(11-28-2019 10:58 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Hens are good this no doubt!

When Rowsom hit that shot, we went crazy!! What a great day that was because we lost like 4 games at the buzzer that year alone..SIU at the buzzer the next night after the Indiana game and the Mark Cline with Wake Forest that year too I think. It was meant to be. AS IT SHOULD BE! We lost in the CAA final by 3 to Navy I think and then Navy did damage or it was the year before. Regardless, we just had to have that shot at that time. What a great way to save a bad day up until the end.

Yeah the CAA final game was tough. Mark Gary took a three pointer at the end, which he missed. To this day I swear he was fouled but the ref "swallowed" his whistle. I guess the ref was trying to protect Robinson & navy.

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Charleston beat Providence today in Anaheim, CA.

Good for C of C with 2 great senior leaders! I'd expect nothing less.

And, I'm still mad that Mark Gary didn't get FT! A good game that we were right there. We were right there the year before with Navy as well and lost by 1. That was the year that Navy went to the Elite 8. The 86-87 team was a fun team because we knew we were good and won the rival game in the CAA's, but came just short in that final. Having a big like Rowsom as a senior was great because we knew that we could be anybody on a given night ( see IU/Wake et al) and won a bunch of games.

Heck, I saw him as a freshman and knew even then that he was amazing. You can coach your head off, but a big like that changes everything. Hawks need to go overseas to get a guy like that now or the staff needs to get a big under the radar that has potential.

W&M is facing Buffalo (3-2 vs D-I) as we speak. With 12:54 remaining in the contest, Buffalo leads it 59-47.

Delaware took care of business against UMES last night, 75-56, to remain undefeated at 8-0, (7-0 against D-I).

The Blue Hens' RPI is # 56 with 5 non-conference games remaining. Their current 3-game homestand concludes on Monday with a 7:00 contest against Columbia (2-5 vs D-I). A road game against George Washington and neutral court battle with # 22 Villanova come next.

JMU hosts ECU (2-5 vs D-I) today at 4:00. The Dukes are 3-3 against D-I foes and are looking to shake off their bad home loss to Coppin St. on Tuesday.

Drexel fell to UMBC today, 85-60, falling to 3-4 against D-I opponents.

Elon fell to 0-6 against D-I teams on Thanksgiving Thursday by losing at home to UTA (Texas-Arlington), 77-67. They've lost the first 3 games of their 4-game homestand, which concludes on Monday against Kennesaw St. (0-5 against D-I).

A look at our non-conference opponents and how they're doing:

* # 6 UNC (6-1) defeated # 11 Oregon yesterday in Nassau, 78-74. They went 2-1 at the Battle 4 Atlantis, defeating Alabama and the Ducks while losing to Michigan. Next up is Ohio State on Dec 4 in the ACC/Big 10 challenge.

* Vanderbilt (5-1), who we face in 3 weeks, has 4 tough games ahead prior to facing us, including Tulsa (5-1), Buffalo (3-2), and Liberty (8-0) all coming to Nashville before facing Loyola-Chicago (4-4) in Phoenix. The Commodores' only loss to date was a road OT defeat at the hands of Richmond (5-1).

* FIU (2-3 vs. D-I), our best win to date this season, faces New Hampshire (3-3 against D-I) today at 7:00. Their remaining non-conference D-I opponents are FGCU (1-6), Kennesaw St. (0-5), Stetson (2-4) and Minnesota (3-4).

* Davidson (3-4) has played a challenging non-conference slate. After beating Nevada (5-3) on Nov 19, they lost to Wake Forest and Marquette before defeating Fairfield (1-6) yesterday. Their next opponent is Northeastern on Dec 7.

* Charlotte (2-3) lost consecutive road games to Appalachian State (3-4) and Georgia State (3-3) over the last 2 weeks, with the latter being an overtime defeat by 3 points. This came on the heels of a big home win against Wake Forest, which also took overtime to complete. Next up are a pair of home games prior to facing us in Trask on Dec 7: SC Upstate (0-7) today at 4:00 and UNC Asheville (1-2) on Tuesday.

