Good guy. Great story.

I’d like to see him get another chance with a CUSA team or something. Put him in the Skip Holtz category of, good but not great coaches. 6 seasons with ECU, no championships and 1 bowl win over a MAC team. He was consistent and could have probably pulled a Jeff Bower type career of multiple winning seasons but never quite having an elite run.

(08-18-2019 06:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

I think taking a knee against UCF and losing was the nail in the coffin.

Shane Carden sunk poor Grimmace

Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

(08-18-2019 10:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Ruffin should tell them to shove it. How bizarre.

Agreed


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(08-19-2019 02:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/video/13959374/

(08-19-2019 02:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

He was honored during Ruffs tenure.

East Carolina Hall of Fame

(08-19-2019 03:03 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 10:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Ruffin should tell them to shove it. How bizarre.

Agreed


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I understand the sentiments but all of those individuals responsible for the institutional incompetence have been removed so Ruff has been vindicated and his school will embrace him and honor him for being a winner and an ambassador. Most ECU fans wanted Ruff to get another year. Irrefutably, the trigger shouldn't of been pulled until someone else more qualified was lined up or at least wait until the timing was right to ensure that good options were readily available. Compher gambled & lost thereby being exploited as a sucker and will be demonized in ECU lore in perpetuity; so yeah I think coach Ruff comes out looking pretty good in all of this and everyone associated with ECU was humbled whether they were individually at fault or not.

The new staff should get the credit for this initiative to honor Ruff with Coach Houston as the ringleader (he and Ruff actually go way back via coaching channels). But also particularly, OC DK who worked directly under Ruff, Holtz & Logan, but also AC/OL coach Shank has been here 4x as well including the '92 Peach Bowl. DC coach Trott is from Concord, NC and has held the same position at Baylor, Duke, Clemson, and Arkansas previously and helped Bill Parcels win a Super Bowl. Just a really experienced, tight-knit group (all held the exact same positions at JMU under coach MH), perfect to tutor young men and recruit this region & are smart enough to reach out to coach Ruff as a friend, colleague, and ECU alum of the highest order to give him his due.

(08-19-2019 05:10 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/video/13959374/

It might be a hurricane, I'm not sure... But why was this game played in Raleigh again?

(08-19-2019 07:37 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 05:10 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/colleges/video/13959374/

It might be a hurricane, I'm not sure... But why was this game played in Raleigh again?

Hurricane Floyd. Major flood event.

(08-19-2019 02:59 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  Steve Logan is more deserving than Ruff, if the idea is to recognize fired ECU coaches who were fired prematurely. At least that is my recollection...

Logan's teams were fun to watch offensively...and always gave an interesting interview. lol

He's already been honored. Was too many years in the making but he got inducted into the HOF and was given his fair sendoff and for the most part the hatchet is buried. For as much as I love Logan (he was the coach when I fell in love with ECU) he's a stubborn, vindictive, arrogant prick who rubbed a lot of people the wrong way during his time as coach and after he was fired by working as an unpaid assistant in NFL Europe just to make sure he collected every penny of the ECU buyout.

Yeah, I remember when Logan was honored at halftime. He was the coach the whole time I was in school so it was a fun time for me too.

Ruff was absolutely fired too early, even though I don’t think he would’ve ever gotten us to the level We wanted to be. ECU’s main mistake when firing Ruff was not having a viable replacement ready. To me, the only thing worse than firing an above average coach (who had the connections to make a staff) is to look out at the candidates and see that either they don’t want to come to you or aren’t good enough to coach your team.

This is how we got Mo. He was a promising coach, but he had no CFB connections that he could work into a staff.

(08-19-2019 06:44 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 03:03 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 10:31 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Ruffin should tell them to shove it. How bizarre.

Agreed


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I understand the sentiments but all of those individuals responsible for the institutional incompetence have been removed so Ruff has been vindicated and his school will embrace him and honor him for being a winner and an ambassador. Most ECU fans wanted Ruff to get another year. Irrefutably, the trigger shouldn't of been pulled until someone else more qualified was lined up or at least wait until the timing was right to ensure that good options were readily available. Compher gambled & lost thereby being exploited as a sucker and will be demonized in ECU lore in perpetuity; so yeah I think coach Ruff comes out looking pretty good in all of this and everyone associated with ECU was humbled whether they were individually at fault or not.

The new staff should get the credit for this initiative to honor Ruff with Coach Houston as the ringleader (he and Ruff actually go way back via coaching channels). But also particularly, OC DK who worked directly under Ruff, Holtz & Logan, but also AC/OL coach Shank has been here 4x as well including the '92 Peach Bowl. DC coach Trott is from Concord, NC and has held the same position at Baylor, Duke, Clemson, and Arkansas previously and helped Bill Parcels win a Super Bowl. Just a really experienced, tight-knit group (all held the exact same positions at JMU under coach MH), perfect to tutor young men and recruit this region & are smart enough to reach out to coach Ruff as a friend, colleague, and ECU alum of the highest order to give him his due.

Yeah, I read that after I posted. I’m all for a typical ECU team.....which translates to very good. I’m pulling for you.


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(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

Because former AD Jeff Compher is a dumb S.O.B

They were always in the game with Ruffin.

(08-21-2019 03:40 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  They were always in the game with Ruffin.

I think there are multiple things about Ruffin that are both true. He was a good coach who never would have allowed us to get to anything resembling what Mo dropped us to, but he also had some obvious flaws as a coach that kept him from ever winning a championship of any kind and likely always would have. Compher was still by any objective measure an idiot to fire him when he did, the way he did, with no plan in place. However, I don't think it's wrong to say we had probably seen the high water mark of Ruff with Carden as QB, #1 and 2 on the all time catch list in Jones and Hardy at WR, and now Oklahoma HC Lincoln Riley as the OC and we still managed to lose 5 games in 2014. Even making the strongest case against him firing him after a 5-7 season in which the starting QB tore his ACL in fall camp and you had a well after signing day JUCO pie thrower and a guy who ended his career as a RB splitting time at QB was idiotic. Benkert doesn't get hurt we probably win 7-8 games and this entire disaster doesn't happen.

(08-18-2019 08:58 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 08:09 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

I think taking a knee against UCF and losing was the nail in the coffin.

And now they’re one of the worst football programs in the entire country. Congrats, ECU

Really bad Revenue Sports. A conference drain. If East Carolinas football program and basketball program played each other there's a good chance they'd both find a way 2 lose --- and no one would notice. The Fredo of the conference.

That's rich coming from Memphis. Shall we revisit the period of time before Justin Fuente and https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2396...rasedagain ?

(08-19-2019 07:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

I think taking a knee against UCF and losing was the nail in the coffin.

He survived that season and beat UCF 44-7 the following year. We had poor leadership that allowed a few who didn't like Ruff to make the call. I hope they're happy now.

To be fair, everyone beat us 44-7 in 2015.

(08-21-2019 05:07 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 07:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

I think taking a knee against UCF and losing was the nail in the coffin.

He survived that season and beat UCF 44-7 the following year. We had poor leadership that allowed a few who didn't like Ruff to make the call. I hope they're happy now.

To be fair, everyone beat us 44-7 in 2015.

Been living that dream for the past three years

(08-21-2019 05:35 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(08-21-2019 05:07 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 07:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-18-2019 06:49 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I was never sure why he was fired.

I think taking a knee against UCF and losing was the nail in the coffin.

He survived that season and beat UCF 44-7 the following year. We had poor leadership that allowed a few who didn't like Ruff to make the call. I hope they're happy now.

To be fair, everyone beat us 44-7 in 2015.

Been living that dream for the past three years