(08-23-2019 08:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:26 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  The legacy TWC account problem on Spectrum is going to cripple the ACCN if it isn't fixed. People who had service from Time Warner Cable (TWC) when it was bought out by Spectrum can't receive ACCN without converting to a Spectrum account which takes what may be a lengthy phone call to Spectrum and possibly require upgraded equipment. It probably won't cost any more money but people don't know that and aren't going to make the call.

Spectrum is the dominant carrier in the heart of ACC country. As things stand now, the majority of people in the heart of ACC country can't get ACCN. We're talking about millions of ACC fans. This isn't just NC. It's all up and down the East coast.

Spectrum's lack of preparation for this mess suggests that this wasn't something they planned but it's hard to be sure. Could they have negotiated with Disney in bad faith, never intending to give ACCN to people with legacy TWC accounts unless they went to considerable trouble?

If higher level Spectrum employees weren't aware of this problem earlier, they certainly must be by now. Are the ACC and ESPN leadership aware of the problem? They're not acting like it. They have yet to put out a press release. I waste time reading message boards for various ACC schools. This issue is coming up over much of the ACC.

Thats brutal!

Smart business for Spectrum though as their new packages are more expensive than legacy TWC

You're assuming the new packages are more expensive. From what I'm hearing, that's generally not the case. My new plan is $20 a month LESS.

Here's the first news media piece I've seen on the problem. Expect a lot more. They need to be asking pointed questions of Spectrum, ESPN and the ACC.

It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be $22 more than I pay now and I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

(08-23-2019 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:26 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  The legacy TWC account problem on Spectrum is going to cripple the ACCN if it isn't fixed. People who had service from Time Warner Cable (TWC) when it was bought out by Spectrum can't receive ACCN without converting to a Spectrum account which takes what may be a lengthy phone call to Spectrum and possibly require upgraded equipment. It probably won't cost any more money but people don't know that and aren't going to make the call.

Spectrum is the dominant carrier in the heart of ACC country. As things stand now, the majority of people in the heart of ACC country can't get ACCN. We're talking about millions of ACC fans. This isn't just NC. It's all up and down the East coast.

Spectrum's lack of preparation for this mess suggests that this wasn't something they planned but it's hard to be sure. Could they have negotiated with Disney in bad faith, never intending to give ACCN to people with legacy TWC accounts unless they went to considerable trouble?

If higher level Spectrum employees weren't aware of this problem earlier, they certainly must be by now. Are the ACC and ESPN leadership aware of the problem? They're not acting like it. They have yet to put out a press release. I waste time reading message boards for various ACC schools. This issue is coming up over much of the ACC.

Thats brutal!

Smart business for Spectrum though as their new packages are more expensive than legacy TWC

You're assuming the new packages are more expensive. From what I'm hearing, that's generally not the case. My new plan is $20 a month LESS.

Here's the first news media piece I've seen on the problem. Expect a lot more. They need to be asking pointed questions of Spectrum, ESPN and the ACC.

It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be right about what I now pay, but I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

I am experiencing the same thing. I am a longtime TWC customer who was converted to Spectrum when they bought them some years ago. But all my usage and accounts are determined as legacy TWC accounts. I have a very very high end set of channels. Have had them for 23 years. And paid a whole lot. monthly that entire time.

I cannot get the ACCN on Spectrum unless I down grade my channel lineup tremendously (to Spectrum Silver) and save about $10 a month.

And in order to get the Spectrum Gold, I have to cancel my current package and then start as a new subscriber in 30 days.

(08-23-2019 09:41 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:26 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  The legacy TWC account problem on Spectrum is going to cripple the ACCN if it isn't fixed. People who had service from Time Warner Cable (TWC) when it was bought out by Spectrum can't receive ACCN without converting to a Spectrum account which takes what may be a lengthy phone call to Spectrum and possibly require upgraded equipment. It probably won't cost any more money but people don't know that and aren't going to make the call.

Spectrum is the dominant carrier in the heart of ACC country. As things stand now, the majority of people in the heart of ACC country can't get ACCN. We're talking about millions of ACC fans. This isn't just NC. It's all up and down the East coast.

Spectrum's lack of preparation for this mess suggests that this wasn't something they planned but it's hard to be sure. Could they have negotiated with Disney in bad faith, never intending to give ACCN to people with legacy TWC accounts unless they went to considerable trouble?

If higher level Spectrum employees weren't aware of this problem earlier, they certainly must be by now. Are the ACC and ESPN leadership aware of the problem? They're not acting like it. They have yet to put out a press release. I waste time reading message boards for various ACC schools. This issue is coming up over much of the ACC.

