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I think this team will end up being pretty good by the end of the year. Jeff will have these guys ready to make a run in the tournament. 2 things that are really getting to me...

1. Dickens had 0 rebounds. He needs to go to the bench and maybe see a minute or two of playing time. We have to find a way to keep him off the floor. I know people will say the depth at that position is a concern, but who cares? He can't rebound anyway, so get Reece, Kalu, and Carver out there for all of the minutes. Dickens is not a good player and shows 0 effort. His playing time needs to stop!

2. Godwin has to stop shooting those long two's. He has not made one all year. I am fine with him jacking up a ton of 3's, but these long 2's make no sense.

Number 1 needs to be addressed before number 2. Send him to the bench for the rest of the season! You need effort from this group to make a run.

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

(11-26-2019 08:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  I think this team will end up being pretty good by the end of the year. Jeff will have these guys ready to make a run in the tournament. 2 things that are really getting to me...

1. Dickens had 0 rebounds. He needs to go to the bench and maybe see a minute or two of playing time. We have to find a way to keep him off the floor. I know people will say the depth at that position is a concern, but who cares? He can't rebound anyway, so get Reece, Kalu, and Carver out there for all of the minutes. Dickens is not a good player and shows 0 effort. His playing time needs to stop!

2. Godwin has to stop shooting those long two's. He has not made one all year. I am fine with him jacking up a ton of 3's, but these long 2's make no sense.

Number 1 needs to be addressed before number 2. Send him to the bench for the rest of the season! You need effort from this group to make a run.

If you had told me before the season that Carver was our best front court player, I would say WHAT? But so far THIS year, he sure is. Can't complain about his rebounding. I see from yesterday's stats, he came close to double figures again. I'm very happy for that guy. Our other two big guys just have done next to nothing all year. Might be time for a heart to heart talk with the coaches.

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

Yep. X passed up a couple and Curry passed up at least one also.

(11-26-2019 08:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  I think this team will end up being pretty good by the end of the year. Jeff will have these guys ready to make a run in the tournament. 2 things that are really getting to me...

1. Dickens had 0 rebounds. He needs to go to the bench and maybe see a minute or two of playing time. We have to find a way to keep him off the floor. I know people will say the depth at that position is a concern, but who cares? He can't rebound anyway, so get Reece, Kalu, and Carver out there for all of the minutes. Dickens is not a good player and shows 0 effort. His playing time needs to stop!

2. Godwin has to stop shooting those long two's. He has not made one all year. I am fine with him jacking up a ton of 3's, but these long 2's make no sense.

Number 1 needs to be addressed before number 2. Send him to the bench for the rest of the season! You need effort from this group to make a run.

Kalu played 13 minutes and fouled out. To say depth is a concern would be an understatement at this point. Seems like the only player who can play that spot is AC.

(11-26-2019 09:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

Yep. X passed up a couple and Curry passed up at least one also.

This is not an anomaly. This has been a hallmark of JJ's teams. It seems the guys think to much rather than doing what is right in front of them.

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

We need to move the ball more on offense in general. The first few games it seemed we did that better and it opened up a lot more opportunities. We were also pushing the ball more. Recently they reverted to the dribble, pass, dribble take a bad shot offense we’ve seen in past years. And I agree a lot of the 3’s we are taking are not the ones we should be taking.

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Yeah buddy! Looking forward to going 1-5 against our old CAA foes.

Awesome....

(11-26-2019 08:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  I think this team will end up being pretty good by the end of the year. Jeff will have these guys ready to make a run in the tournament. 2 things that are really getting to me...

1. Dickens had 0 rebounds. He needs to go to the bench and maybe see a minute or two of playing time. We have to find a way to keep him off the floor. I know people will say the depth at that position is a concern, but who cares? He can't rebound anyway, so get Reece, Kalu, and Carver out there for all of the minutes. Dickens is not a good player and shows 0 effort. His playing time needs to stop!

2. Godwin has to stop shooting those long two's. He has not made one all year. I am fine with him jacking up a ton of 3's, but these long 2's make no sense.

Number 1 needs to be addressed before number 2. Send him to the bench for the rest of the season! You need effort from this group to make a run.

I don't know that effort is the issue with Dickens, but he has certainly been a disappointment so far. His rebounding rate is pathetic. His offense has been worse than last year. For now, let Kalu, Carver, and Reese take up the majority of minutes.

All players except for maybe Green should stop taking long 2s. Its just dumb.

