Thru 11/17 Games

85 Liberty 4-0
150 NJIT 2-2
178 UNF 3-1
212 Lipscomb 1-3
271 Jacksonville 3-3
275 FGCU 0-4
279 UNA 2-2
323 KSU 0-3
330 Stetson 2-1

I know we aren’t in a great conference, but those numbers are abismal.

(11-18-2019 06:56 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I know we aren’t in a great conference, but those numbers are abismal.

What are the chances that a Division II school improves the numbers? That's what we are essentially banking on starting next year.

(11-18-2019 07:00 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  What are the chances that a Division II school improves the numbers? That's what we are essentially banking on starting next year.

No doubt. We can only hope for the best. It'd be nice if some of our current D1 teams could rise above the level of the bottom half... or even the bottom third. But it wasn't that long ago that Liberty was in that boat.

(11-18-2019 06:56 PM)army56mike Wrote:  I know we aren’t in a great conference, but those numbers are abismal.

You have to look at the very recent history of the conference, then look at the trend of the current lineup.


Many people seem to think KSU is on the brink of something special with their recruiting.

UNA is just in the second season of D1 play, and year 1 was primarily freshmen with a 1st year head coach.

UNF, FGCU (although very successful), KSU and UNA are all (relatively) new to D1 in general.

Bellarmine is great in D2, does it translate to D1? Remember, or FYI if you dont know, KSU was fresh off a D2 NC before moving to D1.

Liberty brings the conference up, so I would imagine the rest of the conference will up their game and get the conference stronger in the process.

NJIT has just built a new facility that will give them better recruiting.

I think the ASun, will end up being a great non power 5 conference in a few years. Just has to go through some growing pains.

A look at two other conferences (Big South & Southern) with ASUN teams included in. Obviously the SoCon is what we should be aspiring to.

85 LIBERTY
134 Radford
150 NEW JERSEY TECH
158 Winthrop
178 UNF
212 LIPSCOMB
217 Gardner Webb
231 Hampton
253 Campbell
271 JACKSONVILLE
273 UNC Asheville
275 FLORIDA GULF COAST
279 U NORTH ALABAMA
285 Longwood
287 Charleston Sou
308 Presbyterian
323 KENNESAW
332 High Point
330 STETSON

69 ETSU
71 Furman
85 LIBERTY
97 UNC Greens
128 Wofford
150 NEW JERSEY TECH
162 Samford
175 W. Carolina
178 NORTH FLORIDA
200 Mercer
212 LIPSCOMB
260 UTC
271 JACKSONVILLE
275 FLORIDA GULF COAST
279 U NORTH ALABAMA
307 VMI
315 Citadel
323 KENNESAW
330 STETSON

At least we beat Samford.

(11-19-2019 04:20 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  At least we beat Samford.

JU hosts Western Carolina on Thursday.

Thru 12/3

Liberty 75 +10 spots since 11/17
UNF 191 -13
Lipscomb 196 +16
NJIT 220 -70
JU 252 +19
UNA 276 +3
FGCU 313 -38
Stetson 317 +13
KSU 345 -22

NJIT experienced the biggest fall, a whopping 70 spots. JU the biggest gain (+19 spots). Liberty is clearly the class of the ASUN at #75 and 116 spots higher than the next closest UNF.

For those interested JU plays @Marquette on FS2 at 9:00 EST tonight.

Looked today, Monday 16 Dec.

71. Liberty
198. UNF
199. Lipscomb
223. Jacksonville
243. NJIT
275. UNA
318. FGCU
332. Stetson
335. Kennesaw St.
353. Last Place

NET Rankings
19. Liberty
175. Jacksonville
205. Lipscomb
209. UNF
223. UNA
299. NJIT
322. Stetson
334. FGCU
339. Kennesaw St.

AP Poll - #31 Liberty
Coache’s Poll - #36 Liberty

(12-16-2019 05:45 PM)army56mike Wrote:  AP Poll - #31 Liberty
Coache’s Poll - #36 Liberty

No respect....

They should be in the top 20...

(12-16-2019 09:28 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  No respect....

They should be in the top 20...

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I disagree. I don’t think we deserve Top 25 until we beat LSU and remain undefeated through North Florida at (21-0). Outside of Vandy we’ve literally played no one, and have one of the worst SOS in the nation.

(12-16-2019 11:10 PM)army56mike Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 09:28 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  No respect....

They should be in the top 20...

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I disagree. I don’t think we deserve Top 25 until we beat LSU and remain undefeated through North Florida at (21-0). Outside of Vandy we’ve literally played no one, and have one of the worst SOS in the nation.

Dont bring that crap, yall can beat anyone this year.

KENPOM: #57 (up 14 spots)
NET: #17 (up 2 spots)
BRACKETOLOGY: #10 Seed (up 1 spot)
AP POLL: #31 (no change)
COACH’S POLL: #41 (down 6 spots)

I’m not gonna list any other teams until there’s something positive to talk about.

(12-23-2019 06:33 PM)army56mike Wrote:  KENPOM: #57 (up 14 spots)
NET: #17 (up 2 spots)
BRACKETOLOGY: #10 Seed (up 1 spot)
AP POLL: #31 (no change)
COACH’S POLL: #41 (down 6 spots)

I’m not gonna list any other teams until there’s something positive to talk about.

Perhaps Liberty should look to the Big East. I am sure they would love to have u.

There is a reason that Liberty is in the ASUN.

(12-23-2019 08:07 PM)Courtside Wrote:  Perhaps Liberty should look to the Big East. I am sure they would love to have u.

There is a reason that Liberty is in the ASUN.

Don’t get mad. Just get better. I know it’s a rough time for JU sports.

No LU fans have any illusions of bigger conference affiliations right now. As a matter of fact, many of us are very happy in the ASun. I much prefer it to remaining in the Big South.

(12-23-2019 09:14 PM)army56mike Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 08:07 PM)Courtside Wrote:  Perhaps Liberty should look to the Big East. I am sure they would love to have u.

There is a reason that Liberty is in the ASUN.

Don’t get mad. Just get better. I know it’s a rough time for JU sports.

No LU fans have any illusions of bigger conference affiliations right now. As a matter of fact, many of us are very happy in the ASun. I much prefer it to remaining in the Big South.

I would like to see the ASUN just get better. It has a high ceiling, we just have to start winning the OOC games against similar conferences, competing with the big conference's (and winning some of those).

I love how UNA has, and will continue to schedule OOC games, but we need to start winning on the road. We tend to compete well against the "big" schools, just to turn around and get beat by a not very good team.

I dont know what's going on with FGCU.

Hopefully, the new facility that JU is building will help them.

Lipscomb will be okay going into the future. They have a great coach that I have payed lots of attention to over the years, he will build a strong, consistent program.

KSU may be a couple of years away from something real good.

Bellarmine will build a good D1 program.


Quick question, honestly, would an 11th or even 12th school help the conference or not? Would it just be extra mouths to feed, or do numbers help?

(12-23-2019 09:14 PM)army56mike Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 08:07 PM)Courtside Wrote:  Perhaps Liberty should look to the Big East. I am sure they would love to have u.

There is a reason that Liberty is in the ASUN.

Don’t get mad. Just get better. I know it’s a rough time for JU sports.

No LU fans have any illusions of bigger conference affiliations right now. As a matter of fact, many of us are very happy in the ASun. I much prefer it to remaining in the Big South.

I am not mad about anything.

I find it hard to believe that anyone feels that the ASUN & Liberty are a great fit. Seems like a lot of underachieving given LU's resources/biz model.

As for rough times at JU, I am very sure you are incorrect.