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RE: As I watch MNF and Matthew Stafford, I can't help but think about Brady White
(10-15-2019 01:30 AM)Stammers Wrote: (10-14-2019 11:01 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (10-14-2019 10:11 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote: I watch entirely too much football.
I lived in Georgia for 15 years, and saw Matt Stafford's first games as a QB for the bulldogs and was entirely unimpressed. My first game in person in Athens, he turned the ball over 3-4 times against Miss. State, but had a lot of great stats.
Stafford went on to get a lot better, and filled up the passing statistical records at Georgia.
But Stafford is also known as a Stat compiler in the NFL, the best quarterback to never win a playoff game.
That brings me to Brady White. If all goes well, BW will become the greatest statistical QB in Memphis history. He'll lead us in yards and TD passes by the end of 2020. I hope this happens bc that means he'll have stayed healthy and we know Norvell is his ride or die brother.
But then I wonder why we can't get behind BW as a fan base. Last year, Stammers and I led the charge about how he consistently failed against good defenses and piled up huge numbers against cupcakes. We were trying to convince a certain population on this board that Brady was just an average QB, regardless of Wins/losses.
But like the movie 12 Angry Men, even though I led the charge against him in the past, I'd like to switch my vote and rally behind our Memphis QB regardless of what happens now.
I went to the South Alabama game in person, took my girlfriend and 4 neighbors that live in LA. Brady had a great statistical game, but he overthrew several receivers and killed some drives. We won. I decided not to post any analysis bc I felt like it would be piling on....
My gf is an Auburn season ticket holder. I watched Bo Nix throw 3 interceptions against Florida. This week I watched Jake Fromm turn it over 4 times against SC. Nix & Fromm still have the support of their fan bases.
I wondered, what's the difference here?
It's because when it matters, against the best teams in conference, has BW played a mistake free game? Does he have to? He just needs one game against a good defense where he doesn't turn it over or get rattled.
It reminds me of Peyton Manning. Most forget he carried a monkey on his back for years because he couldn't win the big game.(college and pro-I tore the goalpost down with half of ya'll)
He's an icon now with tons of accolades, but for the longest time, he got a lot of criticism.
Maybe it's the modern era, where every mistake is amplified....
It's also unfair to compare BW to Stafford, or Nix, or Fromm. He's not that caliber. Like other's have said, he's an average to above average G5 QB.
But with what he went through after the 1st Quarter, to throw for 375 yards, I really think he's turned the corner. I think this team, his coaches, and this fan base will rally behind him. I'm not saying we'll go undefeated or that the backup shouldn't get a single series in future games. And all of you know that this team will go only as far as Brady goes....
Here's to hoping he leads us in all-time career passing statistics.
But there's a chance he could also lead us in career wins.
(I'll leave it up to the stats guys to validate this)
I went to every home game when Winprine & Matthews were setting records. And like most fans I have a tendency to look backwards through rose tinted glasses.
BW is about halfway through his career at Memphis. His legacy is yet to be written. Maybe I'm a fool for having too high expectations. But there's a chance that he could be remembered for his wins more than his stats....
(If Navy keeps winning, that may become a bigger win than most expected at the time)
(Also, I can't think of specific names, but what are some high stat QBs from Hawaii or Texas Tech or other similar teams that never really won any big games?)
Bo Nix is trash.
I watched the PSU/Iowa game and saw two top 25 P5 teams that I wouldn't trade Brady for.
And I watched UTk and MSU. Again, QB's that I wouldn't want.
From P5 schools.
Brady literally gets judged on EVERY pass he makes or misses. I get that int vs. Temple was HORRIBLE. But few QB's right now get judged so harshly as Brady does (by of all fan bases) Memphis.
It isn't that at all. When he refuses to run or runs and gets caught when he should easily be able to get a first down, he gets judged on that.
When he gets "tackled" by a hand brushing up against his helmet, or a defender lunging at him with one arm, or by not being able to sidestep a rush and then have plenty of time to throw, he gets judged on that.
He gets judged because he can't throw the ball across the field, so defenders don't really have to defend receivers on the wide side.
Most of us don't see it as Brady throwing a bad interception or fumbling on a rush; it isn't one or two plays. It is a dozen plays every game that would be much different if he had a stronger arm, wasn't so slow, and wasn't so easy to take down.
If he is 16 of 21 for 215 yards, but sprinkled in between he takes 3 sacks, doesn't run for a first down when the field is wide open twice, or runs and gets caught because he is the slowest player on the field a couple of times; that adds up to 10-20 less points per game, purely because he is so horrible in those areas.
- IF he was as hard to bring down as Ferguson
- IF he was as fast as Ferguson or Wimprine
- IF his arm was as strong as Hankins' arm
- IF he was as mobile as Wimprine
All of the above quarterbacks were below average in those categories. If White was even below average in those categories, we would be scoring a lot more points.
It continues to fascinate me; how you have the mental capacity to know these things to be facts.
Please, go over your thought process.
How do you know that we would be scoring alot more points???
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