(09-08-2019 01:17 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: (09-08-2019 01:03 PM)JRsec Wrote: (09-08-2019 12:20 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: The Big Ten is definitely stacked with strong teams this season. Even Maryland came out and laid a beat down only the only ranked team out side Clemson that the ACC had. As the season progresses I think we are going to see that Army and Fresno St are pretty good this year. After Miami (FL), I think Fresno St is the second best winless team in the nation and their talent is not reflected in their record as they started with two P5s to open the season.
The SEC is definitely tiered this year:
Tier 1: UF, UGA, Bama, Aub, LSU
Tier 2: TAMU, UK, Miss St
Tier 3: Ark, Ole Miss, Tenn, S Car, Vandy, Mizzou
Tier 1 is pretty good but tier 3 is going to be really bad.
First of all every conference is tiered it's just that the scale of the tier is different.
The SEC's T1 is L.S.U., Ala, UGA
T2: Aub & A&M, Fla, possibly Miss State.
T3: Kentucky, Missouri, Ole Miss, possibly Miss State & possibly South Carolina
T4: Arkansas, Tennessee, Vanderbilt out of which Vandy may be the better one.
The Big 10 hasn't really beaten anyone or played anyone of note other than Syracuse and we have yet to know how good Maryland may be (although obviously better than expected) or if Syracuse has regressed.
As for Wisconsin they've played USF which is 0/2 losing to a less than inspiring Ga Tech, and Central Michigan. Ditto for Iowa. Purdue has a loss to Nevada and a win vs Vandy. Ohio State has played a lowly FAU and Cincinnati. Iowa has beaten Miami of Ohio and cellar dweller Rutgers. Penn State has whipped Idaho and Buffalo. Minnesota has beaten SD State and Fresno State and neither impressively. Michigan State has beaten Tulsa and Western Michigan.
In the SEC West Auburn has beaten Oregon, L.S.U. has beaten Texas, and A&M has at least played the current national champion and all three were on the road or at neutral sites. Alabama has played Duke and New Mexico State. Miss State is 2-0 but has beaten La Lafayette and Southern Miss who is respectable.
It's way too early to be talking about which divisions or conferences are the strongest.
But when you do make the comparisons you might also better consider the schools they have faced.
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Big 10 teams aren't just winning, they are winning big
How bout them Terps
Big 10 teams are killing small schools. When they play P5 schools we'll get an indication of their strength and that's just the facts. And not all small schools are equal either. Kudos to Maryland they have a P5 win. That's something you can't say for Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, or Penn State.
So far the Big 10 has played 4 P games and are 2/2. They have a victory over 1 ranked school #21 Syracuse. And one victory over Vanderbilt. They've lost to Colorado and Stanford.
Here are their only remaining scheduled games against P5 schools:
Week 3: Penn State / Pitt, Michigan State/Arizona State, Iowa/Iowa State, Purdue/TCU
Week 4: Rutgers / Boston College
October: Michigan / Notre Dame
So out of the P5 they may play 2 or maybe 3 ranked teams by the time their OOC play is finished and none of the schools will been top 15 (except possibly N.D.).
Of the remaining P5 games TCU (other than N.D.) may be the toughest.
So sport let's see how things progress.
The P5 teams the Big 10 will have played OOC are: Arizona State, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa State, Pittsburgh, Stanford, Syracuse, T.C.U., and Vanderbilt.
That's not exactly murderer's row.
Michigan will at least play Notre Dame in October.
And when they get past those there is no comparisons left to be made except to each other.
Now I challenge you before you keep yammering on to look at the P5 OOC schedules of other conferences and to compare.
I'm not saying the Big 10 doesn't have some strong schools, I'm just saying there isn't much to compare them to, which is why some of their big dogs have been boat raced in the opening rounds of the CFP by schools like Clemson.