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

Green and Godwin should have the green light to shoot anytime they are open behind the arc. I haven't seen enough from Curry yet but I suspect that he's not a good shooter. Wade seems to believe he can make 3s but I just don't think he can at this point. Hopefully Oliver helps in that respect.

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

I think teams are purposely laying off Wade because he cannot shoot a lick.

(11-26-2019 11:09 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(11-25-2019 11:28 PM)monarx Wrote:  I had Northeastern as a loss and had JMU and GMU as wins. Beat W&M and VCU and we are right back on schedule. Though I’m not optimistic about it.

I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

We need to move the ball more on offense in general. The first few games it seemed we did that better and it opened up a lot more opportunities. We were also pushing the ball more. Recently they reverted to the dribble, pass, dribble take a bad shot offense we’ve seen in past years. And I agree a lot of the 3’s we are taking are not the ones we should be taking.

I don't want to overreact to last night, but last nights offense was pathetic. He was also pathetic vs. UNI, but you can make the case that they have a pretty good defense.

THe 4 games in between them were ok... Offense vs. St Joes and Northeastern was good; adequate vs. JMU (1.02 ppp) and good enough to win vs. Loyola. But, .8 ppp against George Mason aint gonna cut it.

We look very soft. Which is disheartening. U can call ODU basketball a lot of things over the last 20 years. SOFT, especially up front, is never one of those things. Tired of the indecisive offense. Everyone ******* about JJ. Late in the game, Godwin has just hit a couple threes. We got a rebound and both Xavier and Curry passed up early open jump shots. Every coach including JJ was screaming for them to shoot the ball. Kids need to man up, they need an attitude adjustment. I actually think this team will be pretty damn good. But their record might be complete trash before that happens. I’m not sure they can beat anyone today... don’t feel good about this tournament or the entire non conference slate for that matter. Our best player can’t throw it in the ocean right now. Other than all that we look ok. Haha. Go Monarchs.

Need serious help in the post. Dickens is soft, zero rebounds yesterday when there was no shortage of missed shots. Carver is tough but undersized and limited offensively. Reese has potential but is still raw, and Kalu can't stay on the floor due to fouls. Is the big Greek eligible, injured, or just not ready?

(11-26-2019 01:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 08:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  I think this team will end up being pretty good by the end of the year. Jeff will have these guys ready to make a run in the tournament. 2 things that are really getting to me...

1. Dickens had 0 rebounds. He needs to go to the bench and maybe see a minute or two of playing time. We have to find a way to keep him off the floor. I know people will say the depth at that position is a concern, but who cares? He can't rebound anyway, so get Reece, Kalu, and Carver out there for all of the minutes. Dickens is not a good player and shows 0 effort. His playing time needs to stop!

2. Godwin has to stop shooting those long two's. He has not made one all year. I am fine with him jacking up a ton of 3's, but these long 2's make no sense.

Number 1 needs to be addressed before number 2. Send him to the bench for the rest of the season! You need effort from this group to make a run.

I don't know that effort is the issue with Dickens, but he has certainly been a disappointment so far. His rebounding rate is pathetic. His offense has been worse than last year. For now, let Kalu, Carver, and Reese take up the majority of minutes.

All players except for maybe Green should stop taking long 2s. Its just dumb.

You're kidding right? His effort is atrocious.

(11-26-2019 01:22 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  We look very soft. Which is disheartening. U can call ODU basketball a lot of things over the last 20 years. SOFT, especially up front, is never one of those things. Tired of the indecisive offense. Everyone ******* about JJ. Late in the game, Godwin has just hit a couple threes. We got a rebound and both Xavier and Curry passed up early open jump shots. Every coach including JJ was screaming for them to shoot the ball. Kids need to man up, they need an attitude adjustment. I actually think this team will be pretty damn good. But their record might be complete trash before that happens. I’m not sure they can beat anyone today... don’t feel good about this tournament or the entire non conference slate for that matter. Our best player can’t throw it in the ocean right now. Other than all that we look ok. Haha. Go Monarchs.

The team will be good by the end of the year, but it's going to take some time. I was worried about our leadership this year. X has horrific body language. We lost the ultimate leader last year.

(11-26-2019 01:14 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 11:09 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:30 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 09:16 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  I have watched VCU and W&M on TV and there is absolutely no way we win these games!

Richmond looks tough too, but we can beat any of them. This team has been good at times. The offense has got to get figured out, and it starts with tempo. I knew it was too much to hope for to see a JJ team running and getting early shots up, he just couldn't let it keep going. We are back to doing what JJ's teams always do offensively and don't have the players to play that way. That said, you have to rebound effectively to run, and that is a problem that is on the players right now. The front court is a disaster. I didn't expect much scoring in the post, but there is no reason that group shouldn't be able to get after it on the glass.

