(11-09-2019 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

Right. What's more is to ask who is each schools signature win? Texas may be a 4 loss team by the end of the regular season and Auburn could be as well (although Auburn's losses will be much higher quality than Texas's losses).
So Alabama will have lost to L.S.U. by 6.
Oregon will have lost to Auburn which in these projections will have lost to Alabama.
Oklahoma will only have 1 somewhat quality win, Texas. And I'm sorry but I watched Baylor win two games by lousy replay reviews and eek by in others. So if Oklahoma plays Baylor in the CCG and wins that won't exactly be a quality win on a national scale.

Oregon and Oklahoma both have issues with their resume'. And without question if they all end with 1 loss Alabama's loss will be the best loss. The rest is fairly lousy for all 3.

Auburn is not dropping out of the top 25 for a long time if the committee is doing what I think they are. Auburn has the #1 sos with no bad losses and that carries a ton of weight. This helps Oregon as long as Oregon wins out. If they win out and are conference champions, I'm pretty sure they will be top 4.

(11-09-2019 08:45 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

Right. What's more is to ask who is each schools signature win? Texas may be a 4 loss team by the end of the regular season and Auburn could be as well (although Auburn's losses will be much higher quality than Texas's losses).
So Alabama will have lost to L.S.U. by 6.
Oregon will have lost to Auburn which in these projections will have lost to Alabama.
Oklahoma will only have 1 somewhat quality win, Texas. And I'm sorry but I watched Baylor win two games by lousy replay reviews and eek by in others. So if Oklahoma plays Baylor in the CCG and wins that won't exactly be a quality win on a national scale.

Oregon and Oklahoma both have issues with their resume'. And without question if they all end with 1 loss Alabama's loss will be the best loss. The rest is fairly lousy for all 3.

Auburn is not dropping out of the top 25 for a long time if the committee is doing what I think they are. Auburn has the #1 sos with no bad losses and that carries a ton of weight. This helps Oregon as long as Oregon wins out. If they win out and are conference champions, I'm pretty sure they will be top 4.

SOS and no signature wins will be the Ducks problem. Look no matter how you cut it when it comes down to the committee and they are looking a 1 loss Oklahoma (KState) 1 loss Oregon (Auburn) and 1 loss Alabama (L.S.U.) and they look at the SOS Alabama's will still be higher and the eye test that we all know they give whether they admit it or not will come into play. And we haven't even touched on the national audience difference which is another factor that they don't discuss, but based on past selections its fairly evident it is a consideration.

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

LSU scored more points on Alabama than they did on Texas. That doesn't hurt OU that Texas beat KSU. The committee liked KSU's defense, but the bettors favored Texas.

(11-09-2019 07:48 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  LSU was a little too excited at the end.

I agree. They should have acted like this:

They were celebrating like they won a playoff game. They will be flat next week.

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Two things going against that idea. First, assuming no more upsets, Oregon has 12 straight wins and a top 10 win over Utah in the championship game. Alabama's best win will be over Auburn and they will be 11-1. Secondly, Oklahoma has a difficult time getting past Oregon. That was a bad loss to Kansas State, which was not helped by KState's loss to Texas.

At home today, Alabama gave up 46 points and 559 yards in a game they never led and trailed by double digits most of the game. That was not impressive. If I was on the committee, the only way I would give the SEC a second team is if Georgia beats LSU in the championship game. Then I think, a one loss LSU gets the nod over a one-loss Oregon and a one-loss Oklahoma. But Alabama's schedule does not warrant a playoff appearance.

(11-09-2019 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:45 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

Right. What's more is to ask who is each schools signature win? Texas may be a 4 loss team by the end of the regular season and Auburn could be as well (although Auburn's losses will be much higher quality than Texas's losses).
So Alabama will have lost to L.S.U. by 6.
Oregon will have lost to Auburn which in these projections will have lost to Alabama.
Oklahoma will only have 1 somewhat quality win, Texas. And I'm sorry but I watched Baylor win two games by lousy replay reviews and eek by in others. So if Oklahoma plays Baylor in the CCG and wins that won't exactly be a quality win on a national scale.

Oregon and Oklahoma both have issues with their resume'. And without question if they all end with 1 loss Alabama's loss will be the best loss. The rest is fairly lousy for all 3.

Auburn is not dropping out of the top 25 for a long time if the committee is doing what I think they are. Auburn has the #1 sos with no bad losses and that carries a ton of weight. This helps Oregon as long as Oregon wins out. If they win out and are conference champions, I'm pretty sure they will be top 4.

SOS and no signature wins will be the Ducks problem. Look no matter how you cut it when it comes down to the committee and they are looking a 1 loss Oklahoma (KState) 1 loss Oregon (Auburn) and 1 loss Alabama (L.S.U.) and they look at the SOS Alabama's will still be higher and the eye test that we all know they give whether they admit it or not will come into play. And we haven't even touched on the national audience difference which is another factor that they don't discuss, but based on past selections its fairly evident it is a consideration.

Going off what I see their current sos is #9 and it will be more favorable at the end of the year than Alabama and Oklahoma. Could be more favorable than Georgia's too, can't assume conference championship games and who they will play.

I'm looking at a composite site on sos. People can not like my opinion, but I'm not taking ESPN's BS serious or their fake FPI. Nor am I making up numbers, I believe in what I'm seeing and that's what I base my comments off of. I really don't care if Oregon or Oklahoma get in, just calling it fairly.

