The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

(09-28-2019 02:35 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

I completely agree. By its very nature, football is a rough sport because it requires aggressive play. That’s what the players are taught, and now they are being punished for it.

I get they are trying to make the game safer but on some of the plays (like Mykeltis) a few weeks ago that the defensive player literally couldn’t have done anything different and if the offensive player doesn’t duck down it’s a textbook tackle. There needs to be some sort of review of that or some type of change for those type of plays where the offensive player lowers his head.

Those plays really take away from the game and ultimate punish a player who could have done nothing different.

Unfortunately I think many players and coaches have figured out, injuring the other player is a way to increase your chances to win, and the crown of the helmet is the best weapon to do that. I heard last week Aikman and Buck say in the Philly/GB game, "no one wants to see this from the opposing team" when their player was laying motionless on the ground. I disagree, especially in the NFL, many players are trying to hurt the other player in my opinion.

We've had a player called for targeting in all 4 games this year, right?

(09-28-2019 04:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We've had a player called for targeting in all 4 games this year, right?

I think so. Vandy had those two hard hits that were clean, no penalties. Definitely something to work on in practice. Targeting is a big time penalty.

(09-28-2019 05:05 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 04:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We've had a player called for targeting in all 4 games this year, right?

I think so. Vandy had those two hard hits that were clean, no penalties. Definitely something to work on in practice. Targeting is a big time penalty.

One of those Vandy hits was marginal, there is no doubt if roles were reversed NIU would have been flagged on that.

(09-28-2019 05:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:05 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 04:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We've had a player called for targeting in all 4 games this year, right?

I think so. Vandy had those two hard hits that were clean, no penalties. Definitely something to work on in practice. Targeting is a big time penalty.

One of those Vandy hits was marginal, there is no doubt if roles were reversed NIU would have been flagged on that.

This game was called pretty well by the refs. They missed a ton of holdings on both side, but called Vandy on the hands to the facemask 3 or 4 times. NIU had lots of stupid penalties, and had to use timeouts to avoid delay of games. That's on the coaches.
The replays should that the Vandy players hit with their shoulders. They were clean hits , below the neck.

This targeting against NIU was pretty fair, unlike the other ones this year.

(09-28-2019 02:35 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

Hate the tageting rule not the sport.

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(09-28-2019 04:40 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Unfortunately I think many players and coaches have figured out, injuring the other player is a way to increase your chances to win, and the crown of the helmet is the best weapon to do that. I heard last week Aikman and Buck say in the Philly/GB game, "no one wants to see this from the opposing team" when their player was laying motionless on the ground. I disagree, especially in the NFL, many players are trying to hurt the other player in my opinion.

There’s a huge difference in trying to hurt someone and making a football play. Cole was making a play. Read it perfectly. QB left his receiver out to dry.

(09-28-2019 06:11 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 02:35 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

Hate the tageting rule not the sport.

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Just tired of getting the rough end of this call. It’s a game changing penalty and kills any sort of momentum. There’s no wiggle room for the rule.

(09-28-2019 02:35 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

Feel the same way. Maybe this 61-year old that grew to appreciate football over the decades has become jaded by this new brand of play. Agree about it becoming flag football (with passing at a premium).
One other gripe - the innumerable breaks in action tear the game down to periods of boredom.

(09-28-2019 08:07 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 06:11 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 02:35 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  The rules have changed so much over the years. What was once a great play is now a punishment to defensive players. I’m old school and I love to watch defenses fly around and make plays. With the new rules flying around and being aggressive cost you 15 yards, an ejection, and a first half suspension . Let’s just play flag from now on. At least we’ll play at full strength and no real injuries.

Hate the tageting rule not the sport.

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Just tired of getting the rough end of this call. It’s a game changing penalty and kills any sort of momentum. There’s no wiggle room for the rule.

I can understand an ejection from the game if it’s bad, but to suspend the player for the first half of the next game is absolutely ridiculous. The targeting call on Mykelti was just awful in the Utah. The punishment for trying to tackle at the knees did not fit the “crime.” We lost a huge cog in our defense for the Nebraska game on a bad call.

(09-28-2019 05:12 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:05 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 04:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We've had a player called for targeting in all 4 games this year, right?

I think so. Vandy had those two hard hits that were clean, no penalties. Definitely something to work on in practice. Targeting is a big time penalty.

One of those Vandy hits was marginal, there is no doubt if roles were reversed NIU would have been flagged on that.

This game was called pretty well by the refs. They missed a ton of holdings on both side, but called Vandy on the hands to the facemask 3 or 4 times. NIU had lots of stupid penalties, and had to use timeouts to avoid delay of games. That's on the coaches.
The replays should that the Vandy players hit with their shoulders. They were clean hits , below the neck.

This targeting against NIU was pretty fair, unlike the other ones this year.

Agreed, and would add some of them from last year as well. My problem is that this call not only resulted in a momentum swing in this game and also affects the next game. But the hit itself wasn't an excessively violent hit. Yet the hit on Tucker (??? I think it was him anyway) was way more violent and more potential for injury and not only was there no flag, the announcers were celebrating how violent it was. He was more defenseless than the guy in the targeting call. There needs to be some consistency otherwise its just bs.