* Campbell (3-2) beat The Citadel and Jacksonville after their loss to us. They then lost the first game of the Hilton Garden Inn FGCU classic to Georgia Southern yesterday. They have two more games in that tournament, today against host FGCU and tomorrow against North Dakota (1-4).

* Cleveland State (2-4) beat Eastern Kentucky in their 2nd contest of the DC Classic, and faces Robert Morris (1-6) tonight at 6:00.

* Mercer (3-3), who we face on Dec 16, split the first 2 games of the Boca Raton Beach Classic, losing @ UIC (1-5) before defeating Saint Bonaventure (2-4) at home in the campus games of the tournament. Next up is the trip to Boca Raton where they'll face Canisius (3-2) tomorrow.

W&M is hanging around @ Buffalo. The Bulls lead it 69-60 with 7:26 remaining in the contest.

Nathan Knight has 20 points (7-9 shooting, 2-2 from 3), 7 rebounds and 3 assists so far.

Well, that's that. Buffalo running away with it. 86-69 Bulls with 2:21 left.

The CAA's Conference RPI ranking is at # 14, and will serve to drop with more losses like these.

The only prayer of a multi-bid year this season, as usual, is if someone like Delaware absolutely dominates the league and then loses in the CAA title game.

Not CAA but UNCG is about to knock off Georgetown. Don’t be shocked if they beat State here shortly


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JMU up 46-39 over ECU at the half.

(11-30-2019 04:02 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not CAA but UNCG is about to knock off Georgetown. Don’t be shocked if they beat State here shortly


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We Miller got a 7 year extension last year with a base salary of $301,000.

They had 14 steals in the game.

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

(11-30-2019 07:24 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

I agree on where we should be, that is a certainty. What is not a certainty was whether or not Siddle would be successful. Sure, he was K’s assistant but that doesn’t equal a hill of beans in terms of certainty which is why I said there was no guarantee in terms of success. Hell, we don’t even know if Siddle would have stuck with the same system (likely, but not guaranteed). On top of that K had already taken pieces and there’s no guarantee recruits would have stayed.

There’s a lot of moving parts there that you’re assuming would have played out perfectly.

Keatts is hardly successful at NCSU. Was he really ready for that jump? In the same light would Siddle who had relatively little coaching experience have been ready? Maybe. Maybe not.


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(11-30-2019 07:47 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:24 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

I agree on where we should be, that is a certainty. What is not a certainty was whether or not Siddle would be successful. Sure, he was K’s assistant but that doesn’t equal a hill of beans in terms of certainty which is why I said there was no guarantee in terms of success. Hell, we don’t even know if Siddle would have stuck with the same system (likely, but not guaranteed). On top of that K had already taken pieces and there’s no guarantee recruits would have stayed.

There’s a lot of moving parts there that you’re assuming would have played out perfectly.

Keatts is hardly successful at NCSU. Was he really ready for that jump? In the same light would Siddle who had relatively little coaching experience have been ready? Maybe. Maybe not.


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Have to agree with you here on one thing, there is no guarantee Siddle would have been successful. It's making a lot of assumptions to say he would. Very good Chance CJ takes off regardless, and hes the guy along with Vonte that could have kept him afloat.

I do though agree with 82, We should have hired a coach that would have at least floated one of the similar styles to what has worked for us recently. Honestly, The first questions I ask in the interview if i'm Bass is what do you envision your team being? What Style would you like to play?

(11-30-2019 07:47 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:24 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 05:21 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  They had 14 steals in the game.

Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

I agree on where we should be, that is a certainty. What is not a certainty was whether or not Siddle would be successful. Sure, he was K’s assistant but that doesn’t equal a hill of beans in terms of certainty which is why I said there was no guarantee in terms of success. Hell, we don’t even know if Siddle would have stuck with the same system (likely, but not guaranteed). On top of that K had already taken pieces and there’s no guarantee recruits would have stayed.

There’s a lot of moving parts there that you’re assuming would have played out perfectly.