It's also hard for me to give Alabama the respect so many think they deserve THIS YEAR. LSU and Auburn are the only 2 games that they will be tested and they've lost to the former at home. Say what you want about Ohio State's schedule, everybody outside of ESPN thinks it's pretty solid, if it was showing that their schedule sucked, I'd say so as well.

(11-09-2019 08:33 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Oregon with the inside track.

But what about 12-1 LSU and 12-1 UGa SEC Champ?

Then LSU is your 4th team over Oregon unless they get blown out by the Dogs.

Oregon needs help and Bama needs a prayer.

PS: With the aforementioned scenario, I’m thinking:

OSU vs LSU Fiesta
Clemson UGa Peach

LSU and Georgia probably both get in based on quality wins. On the other hand, Appalachian St. is beating South Carolina right now.

(11-09-2019 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

Right. What's more is to ask who is each schools signature win? Texas may be a 4 loss team by the end of the regular season and Auburn could be as well (although Auburn's losses will be much higher quality than Texas's losses).

Assuming both lose 4:
LSU vs. LSU same
OU vs. Alabama comparable
Baylor vs. Florida comparable.
TCU vs. Georgia-advantage Auburn.

So your "losses" much higher quality is false. 1 out of 4 is much higher.

(11-09-2019 09:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:38 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You think OSU is going to lose to Clemson?

Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

LSU scored more points on Alabama than they did on Texas. That doesn't hurt OU that Texas beat KSU. The committee liked KSU's defense, but the bettors favored Texas.

Sure it hurts OU, it's a ranked team that they lost to that now may not be ranked at all. OU is a 1-loss team and all these little things matter a lot.

Big 12 refs just picked up a flagrant PI flag against OU on 3rd down that would have set Iowa St. up about the OU 35 with 2:30 left in half, down 14.

Makes you wonder if they were protecting OU.

On the positive side, the replay booth reversed a targeting call against Iowa St. on the succeeding punt. It was technical targeting, but the ISU player was aiming with his shoulder for the returners knees when the OU returner ducked his head down to knee level trying to avoid tackle. Net result was side of ISU's helmet hit front of OU's helmet knocking it off. The returner's moves caused the contact.

thought it was interesting- missed a lot of gameday but at the end during picks segment Hurts was mentioned and the Alabama fans cheered....

Just called PI on ISU that allowed OU to get TD with seconds left in half.

Technical PI, but I never see it called anymore. ISU player had position and had minor contact to chest.

OU may have been gifted 14 points in first half. Earlier they called back an ISU TD but I didn't see that play. ISU scored anyway.

(11-09-2019 09:50 PM)bullet Wrote:  Just called PI on ISU that allowed OU to get TD with seconds left in half.

Technical PI, but I never see it called anymore. ISU player had position and had minor contact to chest.

OU may have been gifted 14 points in first half. Earlier they called back an ISU TD but I didn't see that play. ISU scored anyway.

I disagree. that's called PI all the time.

(11-09-2019 09:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:50 PM)bullet Wrote:  Just called PI on ISU that allowed OU to get TD with seconds left in half.

Technical PI, but I never see it called anymore. ISU player had position and had minor contact to chest.

OU may have been gifted 14 points in first half. Earlier they called back an ISU TD but I didn't see that play. ISU scored anyway.

I disagree. that's called PI all the time.

Not the last 2-3 years. They let players get away with a lot now. Its got to be pretty flagrant. And OU's that they picked up was far worse than the ISU PI.

Congrats to LSU, their fans, and Coach O. Great win.

a tweet of the night-

(11-09-2019 09:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  Big 12 refs just picked up a flagrant PI flag against OU on 3rd down that would have set Iowa St. up about the OU 35 with 2:30 left in half, down 14.

Makes you wonder if they were protecting OU.

On the positive side, the replay booth reversed a targeting call against Iowa St. on the succeeding punt. It was technical targeting, but the ISU player was aiming with his shoulder for the returners knees when the OU returner ducked his head down to knee level trying to avoid tackle. Net result was side of ISU's helmet hit front of OU's helmet knocking it off. The returner's moves caused the contact.

They lost their flag on that final 2pt conversion attempt

(11-09-2019 09:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:48 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  LSU was a little too excited at the end.

I agree. They should have acted like this:

They were celebrating like they won a playoff game. They will be flat next week.

I'm sorry but I must have missed the part where the media hyped this game up to be "THE GAME OF THE CENTURY!!!" That's bigger than a playoff game. Thank the college football gurus for putting more emphasis on a regular season game then the playoffs.

I saw a lot of emotion from some players and so what some of the players were celebrating. You been told all week Bama is better than you. LSU hadn't beaten them in 8 yrs. They had a right to be happy.

Stop being sensitive, Bama will be back. The committee will make sure of this.

Alabama vs. PAC 12 champ

If Oregon and Utah don't lose anymore till the championship game, than the PAC 12 champ is guaranteed a better win than any win on Alabama's schedule

Alabama will be sitting at home while Oregon/Utah beat a top 10 team

That clearly pushes the PAC 12 champ into the playoff IMO

Alabama's SOS is only getting worse. Arkansas was manhandled by Western Kentucky. South Carolina lost to App State. Duke lost to Notre Dame. Western Carolina won't help their case

Alabama needs LOTS of help

Baylor and Minnesota run the table would be the best scenario. No freaking OSU and Bama unless Clemson loses. SEC Champ probably finishes #1.