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Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
The UN just released a new ocean warming report this week that was much more damning than this 2018 report. The report was issued by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control, and was pretty dire.

Among other things it said that the rate ocean temperatures are getting warmer has doubled since 1993, and if things aren't held in check somehow, we're looking at 5 to 7 times hotter oceans in the future (can't remember the exact time frame but it might have been 2100 and beyond?).

Because of ocean temperatures and other factors, the number of fish we'll be able to sustainably catch will drop by 25 percent by the end of the century. Plus with rising sea levels, a lot of coastal communities will be hugely impacted due to both the rising waters and less fish.

Just look at Hurricane Lorenzo if you don't believe ocean temperatures are rising - that's the first Cat 4 hurricane ever recorded that far out east in the Atlantic.

And to be honest, I'm not just concerned with ocean water temperatures rising, local streams, lakes and other bodies of water seem to be carrying dangerous bacteria. I have to look up the numbers but flesh-eating bacteria deaths due to people swimming in local lakes, etc., are at an all-time record high. That is one scary (and fast) death. We just had a 10 year old girl in Texas who died this month due to a bacterial brain-eating infection. That seems like the 3rd or 4th such death in the U.S. this summer alone.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/25/ipcc...ge-report/ (more on UN report)
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
lol....another in a long line of 'funded science gone awry'.....

here's a short tutorial for those that can't wrap their arms around the simple concept of displacement relative to sea level....it is only land based glacial melting that can contribute to sea level rise...





there are many reasons sea level is rising at a few mm/yr - gravity/subsidence, tectonic shifting, erosion, heat expansion, etc....

educate yourselves people...
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.
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Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
More proof that these climate scientists are not normal people.


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(09-27-2019 07:15 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  More proof that these climate scientists are not normal people.


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Correct, they understand the scentific process. Unlike many people here.
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(09-27-2019 07:17 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 07:15 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  More proof that these climate scientists are not normal people.


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Correct, they understand the scentific process. Unlike many people here.

CORRECTION;0:

That was a nice way of me saying they are clueless.


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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
(09-27-2019 06:58 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.

Peer review is supposed to occur PRIOR to being published.
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
(09-27-2019 07:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 06:58 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.

Peer review is supposed to occur PRIOR to being published.


#cha-ching!
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(09-27-2019 06:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The UN just released a new ocean warming report this week that was much more damning than this 2018 report. The report was issued by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control, and was pretty dire.

Among other things it said that the rate ocean temperatures are getting warmer has doubled since 1993, and if things aren't held in check somehow, we're looking at 5 to 7 times hotter oceans in the future (can't remember the exact time frame but it might have been 2100 and beyond?).

Because of ocean temperatures and other factors, the number of fish we'll be able to sustainably catch will drop by 25 percent by the end of the century. Plus with rising sea levels, a lot of coastal communities will be hugely impacted due to both the rising waters and less fish.

Just look at Hurricane Lorenzo if you don't believe ocean temperatures are rising - that's the first Cat 4 hurricane ever recorded that far out east in the Atlantic.

And to be honest, I'm not just concerned with ocean water temperatures rising, local streams, lakes and other bodies of water seem to be carrying dangerous bacteria. I have to look up the numbers but flesh-eating bacteria deaths due to people swimming in local lakes, etc., are at an all-time record high. That is one scary (and fast) death. We just had a 10 year old girl in Texas who died this month due to a bacterial brain-eating infection. That seems like the 3rd or 4th such death in the U.S. this summer alone.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/25/ipcc...ge-report/ (more on UN report)

The worst hurricanes on record were Key West in 1935 and Galveston in 1900. Fact is that the number of hurricanes has been declining in that time frame you describe. But that doesn't really demonstrate anything because it is ignorant to confuse weather with climate. Just because the number of hurricanes has been down doesn't mean its getting cooler.
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(09-27-2019 07:17 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 07:15 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  More proof that these climate scientists are not normal people.


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Correct, they understand the scentific process. Unlike many people here.


Scentific (sic) process?


But, but, but, I thought it was “settled science”?

What possible process is still needed?

