Final take

1. Jake Bogggs was the most impressive player on our team to me. Good offensive game overall, active movement on the court to get to rebounds, looked to impose his will on his defender and looked to shut down the guy he was guarding. Just seemed like a smart, aggressive player.

2. Linssen, as our only true big man, has got to me more involved in our offense if he's going to get significant PT. In 21 minutes of play, he only took 2 shots. I was afraid the pace of play we are going to run with 4 guards was going to leave him trailing the game, and that looks to be the case. Our 4 guard offense under Keatts worked because Cacok could run the floor and finish at the rim on the run, then get back on defense. I'd look for Dodd to get more PT at this pace.

3. Simms and Estime were both solid but not dominating. They really should both be starters, but they need to be suffocating defenders and offensive killers for us to be a winning team.

4. We shot 64.5% from the FT line with a team full of guards. That's awful.

5. Tolefree and Bowen are non factors. With all the high hopes projected on both of them, it's just not there.

6. Won the rebounding battle 45-40. Is that a win?

As far as style of play. I've said it a thousand times, so why not one more? We have got to press to win with this team. Period. If we were going to press this year, this would have been an ideal game to kick the tires and try it out. We didn't, so I guess we're going to do the same thing and hope for a different outcome with no interior defensive presence.

I now believe Boggs needs to start. He at least tries to block shots and he is aggressive around the rim. We need that.

Revised starting squad.

Toews, Okauru, Simms, Boggs, Dodd

Phillips, Estime, Skaggs, Linssen off the bench.

I feel like Simms, Boggs and Dodd, could do some work in the post on offense and defense and could also get out on the break and finish.

We need to press.

Sims was clearly the best player overall last night in my opinion. Estime looked pretty good too. Boggs played well-like his hops. Phillips’s game is good too. We know about Kai’s game. Need for Mike to get to beast mode on both ends-seems capable. Dodd will help the team-best ball ahead of him as with other freshmen.

I too would love to see more pressure 82.

The best defensive lineup I saw last night was

Phillips
Estime
Boggs
Sims
Dodd

That length 2-4 was giving them real problems. Phillips was being a menace on the ball and Dodd was being physical down low. That might not be our starting unit but it’s a unit I would hope to see quite a bit this season.

(11-05-2019 05:51 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 03:51 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 12:26 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 10:46 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 08:55 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I think it's all about the effort tonight. If we come out and play the way we should, it should be 30-40 point victory. From what I've heard about the UNCP game, the team lacked effort and played soft. With our size Rebounding is going to be an issue for us all season, so playing soft is the last thing we can afford to do. Last but not least, has our 3 point defense improved? Apparently this team likes to shoot a lot of threes and has a couple of guys that can fill it up. How well will we defend them or will we hear the "they made some tough shots." quote

I talked with several players and ask them flat out if this was the case and they laughed at it. Where did you hear this ? Soft and lack of effort is a very strong statement to put on a team in any game or even practice for that matter. So I would love to know who say this?

One more question. Why in the world were you asking them that particular question? Seems like maybe others had the same impression if you heard about it to the point you asked about it. And, if they laughed it off, what did they say was the problem? Inquiring minds want to know....

Why not ask that question ? The better question is why post that when we all know its straight BS . You guys are supposed to be fans but all you really do is rag the team,coach,etc and the damn season has not even started. I'm not sure why you bother with it all if what you bring to the table is hate. Find something else to do that you might actually enjoy.

You wouldn't have asked the question had you not heard it yourself. So spare us the holier than thou attitude. The description came from somone at the game...which you obviously were not. Your opinion therefore means squat....

Coming from someone like you I take that as a compliment. You should consider not following UNCW at all since it seems to just make you more miserable by the day. Keatts could use a few more fans in Raleigh-might wanna think about that.

Gents. Let's relax on that before either of you say something worse. Your points were made, no need to escalate further.

(11-05-2019 08:37 PM)Boogie Woogie Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 08:06 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:56 PM)Boogie Woogie Wrote:  Can someone explain to a knucklehead like me why the powers to be decided flosports was a better option than CAA.TV, ESPN+ or CBS? I considered buying the package for about 5 seconds and then decided against it. I understand CAA.TV is free, but surely they made money from advertising. To pay $30.00 a month for 5 months or $150.00 a year is ridiculous to watch one team's games for a season. Isn't ESPN+ like $5 a month? I could be wrong, but pretty sure it use to be. By the way on the 6.2% Columbia Craft IPA's here in Columbia, SC tonight. Taking it easy for a Tuesday, but Friday I'll be lining the beer cans up at my feet in Trask.

CAA was paid 7 figures to put virtually are their games on Flo. The broadcasts are the same that you would see on CAA.TV. They then used that Flo money to buy a package on CBSSN to get some games on national TV.

The consensus around here seems to be ESPN+ would have been a better

Also Flo is $12.50/month if you use this link Flosports.tv/caa

Thanks Solo!

The $30.00 a month is for a package that includes non-CAA games, and I don't know if it includes CAA games or just other games. I wouldn't have paid $30.00 a month. The $12.50 a month is a CAA package that includes all non-televised Men's Basketball games at CAA teams along with most or all Football games and some games in other sports that are divided between free on CAA.TV and Flo. If you pay for Flo you can watch the Men's Soccer Tournament (and Women's Soccer Final if you care about JMU at Hofstra).

