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(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".
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(11-11-2019 07:19 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  What has happened to this thread?

They're arguing about week 15, but weeks 10 and 11 aren't in yet.04-cheers
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(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.
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updated with week 11.

already talked of course with LSU/Alabama.

Penn St/Minnesota gets #9 on the list right now. As of today top 4 Big Ten games have all been on ABC. That'll change some with Penn St/Ohio St and Ohio St/Michigan- but still- ABC does really well with the Big Ten package they have.
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RE: 2019 College Football TV ratings top 10
Remaining games that might make the season-ending top 10:

Penn St - Ohio St
Ohio St - Michigan
Alabama - Auburn
SEC CCG
Big Ten CCG

CBS is likely to have the 3 most-watched games of the season and 5 of the top 10. If one of those games above doesn't bump out Georgia - Florida, then CBS might have 6 of the top 10. The SEC is going to get paid when the new TV contract for that package of games is done.

Fox's best Big Ten games are all at the end of the year, and they will likely have 4 of the final top 10. ABC will have just LSU-Texas in the top 10 unless there's an unexpectedly high rating for a game they will air from here on out.
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(11-12-2019 12:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining games that might make the season-ending top 10:

Penn St - Ohio St
Ohio St - Michigan
Alabama - Auburn
SEC CCG
Big Ten CCG

CBS is likely to have the 3 most-watched games of the season and 5 of the top 10. If one of those games above doesn't bump out Georgia - Florida, then CBS might have 6 of the top 10. The SEC is going to get paid when the new TV contract for that package of games is done.

Fox's best Big Ten games are all at the end of the year, and they will likely have 4 of the final top 10. ABC will have just LSU-Texas in the top 10 unless there's an unexpectedly high rating for a game they will air from here on out.

I would add Auburn/Georgia this Saturday to the list as well. Also, Army/Navy always gets a good number..... Both could easily get over 7.25 million....

The only 3 games that are locks right now- LSU/Alabama, Notre Dame/Georgia, and LSU/Texas.

Would add that ABC should get Wisconsin/Minnesota last week of season which could wind up being a huge game....
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(11-12-2019 12:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining games that might make the season-ending top 10:

Penn St - Ohio St
Ohio St - Michigan
Alabama - Auburn
SEC CCG
Big Ten CCG

CBS is likely to have the 3 most-watched games of the season and 5 of the top 10. If one of those games above doesn't bump out Georgia - Florida, then CBS might have 6 of the top 10. The SEC is going to get paid when the new TV contract for that package of games is done.

Fox's best Big Ten games are all at the end of the year, and they will likely have 4 of the final top 10. ABC will have just LSU-Texas in the top 10 unless there's an unexpectedly high rating for a game they will air from here on out.

I think some of that is also dependent on if the Big 12 championship is RRS #2 or if it is OU-Baylor.

If it is 11-1 Baylor and 11-1 OU both with a chance at CFP, that could also cause the Big 12 CCG to sneak enter the top 10. If it is RRS#2 I also think it could sneak into the bottom half of the top 10.
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(11-12-2019 12:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with week 11.

already talked of course with LSU/Alabama.

Penn St/Minnesota gets #9 on the list right now. As of today top 4 Big Ten games have all been on ABC. That'll change some with Penn St/Ohio St and Ohio St/Michigan- but still- ABC does really well with the Big Ten package they have.

Surprised Penn St./Minnesota got up there. Just shows that fans will watch quality (ie high ranked matchups) even without both being name brands.

But name brands help. Top 8 include:
LSU-3
Notre Dame-2
Georgia-2
Texas-2
Auburn-2
Alabama
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Florida
Oregon
Michigan
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(11-12-2019 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Remaining games that might make the season-ending top 10:

Penn St - Ohio St
Ohio St - Michigan
Alabama - Auburn
SEC CCG
Big Ten CCG

CBS is likely to have the 3 most-watched games of the season and 5 of the top 10. If one of those games above doesn't bump out Georgia - Florida, then CBS might have 6 of the top 10. The SEC is going to get paid when the new TV contract for that package of games is done.

Fox's best Big Ten games are all at the end of the year, and they will likely have 4 of the final top 10. ABC will have just LSU-Texas in the top 10 unless there's an unexpectedly high rating for a game they will air from here on out.

I would add Auburn/Georgia this Saturday to the list as well. Also, Army/Navy always gets a good number..... Both could easily get over 7.25 million....

The only 3 games that are locks right now- LSU/Alabama, Notre Dame/Georgia, and LSU/Texas.