One thing I’ve wondered of late: we keep hearing about these rising sea levels, that we’ll all need to move to the Rockies or the Alps or somewhere soon.
Yet, simultaneously we are somehow running out of water? So, which is it? Rising sea levels or chronic drought from, wha?

Seems to me limestone is a pretty amazing thing...

Gullible people be gullible

Sad.
09-28-2019 06:40 AM
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(09-27-2019 07:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 06:58 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.

Peer review is supposed to occur PRIOR to being published.


But muh scientific process...

The propaganda somehow still makes it through. Surprised?


Me? Errrrrrr, no.
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But muh Greta told me she's lost her childhood.
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(09-28-2019 08:21 AM)tigtoodawg Wrote:  But muh Greta told me she's lost her childhood.

she has....her parents screwed her arse putting her in that arena....
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
(09-27-2019 07:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 06:58 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.

Peer review is supposed to occur PRIOR to being published.

And them I'm sure references in multiple sources
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(09-28-2019 10:41 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 07:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 06:58 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 05:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://retractionwatch.com/2019/09/25/n...retracted/

More fake climate science.

"Nature is retracting a 2018 paper which found that the oceans are warming much faster than predicted by previous models of climate change.

The article, “Quantification of ocean heat uptake from changes in atmospheric O2 and CO2 composition,” appeared at last October but quickly drew the attention of an influential critic who said the analysis was flawed.

The authors agreed, and within three weeks the paper received the following update:

We would like to alert readers that the authors have informed us of errors in the paper. An implication of the errors is that the uncertainties in ocean heat content are substantially underestimated...."

Peer review in action.

Peer review is supposed to occur PRIOR to being published.

And them I'm sure references in multiple sources

Thanks for proving my point that you don't understand how research and science progresses.
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But I thought it was settled?

What’s to research further or “progress”?


Another FAT L.

Just own it and move on to the next made up CRISIS!!!
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RE: Paper on ocean warming withdrawn
(09-27-2019 07:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 06:04 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The UN just released a new ocean warming report this week that was much more damning than this 2018 report. The report was issued by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control, and was pretty dire.

Among other things it said that the rate ocean temperatures are getting warmer has doubled since 1993, and if things aren't held in check somehow, we're looking at 5 to 7 times hotter oceans in the future (can't remember the exact time frame but it might have been 2100 and beyond?).

Because of ocean temperatures and other factors, the number of fish we'll be able to sustainably catch will drop by 25 percent by the end of the century. Plus with rising sea levels, a lot of coastal communities will be hugely impacted due to both the rising waters and less fish.

Just look at Hurricane Lorenzo if you don't believe ocean temperatures are rising - that's the first Cat 4 hurricane ever recorded that far out east in the Atlantic.

And to be honest, I'm not just concerned with ocean water temperatures rising, local streams, lakes and other bodies of water seem to be carrying dangerous bacteria. I have to look up the numbers but flesh-eating bacteria deaths due to people swimming in local lakes, etc., are at an all-time record high. That is one scary (and fast) death. We just had a 10 year old girl in Texas who died this month due to a bacterial brain-eating infection. That seems like the 3rd or 4th such death in the U.S. this summer alone.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/25/ipcc...ge-report/ (more on UN report)

The worst hurricanes on record were Key West in 1935 and Galveston in 1900. Fact is that the number of hurricanes has been declining in that time frame you describe. But that doesn't really demonstrate anything because it is ignorant to confuse weather with climate. Just because the number of hurricanes has been down doesn't mean its getting cooler.



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(09-27-2019 07:17 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 07:15 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  More proof that these climate scientists are not normal people.


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Correct, they understand the scentific process. Unlike many people here.

Which climate scientists are you referring to? The ones who argue against the coming ice, uh, global war... darn it, I mean, climate change?

Are those the scientists you mean when you say scientists understand the scientific process?
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(09-27-2019 06:26 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  lol....another in a long line of 'funded science gone awry'.....

here's a short tutorial for those that can't wrap their arms around the simple concept of displacement relative to sea level....it is only land based glacial melting that can contribute to sea level rise...





there are many reasons sea level is rising at a few mm/yr - gravity/subsidence, tectonic shifting, erosion, heat expansion, etc....

educate yourselves people...

Thanks for this...
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