(08-21-2019 02:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  For the sake of getting this thread back on track... Here are my early CAA predictions

CofC
Northeastern
Delaware
Hofstra
Drexel
Towson
UNCW
JMU
W&M
Elon

IMO, the CAA is wide open this year with the exception of NU and CofC in the top 2. I don't see UNCW ahead of anyone but Elon.

(08-21-2019 03:11 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 02:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  For the sake of getting this thread back on track... Here are my early CAA predictions

CofC
Northeastern
Delaware
Hofstra
Drexel
Towson
UNCW
JMU
W&M
Elon

IMO, the CAA is wide open this year with the exception of NU and CofC in the top 2. I don't see UNCW ahead of anyone but Elon.

I agree, it's wide open. Grant and Coen will have their teams primed for March. Delaware/Hofstra/Drexel are all interesting teams because I think one of them will contend for the title. Towson is a sleeper for me because of Fobbs, that kid is a bucket. JMU brings back some guys, but also has a lot of newcomers. W&M is shell of what they could've been, but at least that have Nathan Knight. I actually really like Elon's new coach, he was impressive on the recruiting trail and comes from a great coaching background. I think he's gonna do good things there.

(08-21-2019 01:20 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 01:15 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 11:31 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 10:43 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 10:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I thought Siddle should have been hired. I didn't hide that. And? It looks like my concerns were valid so far.

Whether you're right or wrong about CB, that doesn't mean Siddle would have been the right or better hire. We have no idea what kind of HC Siddle would be. Just because he'd likely try to run the same exact system doesn't mean he'd be able to handle the HC role.

True. But the odds of success with continuity were greater than the odds of success abandoning what got us to the NCAA tournament back to back. How much worse could we have possibly been?

Might have been better if Keatts had left anything behind is about the only way I see it . If you want to play the blame game put it where it belongs and that is with Keatts. Loaded up transfers,the class decommits and he takes the best player with him. I don't care who was coaching the last 2 years they were not going to win many games
I do think he can some games this year and being middle of the pack is possible if they stay healthy.

It's not necessarily about wins Mullet, it's about showing the ability to coach and improve. We have not seen that especially defensively. We saw that when KK took a group that Buzz had and won games. Coaching matters!

Interesting moving of the goal posts. I see what you did there. Lol

For the record, the prediction above that has us in 6th place seems about accurate to me. WM and Elon are going to hurt a lot this year.


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Freddie Jackson, Big Ced and Spruill were like seniors with Ponder and Talley on KK's first team. That's a good nucleus. There is a reason why you can predict basketball outcomes more easily than any other sport. It's about experienced talent unless there is no coaching whatsoever. And before you go there, the past 2 UNCW teams had no chance to win when you talk "experienced" talent sans Cacok. If you think that coaching is the end all, why does Hofstra win every year? If you have talent AND coaching, you win titles, but nothing happens without talent...NOTHING. With that written, Coen is very good at the coaching side of things and getting talent.

Getting to the CAA....some of you must feel that C of C can just win regardless of talent. C of C just lost Brantley which was seemingly 1/2 of their offense and NE lost a ton of players. Neither of them are a lock at this point, but could be considered favorites early. Tribe would have been the favorite easily except for a dumb AD move. We will see if C of C, Hofstra and NE reloaded, which is possible. I haven't followed their recruiting.

This is the year to finally see a move for UNCW and a big one next year with 2 more transfers ready and more overall experience. If you don't see them progressing some this year, then we may have a problem. I would have gone after another big if it were me, but I'm pleased with the recruits as they seem to have talent.

(08-21-2019 08:25 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Freddie Jackson, Big Ced and Spruill were like seniors with Ponder and Talley on KK's first team. That's a good nucleus. There is a reason why you can predict basketball outcomes more easily than any other sport. It's about experienced talent unless there is no coaching whatsoever. And before you go there, the past 2 UNCW teams had no chance to win when you talk "experienced" talent sans Cacok. If you think that coaching is the end all, why does Hofstra win every year? If you have talent AND coaching, you win titles, but nothing happens without talent...NOTHING. With that written, Coen is very good at the coaching side of things and getting talent.

Getting to the CAA....some of you must feel that C of C can just win regardless of talent. C of C just lost Brantley which was seemingly 1/2 of their offense and NE lost a ton of players. Neither of them are a lock at this point, but could be considered favorites early. Tribe would have been the favorite easily except for a dumb AD move. We will see if C of C, Hofstra and NE reloaded, which is possible. I haven't followed their recruiting.

This is the year to finally see a move for UNCW and a big one next year with 2 more transfers ready and more overall experience. If you don't see them progressing some this year, then we may have a problem. I would have gone after another big if it were me, but I'm pleased with the recruits as they seem to have talent.

Hofstra wins every year because it appears after 2 years they have a much better coach than we do. Simple answer.

Believe what you want to.

(08-22-2019 07:31 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Believe what you want to.

Results speak for themselves. We had enough talent to compete in the top of the league last year Bill. We proved that by getting a few wins against really good teams. But we didn't get better results because of our coaches unwillingness to adapt to his team. That's about as straight forward as it gets.

(08-22-2019 07:20 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Hofstra wins every year because it appears after 2 years they have a much better coach than we do. Simple answer.

C.B. is 3-2 against Mihalich.

(08-22-2019 07:56 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 07:20 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Hofstra wins every year because it appears after 2 years they have a much better coach than we do. Simple answer.

