So what y'all want to do is just make the LB look more full?

How does that solve/improve attendence?

(09-11-2019 12:22 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  So what y'all want to do is just make the LB look more full?

How does that solve/improve attendence?

Not me, I am all for filling it up with paid admissions.

(09-11-2019 11:57 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  Tarp the upper bowl. We shouldn't be trying to sell more than 42500 seats to most games, and we should be consolidating the fans that are there into fewer parts of the bowl. Take off the tarps when you're expecting way more demand.

It's the only sensible solution to most of our attendance problems.

Ditto .... Upper areas, both end zones; the use of tarps to reduce the available seats will definitely help ...

UCLA giving away free tickets to the Oklahoma game this weekend.

(09-10-2019 11:56 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2019 11:32 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Other than the tiered pricing, which will be hard because you are selling those seats at $100 for a season ticket.... I get your point.

Send suggestions to Dr Rudd or the new AD. I would bet both would be receptive to solid ideas.

My honest opinion, IF this season plays out as some have predicted. Ticket sales will not be a problem next year.

I'm not as positive as you seem to be about the speed at which ticket sales will improve if you base it strictly on on-field performance. We have enjoyed the best 5 years of my life as far as nationally recognized success and being ranked in the AP T25, and we still haven't reached 25,000 season ticket sales (as far as we know - I find it odd that the U won't tell us the numbers... why not?)

But I do think we are making progress/the numbers are headed in the right direction. My thinking is that due to the shear size of the LB, and no pressure to buy tickets until game-day, it will take 5 more years of sustained T25 rankings and AAC championship games to reach 40K season ticket sales, which in my estimation would result in sell-outs "on the regular" when combined with week-of on-line sales and walk-up sales the day of.

I think what BIGD is driving at is trying to bridge the gap between that time and now.

I tell ya, if we could ever get 58,318 actual Tigers fans in the Liberty Bowl... Not us + visitors + boys clubs + local high school band day + etc., but ALL US, screaming for a win, yelling side to side, GO..... TIGERS.... GO.... TIGERS, I think it would be addictive. I think it would be like perpetual motion. I think some people stay away because "it's not like Neiland Stadium, It's small-time." If it could ever get to "big-time" in the atmosphere department, the atmosphere might stay "big-time."

When was the last time we went undefeated and played in the Access Bowl? If/WHEN we do that, I think season tickets go up by almost 5-10,000 and attendance to games follows.

But, I do agree that all it takes is hitting that number a couple of times for people to be much more willing to be there every game.

(09-11-2019 02:25 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 11:57 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  Tarp the upper bowl. We shouldn't be trying to sell more than 42500 seats to most games, and we should be consolidating the fans that are there into fewer parts of the bowl. Take off the tarps when you're expecting way more demand.

It's the only sensible solution to most of our attendance problems.

Ditto .... Upper areas, both end zones; the use of tarps to reduce the available seats will definitely help ...

You do realize Sec 112 and 111 in the N endzone are pretty full each game and have some of the most die hard fans. They even got a nickname for 111. "The Claw".

I say tarp the chairbacks on the East side. They never show up for a game.

I agree don't even sell above the upper portals until necessary.

(09-11-2019 08:31 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  All we have to do is chairback the whole stadium. That would drop our capacity to 38,171 (which is too low if you ask me), but it would create scarcity.

This

(09-11-2019 04:42 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(09-10-2019 11:56 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2019 11:32 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Other than the tiered pricing, which will be hard because you are selling those seats at $100 for a season ticket.... I get your point.

Send suggestions to Dr Rudd or the new AD. I would bet both would be receptive to solid ideas.

My honest opinion, IF this season plays out as some have predicted. Ticket sales will not be a problem next year.

I'm not as positive as you seem to be about the speed at which ticket sales will improve if you base it strictly on on-field performance. We have enjoyed the best 5 years of my life as far as nationally recognized success and being ranked in the AP T25, and we still haven't reached 25,000 season ticket sales (as far as we know - I find it odd that the U won't tell us the numbers... why not?)