Would add that ABC should get Wisconsin/Minnesota last week of season which could wind up being a huge game....
Auburn-Georgia (13 vs. 5) and OU-Baylor (8/10 vs. 10/12) have a good chance to crack the lower half of top 10. It will be interesting to see how Navy-Notre Dame does with both teams ranked.
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Alabama has been the biggest draw over the last few years. Ohio St. has been second. Its a testimony to the weakness of their schedules to date that each is so poorly represented at the top of the TV rankings this year. LSU was Alabama's first elite opponent and Ohio St. has just had Wisconsin. Texas A&M at #24 was Alabama's only other opponent ranked at the time. Ohio St. just had #25 MSU and #13 Wisconsin.
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And that's while three teams in the Top 10 play on other channels.
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I guess the other thing with CCGs to me is they are stil played on a regular season week. If a conference drops a CCG, they schedule regular games that week and did until everyone ended up with one. Still get idea it is an extra game played into though.
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(11-12-2019 11:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.

It can be postseason and still impact the playoff. Postseason does not mean the same thing as playoff.
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bottom line, you go look anywhere for lists of top regular season games. They ALWAYS include the CCG's....
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(11-12-2019 11:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.

No, as explained, that's a poor addendum to my catchphrase.
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(11-12-2019 02:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with week 11.

already talked of course with LSU/Alabama.

Penn St/Minnesota gets #9 on the list right now. As of today top 4 Big Ten games have all been on ABC. That'll change some with Penn St/Ohio St and Ohio St/Michigan- but still- ABC does really well with the Big Ten package they have.

Surprised Penn St./Minnesota got up there. Just shows that fans will watch quality (ie high ranked matchups) even without both being name brands.

I'm not. Penn State is a big brand name obviously, and second Minnesota is a flagship with a big following. It's just been dormant because they are lousy. But any B1G game between unbeatens this late in the season is going to draw big viewers.

A game between Alabama and an 8-0 Ole Miss would have done the same.
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(11-13-2019 08:09 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.

It can be postseason and still impact the playoff. Postseason does not mean the same thing as playoff.

I'd say that "playoffs" are a special kind of postseason games that involve more than 2 teams and more than one round and result in a single champion. CCGs and bowl games (aside from those in the CFP) are certainly postseason games, but are one-offs and not really playoffs. Playoffs are akin to a tournament, although I think "tournament" implies playoffs with a large scope.
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(11-13-2019 08:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:09 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 12:01 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How's this definition?

Regular Season: games in which the teams are scheduled before the season even begins.

Post Season: games in which you don't know which teams will be in them until the regular season is over (or nearly over).

I'm ignoring any verbiage in the NCAA rule book and just using the common definition employed in other sports and/or other levels of football.

Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.

It can be postseason and still impact the playoff. Postseason does not mean the same thing as playoff.

I'd say that "playoffs" are a special kind of postseason games that involve more than 2 teams and more than one round and result in a single champion. CCGs and bowl games (aside from those in the CFP) are certainly postseason games, but are one-offs and not really playoffs. Playoffs are akin to a tournament, although I think "tournament" implies playoffs with a large scope.

Well said. You hit the nail on how "steveR" has been mistaken. He has assumed that if it's not a playoff game its not postseason. But that's obviously not true as bowl games are postseason and most aren't playoffs. Don't have to be a playoff to be postseason, and CCGs are postseason.
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(11-13-2019 08:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:23 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:09 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Yes, you have a very common-sense and logical definition of "regular season".

I think it is captured by the catchphrase I told "steveR" about:

"If you have to earn your way into it, it's not a regular season game".

And if it impacts playoff selection, it's a regular season game. And it clearly impacts playoff selection.

It can be postseason and still impact the playoff. Postseason does not mean the same thing as playoff.

I'd say that "playoffs" are a special kind of postseason games that involve more than 2 teams and more than one round and result in a single champion. CCGs and bowl games (aside from those in the CFP) are certainly postseason games, but are one-offs and not really playoffs. Playoffs are akin to a tournament, although I think "tournament" implies playoffs with a large scope.

Well said. You hit the nail on how "steveR" has been mistaken. He has assumed that if it's not a playoff game its not postseason. But that's obviously not true as bowl games are postseason and most aren't playoffs. Don't have to be a playoff to be postseason, and CCGs are postseason.

sorry but you are wrong...... when are the playoffs selected? That, and only that is the cut off for the end of the regular season.....

Go look anywhere else and they ALL include conference championship games in the regular season....
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Those numbers show the sweet deal CBS has with the SEC.

The LSU/Alabama game out-drew 4 of the 6 NBA Finals games this year, and 6 of the 7 World Series games this year.

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