Thats brutal!

Smart business for Spectrum though as their new packages are more expensive than legacy TWC

You're assuming the new packages are more expensive. From what I'm hearing, that's generally not the case. My new plan is $20 a month LESS.

Here's the first news media piece I've seen on the problem. Expect a lot more. They need to be asking pointed questions of Spectrum, ESPN and the ACC.

It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be right about what I now pay, but I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

I am experiencing the same thing. I am a longtime TWC customer who was converted to Spectrum when they bought them some years ago. But all my usage and accounts are determined as legacy TWC accounts. I have a very very high end set of channels. Have had them for 23 years. And paid a whole lot. monthly that entire time.

I cannot get the ACCN on Spectrum unless I down grade my channel lineup tremendously (to Spectrum Silver) and save about $10 a month.

And in order to get the Spectrum Gold, I have to cancel my current package and then start as a new subscriber in 30 days.

Why can't you downgrade to Silver, then after (days/hours/minutes?) upgrade to Gold?

(08-22-2019 06:40 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:12 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:02 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  And the ACC Network is live!

Wish I could watch, I never fathomed that dish wouldn’t carry it.

Honestly you haven’t missed anything. The 1st hour has been almost unwatchable. FSU and Miami fans consider yourself lucky. Thank God I’m not paying extra for this crap

I watched the first ten minutes on ESPN & was underwhelmed. I thought with 3 years worth of preparation that it would be epic. Sounds like it was more of a dud. I thought it would be more along the lines of the opening to game day instead of sports center.


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(08-23-2019 10:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:40 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:12 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:02 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  And the ACC Network is live!

Wish I could watch, I never fathomed that dish wouldn’t carry it.

Honestly you haven’t missed anything. The 1st hour has been almost unwatchable. FSU and Miami fans consider yourself lucky. Thank God I’m not paying extra for this crap

I watched the first ten minutes on ESPN & was underwhelmed. I thought with 3 years worth of preparation that it would be epic. Sounds like it was more of a dud. I thought it would be more along the lines of the opening to game day instead of sports center.


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Of course it's a dud.

It's just to squeeze more money from people.

(08-23-2019 10:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  I watched the first ten minutes on ESPN & was underwhelmed. I thought with 3 years worth of preparation that it would be epic. Sounds like it was more of a dud. I thought it would be more along the lines of the opening to game day instead of sports center.

The "All ACC" show definitely seems to be modelled on "SportsCenter".

"The Huddle" seems more like "College Football Live" (not sure if there will be a remote broadcast show like "College Gameday" - but that said, actual ESPN Gameday will be at both the Miami/Florida and the GT/Clemson games, so...)

(08-23-2019 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:41 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Thats brutal!

Smart business for Spectrum though as their new packages are more expensive than legacy TWC

You're assuming the new packages are more expensive. From what I'm hearing, that's generally not the case. My new plan is $20 a month LESS.

Here's the first news media piece I've seen on the problem. Expect a lot more. They need to be asking pointed questions of Spectrum, ESPN and the ACC.

It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be right about what I now pay, but I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

I am experiencing the same thing. I am a longtime TWC customer who was converted to Spectrum when they bought them some years ago. But all my usage and accounts are determined as legacy TWC accounts. I have a very very high end set of channels. Have had them for 23 years. And paid a whole lot. monthly that entire time.

I cannot get the ACCN on Spectrum unless I down grade my channel lineup tremendously (to Spectrum Silver) and save about $10 a month.

And in order to get the Spectrum Gold, I have to cancel my current package and then start as a new subscriber in 30 days.

Why can't you downgrade to Silver, then after (days/hours/minutes?) upgrade to Gold?

I'll make my 4th call and see if I'm allowed to upgrade later (quickly). Good suggestion.

Patience every one.




For the 1st day with really no sports on I think they did a really good job. They led with the flagships in both sports and I expect them to even it out as time goes by...... All the host weren't too annoying and they all were alum's from an ACC school which I LOVED!!

Once football really starts then we can truly judge them.

(08-23-2019 10:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:40 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:12 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 06:02 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  And the ACC Network is live!

Wish I could watch, I never fathomed that dish wouldn’t carry it.

Honestly you haven’t missed anything. The 1st hour has been almost unwatchable. FSU and Miami fans consider yourself lucky. Thank God I’m not paying extra for this crap

I watched the first ten minutes on ESPN & was underwhelmed. I thought with 3 years worth of preparation that it would be epic. Sounds like it was more of a dud. I thought it would be more along the lines of the opening to game day instead of sports center.