C.B. is 3-2 against Mihalich.

Doesn't mean a hill of beans when you finish 10-25

Bull. Not enough last year,not even close.

(08-22-2019 08:12 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Bull. Not enough last year,not even close.

Bill, come on man! one team was 27-8, and one was 10-23 in the same conference. Even someone with no basketball knowledge could figure that out(and i know that's not you!)

As an objective observer with no dog in the fight, I'll say this. I think it's pretty obvious Cacok is the best player UNCW has had at least since Blizzard and statistically he was a heck of a lot better than Blizzard and IMO just overall, but that's another debate. He will also play in the NBA so that says a lot too about how good he was. The guy had a ridiculous 30.7 PER under Keats as a sophomore on like a top 35 RPI team. You don't get much better than that to build around and he left him for McGrath for 2 years. You leave literally one of the best players in the nation for his Jr and Senior year and Keats is way off the hook IMO for any talent arguments.

(08-21-2019 08:25 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Freddie Jackson, Big Ced and Spruill were like seniors with Ponder and Talley on KK's first team. That's a good nucleus. There is a reason why you can predict basketball outcomes more easily than any other sport. It's about experienced talent unless there is no coaching whatsoever. And before you go there, the past 2 UNCW teams had no chance to win when you talk "experienced" talent sans Cacok. If you think that coaching is the end all, why does Hofstra win every year? If you have talent AND coaching, you win titles, but nothing happens without talent...NOTHING. With that written, Coen is very good at the coaching side of things and getting talent.

Getting to the CAA....some of you must feel that C of C can just win regardless of talent. C of C just lost Brantley which was seemingly 1/2 of their offense and NE lost a ton of players. Neither of them are a lock at this point, but could be considered favorites early. Tribe would have been the favorite easily except for a dumb AD move. We will see if C of C, Hofstra and NE reloaded, which is possible. I haven't followed their recruiting.

This is the year to finally see a move for UNCW and a big one next year with 2 more transfers ready and more overall experience. If you don't see them progressing some this year, then we may have a problem. I would have gone after another big if it were me, but I'm pleased with the recruits as they seem to have talent.

CofC has the best player in the conference and returns a decent amount of role players that will see more playing time. Grant has done a great job at developing his players and I don't see why that would change with this group. Northeastern had a couple of grad transfers that really hurt, if those guys stay they're my number 1. They still have a solid group in Rowland, Brace, and Murphy.

And the team played better without him several times ask Hawking.

(08-22-2019 10:02 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  And the team played better without him several times ask Hawking.

Cacock? Yes because this staff had no clue how to utilize him correctly.

(08-22-2019 10:02 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  And the team played better without him several times ask Hawking.

And why do you think that might have been Bill? Maybe because he plunked Cacok in the low post and ran the offense through the post when he was in the game. A place where his athleticism and amazing hands were negated and he had a size disadvantage. Why didn't the Lakers do that? Why didn't Keatts do that? Why did Keatts and the Lakers use him in the high post to set picks with rolls to the basket were he was unstoppable? Nobody in the CAA could stop him, UVA couldn't stop him there. The only guy to ever stop him was McGrath. And we wonder why the players weren't "buying in"?

How did Cacok go from a human highlight reel with jaw dropping alleyoops and dunks multiple times per game, to a guy who suddenly had none of those? A guy who shot an NCAA all time record 80% FOR A SEASON, as a Sophmore and blew away the next highest ever by 3% to a guy who shot 58.5% his junior year and 59% his senior year?

You really want to go there and look at the problem being Cacok and not the coach in the way he was utilized? Please.

(08-22-2019 10:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 10:02 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  And the team played better without him several times ask Hawking.

And why do you think that might have been Bill? Maybe because he plunked Cacok in the low post and ran the offense through the post when he was in the game. A place where his athleticism and amazing hands were negated and he had a size disadvantage. Why didn't the Lakers do that? Why didn't Keatts do that? Why did Keatts and the Lakers use him in the high post to set picks with rolls to the basket were he was unstoppable? Duke couldn't stop him there, UVA couldn't stop him there. The only guy to ever stop him was McGrath. And we wonder why the players weren't "buying in"?

How did Cacok go from a human highlight reel with jaw dropping alleyoops and dunks multiple times per game, to a guy who suddenly had none of those? A guy who shot an NCAA all time record 80% FOR A SEASON, as a Sophmore and blew away the next highest ever by 3% to a guy who shot 58.5% his junior year and 59% his senior year?

You really want to go there and look at the problem being Cacok and not the coach in the way he was utilized? Please.

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Didn’t blame Cacok. System was too predictable.

(08-22-2019 11:02 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Didn’t blame Cacok. System was too predictable.

The blame for which you assign to whom?

Just for context of how good Cacok's last Keat's season was

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/lea...eason.html

Cacok had the #82 best statistical season since they started tracking PER in 2009 and he was only a sophomore. He also was doing it on a legit good team, not like he was in the MEAC.

He clearly got better as a player and in other area's like rebounding and assist rate. While 58%FG is nothing to scoff at, had he maintained a little more value in the FG% say closer to 70% or so (Don't think you can realistically expect 80% as the primary option) he's probably looking at one of the best statistical seasons in the last decade up there with guys like AD and Zion.

I've got Cacok on my deep league fantasy radar now that Cousins is hurt. I think he could be a Montrez Harrell like player that can rebound a lot better. Kenneth Faried ish.