You had ten players play 14 to 23 minutes. Having a 9 minute range from highest to tenth highest is something Hofstra has a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of doing.

You got 5 points in the Preseason Mid-Major Poll. You were the only CAA team other than Charleston (17th), Hofstra (1st in Others Receiving Votes/26th overall), and Northeastern (3rd in Others Receiving Votes/28th overall) to get points.

(11-06-2019 10:23 AM)EvanJ Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 08:37 PM)Boogie Woogie Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 08:06 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 07:56 PM)Boogie Woogie Wrote:  Can someone explain to a knucklehead like me why the powers to be decided flosports was a better option than CAA.TV, ESPN+ or CBS? I considered buying the package for about 5 seconds and then decided against it. I understand CAA.TV is free, but surely they made money from advertising. To pay $30.00 a month for 5 months or $150.00 a year is ridiculous to watch one team's games for a season. Isn't ESPN+ like $5 a month? I could be wrong, but pretty sure it use to be. By the way on the 6.2% Columbia Craft IPA's here in Columbia, SC tonight. Taking it easy for a Tuesday, but Friday I'll be lining the beer cans up at my feet in Trask.

CAA was paid 7 figures to put virtually are their games on Flo. The broadcasts are the same that you would see on CAA.TV. They then used that Flo money to buy a package on CBSSN to get some games on national TV.

The consensus around here seems to be ESPN+ would have been a better

Also Flo is $12.50/month if you use this link Flosports.tv/caa

Thanks Solo!

You had ten players play 14 to 23 minutes. Having a 9 minute range from highest to tenth highest is something Hofstra has a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of doing.

That will not be not be the normal rotation, given the influx of new players and the opponent CB is trying to figure things out. I would like to see a 9 man rotation with Tolefree being the odd man out of the 10 you mention.

One bad game and he has no shot?

(11-06-2019 11:04 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  One bad game and he has no shot?

Not what I meant at all, but at some point CB is going to have to trim the rotation down. Tolefree looked uncomfortable last night and with the way Boggs, Phillips, and Skaggs played he's currently the odd man out. I'd imagine CB will still go 10 deep against UNC, so Tolefree should get another chance to prove himself.

(11-06-2019 11:04 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  One bad game and he has no shot?

Someone is going to be the odd man out. Tolefree will have better days but he needed to show a little more against the likes of Johnson & Wales.

Personally, I like him a little more than Carter Skaggs. Skaggs will be a solid rebounder, which is important when you're running with 4 guards, but he's going to be prone to taking a lot of contested jumpers. We don't need that. Taking every shot you can may work against JWU but it won't work at the Division I level. But we'll see.

Defense is the concern with Skaggs. Like his jumper.

(11-06-2019 11:36 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Defense is the concern with Skaggs. Like his jumper.

I agree, but he's a big body on a team that lacks them. If he can rebound like he did last night against better competition, he'll be a mainstay in the rotation.

Got to not get blown by or guard slower big

(11-06-2019 12:23 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Got to not get blown by or guard slower big

Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

(11-06-2019 12:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

JWU is actually lower than D-II. They're non-scholarship and play outside of the NCAA. I'd liken them to a good D-III team.

(11-06-2019 12:42 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

JWU is actually lower than D-II. They're non-scholarship and play outside of the NCAA. I'd liken them to a good D-III team.

(11-06-2019 12:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:42 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

JWU is actually lower than D-II. They're non-scholarship and play outside of the NCAA. I'd liken them to a good D-III team.

We defeated NC Wesleyan 105-81 in the first game of the 2017 season. NC Wesleyan is DIII. That's what last night reminded me of.

(11-06-2019 01:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:42 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

JWU is actually lower than D-II. They're non-scholarship and play outside of the NCAA. I'd liken them to a good D-III team.

We defeated NC Wesleyan 105-81 in the first game of the 2017 season. NC Wesleyan is DIII. That's what last night reminded me of.

Probably a fair comparison. We really won't know what we look like until next week when we start playing some similar to conf competition

(11-06-2019 01:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 01:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:42 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(11-06-2019 12:33 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Give up 80+ to a D2, i'm guessing it's not just his D that's a problem.

JWU is actually lower than D-II. They're non-scholarship and play outside of the NCAA. I'd liken them to a good D-III team.

We defeated NC Wesleyan 105-81 in the first game of the 2017 season. NC Wesleyan is DIII. That's what last night reminded me of.

Probably a fair comparison. We really won't know what we look like until next week when we start playing some similar to conf competition

That was my exact thought waking up this morning. We expected a win last night. We got it. I expect us to get blown out on Friday. Anything different would be a surprise. Next week is where the rubber meets the road and we see what year three of McGrath will be like.

Was it me or did the team and bench seem more enthusiastic than last year? Maybe because it was the first game and the losses haven’t piled on, but this team seems to be on the same page at least. Hopeful for the best.

Also, the starting 5 started great and then McGrath started subbing and that’s when J&W made a run to keep it relatively close in the first half. The team started the 2nd half on a run and then the mass subbing started. Linseen was actively involved in the offense and then the rest of the game disappeared with us not trying to get the ball inside and just jacking up 3s. It felt like last year when we tried to play fast just to play fast. Hopefully Coach was still using this game to see which lineups work together.