But I do think we are making progress/the numbers are headed in the right direction. My thinking is that due to the shear size of the LB, and no pressure to buy tickets until game-day, it will take 5 more years of sustained T25 rankings and AAC championship games to reach 40K season ticket sales, which in my estimation would result in sell-outs "on the regular" when combined with week-of on-line sales and walk-up sales the day of.

I think what BIGD is driving at is trying to bridge the gap between that time and now.

I tell ya, if we could ever get 58,318 actual Tigers fans in the Liberty Bowl... Not us + visitors + boys clubs + local high school band day + etc., but ALL US, screaming for a win, yelling side to side, GO..... TIGERS.... GO.... TIGERS, I think it would be addictive. I think it would be like perpetual motion. I think some people stay away because "it's not like Neiland Stadium, It's small-time." If it could ever get to "big-time" in the atmosphere department, the atmosphere might stay "big-time."

When was the last time we went undefeated and played in the Access Bowl? If/WHEN we do that, I think season tickets go up by almost 5-10,000 and attendance to games follows.

But, I do agree that all it takes is hitting that number a couple of times for people to be much more willing to be there every game.

And....if we accomplish that and manage to keep Norvell .

(09-11-2019 05:02 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 02:25 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 11:57 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  Tarp the upper bowl. We shouldn't be trying to sell more than 42500 seats to most games, and we should be consolidating the fans that are there into fewer parts of the bowl. Take off the tarps when you're expecting way more demand.

It's the only sensible solution to most of our attendance problems.

Ditto .... Upper areas, both end zones; the use of tarps to reduce the available seats will definitely help ...

You do realize Sec 112 and 111 in the N endzone are pretty full each game and have some of the most die hard fans. They even got a nickname for 111. "The Claw".

I say tarp the chairbacks on the East side. They never show up for a game.

Yeah, those seats are always half full. What's up with that. Why are these people paying top dollar for seats but not going to the game? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad someone is buying those seats, I just want to see them come out and have some fun.

Each bleacher seat is 18 inches wide. Just widen each spot to 24 inches wide, and the capacity drops to ~45,000~ seats.

(09-11-2019 07:31 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Each bleacher seat is 18 inches wide. Just widen each spot to 24 inches wide, and the capacity drops to ~45,000~ seats.

or do what they had at legion field

go from 18 to 12 inches and it seats 80,000

(09-11-2019 07:31 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Each bleacher seat is 18 inches wide. Just widen each spot to 24 inches wide, and the capacity drops to ~45,000~ seats.

This, they're ridiculously undersized anyway. Being sandwiched between two "husky" persons sucks.

(09-11-2019 05:02 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 02:25 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 11:57 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  Tarp the upper bowl. We shouldn't be trying to sell more than 42500 seats to most games, and we should be consolidating the fans that are there into fewer parts of the bowl. Take off the tarps when you're expecting way more demand.

It's the only sensible solution to most of our attendance problems.

Ditto .... Upper areas, both end zones; the use of tarps to reduce the available seats will definitely help ...

You do realize Sec 112 and 111 in the N endzone are pretty full each game and have some of the most die hard fans. They even got a nickname for 111. "The Claw".

I say tarp the chairbacks on the East side. They never show up for a game.

You don’t tarp prime, lower level seats. That would look as bad if not worse than half full seats.

We have several major problems: stadium is too big to create demand as is FedExForum; students don’t show up in either sport. In the 70s-early 80s we had 8-10k per game. We were given good seats on the home side 20-30 yard line but this generation is not as sports centric as previous were; the advent of all day TV of college football; the times of games.

I know TV pays big money for football but back in the day, homes games in football and basketball were always 7:30pm. Saturday date night for students. A lot of factors in play.

(09-10-2019 08:08 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(09-10-2019 08:04 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Keep on doing the cheap Kroger tickets. But maybe tier them.

$1 zone. Go as low as $1 for the areas at the top of the stadium. To fill those up first. Let the seating in these zones be first come first serve. Actually enforce people staying in their zone.

$5 zone. Same as above.

$10 zone.

Next: once ticket sales have pegged out, invite area high school bands to come. Assign them places in the stadium in the corners that don’t fill up easy. Offer all of these bands the chance to play the fight song one time. Then let all of these bands put on a show when the game is over. Where fans can stay and watch.

