hotel as the Kent State band. Their busses had police escort so I turned on my flashers and got behind the last bus and hauled ass to the stadium with a couple more catching on and getting in behind me :)


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(12-01-2019 10:44 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 10:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 04:15 PM)moehler Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 03:58 PM)CW Fishman Wrote:  SNIP!

Personally, I am not sure I would want to attend a game at the current stadium in Mobile. I have never been there but I have heard really bad things about the stadium...

Smart move, I’ve been there for an APP bowl game, the stadium is in a really bad area, so bad that it seemed the entire police force had the stadium surrounded in a 5 block radius as a show of force, even with the police presence my wife and I didn’t feel safe

(Again!)

The stadium is NOT in a "bad area". Many assume so because the locals who choose to allow gameday parking on their private property are doing so are mostly minorities (*NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING RACIST*), enthusiastically trying to rent a space to locals and visitors.

The PO-PO are indeed surrounding this area, but ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THESE HOMEOWNERS IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN OFFICIAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THE CITY OF MOBILE...to help insure public safety and to help safeguard the automobiles and properties of both the homeowners and their customers.

It's a win-win for MPD, the city and the homeowners participating with the aforementioned, to a offer safe off-site parking to all. The City of Mobile refuses to even require business licenses for these homeowners because of the service they offer to help people have SAFE parking options for LP-Stadium events. If you look very closely, the participating homeowners are wearing CITY-ISSUED reflective clothing (for the most part) as well.

Even though I CAN'T WAIT for Hancock-Whitney next year, do not ever hesitate to park safely, in one of Mobile's SAFEST NEIGHBORHOODS (crime-wise, statistically speaking) to come see any event of interest at our city's historic, crumbling venue. I'd worry more about the infrastructure of LP than the off-site parking options...for REAL, people!


Second time we went we stayed away from downtown to save money and ended up in the same hotel as the Kent State band. Their busses had police escort so I turned on my flashers and got behind the last bus and hauled ass to the stadium with a couple more catching on and getting in behind me :)


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(12-01-2019 07:44 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Something is inherently wrong with the way bowl game matchups are done. A conference champion should face another conference champion in its bowl game.

You act as if most bowl games are meaningful.
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I'm not an insider but I know a couple and the general feeling is GS is going to Orlando. If that's really the case I think it will be:

New Orleans: App/ULL
Mobile: ULL/App
Montgomery: stAte
Orlando: GS
Arizona: GSU
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(12-02-2019 01:11 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I'm not an insider but I know a couple and the general feeling is GS is going to Orlando. If that's really the case I think it will be:

New Orleans: App/ULL
Mobile: ULL/App
Montgomery: stAte
Orlando: GS
Arizona: GSU

Yep.

No word on whether it's Ark State or Georgia State that go to Arizona, but all signs point to Southern in Orlando.
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(12-01-2019 08:49 PM)GS99-00 Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 07:25 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Bowl Projections:

ESPN:
Kyle Bonagura
New Orleans: Louisiana versus Marshall
Lending Tree: CMU versus Ark State
Camellia: Georgia Southern versus Western Michigan
Cure: Georgia State versus FIU
Belk: App State versus Pittsburgh

Mark Schlabach
New Orleans: App State versus UAB
Lending Tree: Central Michigan versus Louisiana
Camellia: Georgia State versus FIU
Cure: Ark State versus Liberty
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Nevada

CBS Sports
New Orleans: App Sate versus Southern Miss
Lending Tree: UL versus Central Michigan
Camellia: Western Michigan versus Ark State
Cure: UCF versus Georgia State
Arizona: Georgia Southern versus Utah State

Haha are there enough bowl eligible teams? If so, app can’t go to the Belk Bowl. If not, then the 1st guys makes a lil more sense. But remember the talking heads & keyboard jockeys don’t understand how we & most G5’s place teams.

Bonagura's logic here is that Liberty will backfill the Sun Belt's absence in Arizona. The other four bowl commitments are filled and App fills in with the Belk Bowl. Generally speaking, these two at ESPN seem to lack knowledge of specific tie-ins and contracts but sometimes, later in the year, they have some inside knowledge of ideas that ESPN is pushing. There could be something to it or it could simply be a lack of understanding that the champ has to go to New Orleans. Or he knows that the champ goes to New Orleans, believes Louisiana wins, and that the Sun Belt/Charlotte/ESPN/ACC work out a deal to drop Arizona and get App into the Belk Bowl?

Depending on the opponent, App would probably bring 25,000 fans to the game itself. Obviously that would be a much better turnout than any other bowl destination currently. Myrtle Beach in 2020 could be an opportunity, depending on the opponent (AAC team priority/Sun Belt team priority) for a huge turnout from App fans. However, as we know now the champ goes to NOLA so you hope for a solid destination that changes against a championship. Championship wins out obviously.
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