(08-19-2019 06:06 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (08-19-2019 04:08 PM)johnbragg Wrote: [quote='quo vadis' pid='16244386' dateline='1566244839']
Quote:and second, being "major league" has nothing to do with bowl viability.
I think you've retreated from this point, acknowledging that the Memphis area has more money than Shreveport.
Not at all. As Memphis is not in any popular or reasonable sense 'major league',
and yet has a reasonably thriving bowl game in the Liberty, being major league has nothing to do with bowl viability.
I put it to you, Quo, that your definition of "major league" is idiosyncratic. The popular and reasonable definition of "major league" is "has a major league pro sports franchise." That category includes the top 29 metro areas with the exception of
#13 the "Inland Empire", which is part of LA metro. It also includes #31-36, 39-43, 46, 47 and 50. And the one true outlier, Green BAy, #158. But that can reasonably explained by assigning Green Bay to Milwaukee (#39).
Any metric is going to have judgement calls on the borderline, which we have here. The Tidewater metro has a bigger population than the Milwaukee metro, Providence is larger than Jacksonville, OKC or Raleigh. And Buffalo is just behind Hartford and Birmingham. But that's why cities like Oklahoma City pay to poach pro teams from other cities, to tell the world that they're a major league city, a cut above cities like Tulsa or Omaha or Tuscon.
While you were busy deliberately misunderstanding terms, you also missed a very tight correlation between major league cities and sites of P5 bowl games. All but one (Sun Bowl) of the higher payout games are in major league cities.
Setting aside the New Years Six bowls (all in major league cities), the bowls by payout:
Citrus, Orlando Magic
Alamo, San Antonio Spurs
Outback, Tampa Rays, Buccaneers
Holiday, San Diego Padres
Texas, Houston Astros, Rockets, Texans
Camping World, Orlando (2nd bowl)
Music City, Nashville. Titans, Predators
Belk, Charlotte. Panthers, Bobcats (Carolina Hurricanes in same area)
Pinstripe. Yankee Stadium, etc.
Liberty. Memphis Grizzlies
Redbox. San Francisco 49ers, Giants, As, Warriors, Sharks
Sun Bowl. El Paso--exception.
Gator. Jacksonville Jaguars
Vegas. Raiders, Golden Knights
Military. Redskins, Ravens, Orioles, Nationals, Wizards, Capitals
First Responder. Dallas Cowboys, Rangers, Mavericks, Stars
Birmingham.
Mobile AL
Independence
Gasparilla. Tampa (2nd bowl)
New Mexico
Cheez-It. Phoenix (2nd bowl).
Hawaii
Boca Raton. dolphins, Marlins, Heat, Panthers. (2nd bowl)
Boise
New Orleans. Saints, Pelicans (2nd bowl)
Armed Forces Bowl, Dallas, 3rd bowl
Cure bowl, Orlando, 3rd bowl
Quick Lane, Detroit Lions, Tigers,Pistons, Red Wings. Cold northern city
Frisco. Dallas, 4th bowl
Arizona. Tuscon
Camellia. Montgomery AL
Bahamas.