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I think you need to give it more than 10 minutes.

(08-23-2019 11:46 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:41 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 08:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  You're assuming the new packages are more expensive. From what I'm hearing, that's generally not the case. My new plan is $20 a month LESS.

Here's the first news media piece I've seen on the problem. Expect a lot more. They need to be asking pointed questions of Spectrum, ESPN and the ACC.

It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be right about what I now pay, but I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

I am experiencing the same thing. I am a longtime TWC customer who was converted to Spectrum when they bought them some years ago. But all my usage and accounts are determined as legacy TWC accounts. I have a very very high end set of channels. Have had them for 23 years. And paid a whole lot. monthly that entire time.

I cannot get the ACCN on Spectrum unless I down grade my channel lineup tremendously (to Spectrum Silver) and save about $10 a month.

And in order to get the Spectrum Gold, I have to cancel my current package and then start as a new subscriber in 30 days.

Why can't you downgrade to Silver, then after (days/hours/minutes?) upgrade to Gold?

I'll make my 4th call and see if I'm allowed to upgrade later (quickly). Good suggestion.

Don't forget to mention that you're about to sign up for Hulu Live or YouTube TV - that will get their customer retention folks involved!

Packer and Durham are a suitable human face of the network, and makes a good comparison between the conferences when comparing against Finebaum. Packer can be a bit insufferable if you're a working stiff, alternating between gloating about the show being in his basement and demanding catering ahead of his appearances on ESPN. I like that they try to hit every school with every show.

I like it!!

(08-23-2019 12:48 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 11:46 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:41 AM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  It looks like a Spectrum package that has fewer channels than what I now get as TWC legacy customer (and probably wouldn't include ACCN) would cost me $12 a month more than what I currently pay. The next level package would be right about what I now pay, but I don't know if that's a promotional price that will go up after a year.

I am experiencing the same thing. I am a longtime TWC customer who was converted to Spectrum when they bought them some years ago. But all my usage and accounts are determined as legacy TWC accounts. I have a very very high end set of channels. Have had them for 23 years. And paid a whole lot. monthly that entire time.

I cannot get the ACCN on Spectrum unless I down grade my channel lineup tremendously (to Spectrum Silver) and save about $10 a month.

And in order to get the Spectrum Gold, I have to cancel my current package and then start as a new subscriber in 30 days.

Why can't you downgrade to Silver, then after (days/hours/minutes?) upgrade to Gold?

I'll make my 4th call and see if I'm allowed to upgrade later (quickly). Good suggestion.

Don't forget to mention that you're about to sign up for Hulu Live or YouTube TV - that will get their customer retention folks involved!

Going to be trying new suggestions again Monday morning. Thanks.

Streaming now working for Spectrum credentials on the ESPN app

I am told that ATT/UVerse has gone to binding arbitration regarding the COST of the ACC network. The arbitrator has until September 15th. May come sooner. Supposedly this is from someone who SHOULD know.

(08-24-2019 01:26 PM)Statefan Wrote:  I am told that ATT/UVerse has gone to binding arbitration regarding the COST of the ACC network. The arbitrator has until September 15th. May come sooner. Supposedly this is from someone who SHOULD know.

Binding arbitration? That sounds odd in this context. It’s not a dispute over the interpretation of an existing contract, is it?

Not understanding ATT/UVerse not offering it. Isn't Direct TV a part of ATT?

I guess we better hope the ACCN over performs in the first 3 weeks so that there sample size that they base their binding arbitration on is worth the most it can be.

(08-24-2019 03:21 PM)Indytarheel Wrote:  Not understanding ATT/UVerse not offering it. Isn't Direct TV a part of ATT?

It is odd.

Unless they want to move people from UVerse over to DirecTV ...

I dunno.

I'm on DirecTV ... and I've had the ACCN on quite a bit since it launched. I'm digging it, and I am sure that it will get better as they settle into things. It's felt like a combination of ESPN Classic, ESPNU, and regular ole ESPN.

I just hope the financials live up to expectations. Otherwise, all this will be for naught.

I will say this ... seeing things like UVA Lacrosse, or the Va Tech Wrestling, coaches come on, and talk about winning the national championship last year, made me oddly proud. I think it will help bring the conference together a little bit. You know .. besides the unifying hatred of the SEC. That can be a good thing.

Per ESPN customer care, the only providers that offer access to ACC Network in the ESPN app and ACC extra are Hulu Live, YouTube TV, and PS vue