Keatts is hardly successful at NCSU. Was he really ready for that jump? In the same light would Siddle who had relatively little coaching experience have been ready? Maybe. Maybe not.


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Have to agree with you here on one thing, there is no guarantee Siddle would have been successful. It's making a lot of assumptions to say he would. Very good Chance CJ takes off regardless, and hes the guy along with Vonte that could have kept him afloat.

I do though agree with 82, We should have hired a coach that would have at least floated one of the similar styles to what has worked for us recently. Honestly, The first questions I ask in the interview if i'm Bass is what do you envision your team being? What Style would you like to play?

(11-30-2019 07:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:47 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:24 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

I agree on where we should be, that is a certainty. What is not a certainty was whether or not Siddle would be successful. Sure, he was K’s assistant but that doesn’t equal a hill of beans in terms of certainty which is why I said there was no guarantee in terms of success. Hell, we don’t even know if Siddle would have stuck with the same system (likely, but not guaranteed). On top of that K had already taken pieces and there’s no guarantee recruits would have stayed.

There’s a lot of moving parts there that you’re assuming would have played out perfectly.

Keatts is hardly successful at NCSU. Was he really ready for that jump? In the same light would Siddle who had relatively little coaching experience have been ready? Maybe. Maybe not.


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Have to agree with you here on one thing, there is no guarantee Siddle would have been successful. It's making a lot of assumptions to say he would. Very good Chance CJ takes off regardless, and hes the guy along with Vonte that could have kept him afloat.

I do though agree with 82, We should have hired a coach that would have at least floated one of the similar styles to what has worked for us recently. Honestly, The first questions I ask in the interview if i'm Bass is what do you envision your team being? What Style would you like to play?

Bryce was just one piece. We lost an entire recruiting class and incoming transfers. Siddle at least offered a chance they would stay since they already knew him and the system we would be playing. And i know for a fact he would have kept the same system in place. And if not Siddle, there are plenty of coaches out there that run the press or at least assistants. The fact UNCG has had success they never had until they ran the press is only rubbing salt in the wound.

(11-30-2019 07:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:47 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:24 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(11-30-2019 07:14 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Still cannot believe UNCG has surpassed UNCW in basketball by copying our success using the press, as we abandonded it.

I see the point of your post, but technically we didn’t abandon it. It abandoned us. We didn’t choose to change coaches. That decision was made for us. There’s no evidence to say there was another coach out there available that would have played the same system with the same success.

Unlike UNCW’s mistakes abandoning Brownell basketball success, this wasn’t our doing.


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Siddle. And regardless of why, we moved away from a system that was successful completey, while UNCG picked up that same system and has now surpassed us. we had the players, we had the system for long term succes and we left it. It's a damned shame. No way UNCW should be behind UNCG in basketball.

I agree on where we should be, that is a certainty. What is not a certainty was whether or not Siddle would be successful. Sure, he was K’s assistant but that doesn’t equal a hill of beans in terms of certainty which is why I said there was no guarantee in terms of success. Hell, we don’t even know if Siddle would have stuck with the same system (likely, but not guaranteed). On top of that K had already taken pieces and there’s no guarantee recruits would have stayed.

There’s a lot of moving parts there that you’re assuming would have played out perfectly.

Keatts is hardly successful at NCSU. Was he really ready for that jump? In the same light would Siddle who had relatively little coaching experience have been ready? Maybe. Maybe not.


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Have to agree with you here on one thing, there is no guarantee Siddle would have been successful. It's making a lot of assumptions to say he would. Very good Chance CJ takes off regardless, and hes the guy along with Vonte that could have kept him afloat.

I do though agree with 82, We should have hired a coach that would have at least floated one of the similar styles to what has worked for us recently. Honestly, The first questions I ask in the interview if i'm Bass is what do you envision your team being? What Style would you like to play?

I agree with both of you on how the interviews should have gone and we should have attempted to stick with a style that made us successful. But that’s my point, we don’t know if that was available or not. There’s also no guarantee Siddle would have taken the job considering the alleged opinions of K as he went out the door.


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