Just my thoughts. I’m tired of seeing the LB appear to be empty when we have 40k, more than any non P5 school gets. We need to do all we can to get that last 20k in the stands. Our fans, city and school do a great job of supporting the football team. Considering all of our obstacles. We are in control of our perception. And the more we create sell outs and fun atmospheres at the games, the more people will begin to show up.

From Texas, I’ll see the Tigers when they come to Houston!!!!

Most who won't buy a $10 ticket ain't coming if tickets are even less.

This^ If they won’t come for $10, they won’t come if you pay them $10 either.

(09-10-2019 08:04 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Keep on doing the cheap Kroger tickets. But maybe tier them.

$1 zone. Go as low as $1 for the areas at the top of the stadium. To fill those up first. Let the seating in these zones be first come first serve. Actually enforce people staying in their zone.

$5 zone. Same as above.

$10 zone.

Next: once ticket sales have pegged out, invite area high school bands to come. Assign them places in the stadium in the corners that don’t fill up easy. Offer all of these bands the chance to play the fight song one time. Then let all of these bands put on a show when the game is over. Where fans can stay and watch.

Just my thoughts. I’m tired of seeing the LB appear to be empty when we have 40k, more than any non P5 school gets. We need to do all we can to get that last 20k in the stands. Our fans, city and school do a great job of supporting the football team. Considering all of our obstacles. We are in control of our perception. And the more we create sell outs and fun atmospheres at the games, the more people will begin to show up.

From Texas, I’ll see the Tigers when they come to Houston!!!!

It is Ironic that the guy complaining is a guy that did not bother to go watch his team play in person.

(09-11-2019 08:31 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 05:02 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 02:25 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 11:57 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  Tarp the upper bowl. We shouldn't be trying to sell more than 42500 seats to most games, and we should be consolidating the fans that are there into fewer parts of the bowl. Take off the tarps when you're expecting way more demand.

It's the only sensible solution to most of our attendance problems.

Ditto .... Upper areas, both end zones; the use of tarps to reduce the available seats will definitely help ...

You do realize Sec 112 and 111 in the N endzone are pretty full each game and have some of the most die hard fans. They even got a nickname for 111. "The Claw".

I say tarp the chairbacks on the East side. They never show up for a game.

You don’t tarp prime, lower level seats. That would look as bad if not worse than half full seats.

We have several major problems: stadium is too big to create demand as is FedExForum; students don’t show up in either sport. In the 70s-early 80s we had 8-10k per game. We were given good seats on the home side 20-30 yard line but this generation is not as sports centric as previous were; the advent of all day TV of college football; the times of games.

I know TV pays big money for football but back in the day, homes games in football and basketball were always 7:30pm. Saturday date night for students. A lot of factors in play.

You rehang that TV yet?

(09-11-2019 11:22 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-11-2019 09:25 AM)InsiderTiger Wrote:  ...I am not sure that UofM has anywhere near the same amount of parking that the Liberty Bowl has. But, UofM could be pretty creative about game day parking. ...

Just a quick note, actually the campus has more parking than the Liberty Bowl. That was the case back when the Heerey Report was done, and it has only gotten smaller at the LB and larger on campus (parking garages on campus vs. all that zoysia in the middle of Tiger Lane).

I am now off the OCS movement, at least for the time being. This latest frecuss with UT toying with the idea of playing the LB against someone other than us... I don't like the sound of that. If we move out of the LB, you can bet the city is gonna start courting them and Ole' Miss and others to actually do that.

I attended a utk/old mrs game at the liberty bowl about 30 years ago.

If you're averaging 15-20k empty seats, give them away for free. Consider those seats loss leaders like a retailer or gas station does for other products. Offer Vendor discounts, access to the Highland Hundred tent, etc. Build the demand. $10 to $1 isn't going to make any difference in the price point demand beyond offering them for Free.

They're just sitting there empty regardless, there is perceived market value demand on TV for filling those seats for the cameras. Build up that perceived demand on camera, build up the demand for the product to fill those free empty seats, then start charging for those free empty seats after demand for them is there.

Giving tickets to local youth football teams is a great idea IMO. Give them the unwanted tickets that people want to tarp. Build fans for future generations.