Finally, for the love of all things good can dudes stop passing up wide open 3 pointers. I know some will claim this is not on JJ, but we continually see this every year. It can't be coincidence. Players want to shoot. They have to be broken to (Curry & Green) pass up wide open 3 pointers for no reason at all.

BJ and Godwin seem to be the only ones unaffected by it recently. Last night on two straight possessions late in the game, they moved it around really well and Wade was left with a ton of space on the perimeter. He thought about it and passed off to the top of the key. On both possessions, we ended up with two prayers right at the end of the shot clock. Neither resulted in any points (one was blocked).

We need to move the ball more on offense in general. The first few games it seemed we did that better and it opened up a lot more opportunities. We were also pushing the ball more. Recently they reverted to the dribble, pass, dribble take a bad shot offense we’ve seen in past years. And I agree a lot of the 3’s we are taking are not the ones we should be taking.

I don't want to overreact to last night, but last nights offense was pathetic. He was also pathetic vs. UNI, but you can make the case that they have a pretty good defense.

THe 4 games in between them were ok... Offense vs. St Joes and Northeastern was good; adequate vs. JMU (1.02 ppp) and good enough to win vs. Loyola. But, .8 ppp against George Mason aint gonna cut it.

I think last night we were lacking in dribble penetration. A lot of that was due to Mason's defense. They did a good job of cutting off drives. In the previous games the penetration by Curry and Wade led to easy buckets or kickouts to Godwin and Green. It gave them better looks. We need more of that.

Wednesday 5:00 in George Town: Washington State (2-3). FloHoops

Results to date: Seattle (85-54); Santa Clara (62-70); Idaho State (72-61); Omaha (77-85); Nebraska (71-82).

Last game: It was close for a half, Nebraska led 37-34 at HT. But two 13-2 second half runs and 64% shooting were too much as Nebraska pulled away. Nebraska went 13-25 FTs or the margin would have been greater. CJ Elleby led the Cougars with 27 pts (9-21 FG, 2-7 3s, 7-7 FT) and Isaac Bonton added 17 (6-19 FG, 3-9 3s, 2-3 FT).

Stats: 73.4 pts (vs 70.4); .379 FG (.266 3s); .729 FT; -0.8 RB; A/TO= 1.3

Starters
F CJ Elleby (6-6 200 So). 32.4 min.; .477 FG (12-35 3s); .800 FT; 6.4 RB; 2.6 steals; 22.8 pts
F Allaz Kunc (6-8 200 So). 24.8 min.; .355 FG (5-16 3s); .778 FT; 5.6 RB; 1 block; 6.8 pts
F Jeff Pollard (6-9 240 Sr). 24.4 min.; .469 FG (4-13 3s); 1.000 FT; 4.8 RB; 8.2 pts
G Isaac Bonton (6-3 185 Jr). 33.0 min.; .341 FG (8-37 3s); .650 FT; 5.0 RB; 3.6 assists; 16.2 pts
G Jervae Robinson (6-2 185 Sr). 24.2 min.; .275 FG (4-17 3s); .667 FT; 3.2 RB; 1.5 steals; 5.6 pts

Bench
G Jaylen Shead (6-1 190 Sr). 25.0 min.; .381 FG (2-4 3s); .800 FT; 3.8 RB; 2.5 assists; 2 steals; 5.5 pts
G Noah Williams (6-5 190 Fr). 12.0 min.; .083 FG (0-3 3s); .500 FT; 3.0 RB; 0.8 pts
G Marvin Cannon (6-5 215 Jr). 9.4 min.; .214 FG (0-6 3s); .500 FT; 1.2 RB; 1.4 pts
F DJ Rodman (6-6 190 Fr). 8.8 min.; .375 FG (2-5 3s); 1.0 RB; 1.6 pts
F James Deion (6-8 220 Sr). 6.6 min.; .400 FG (0-1 3s); .833 FT; 0.8 RB; 2.6 pts

Washington State was picked 11th in the Pac-12 with a new coach and 12 newcomers to rebuild the program CJ Elleby was pre-season 1st team Pac-12 (Wooden and Julius Erving watch lists). WS avgs 7.6 steals and causes 15.6 TOs/g, but have shot poorly (take 27.8 3s/g). Elleby and Bonton take 49.2% of the Cougars shots.