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RE: WSJ: The New Birthers - "Trump is a Racist"
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hi...l-birther/

So by your definition your brother in arms are racists.
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(08-15-2019 03:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
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(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

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You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as fact, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

DEFEND YOUR POINT. FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

Obama's father is from Kenya, so if he wasn't born here that would be the logical conclusion.

There's nothing to discuss. I think he's a racist for the reasons I set forth, you don't. That's it. Full. Stop.

You believe he is a racist because you want to believe. One of those things has absolutely nothing to do with racism. After all, Trump also questioned Cruz's birth (he was born in Canada). The other is only remotely related and demonstrates nothing except that he believed some criminals were guilty. And yes, there is still some belief that the CP5 were committing crimes even if they didn't do the particular one they were charged with.
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(08-15-2019 11:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

I haven't seen/heard anything. What is happening is folks are hearing things the way they want to hear them in order to fit a preconceived narrative. It's just another example of confirmation bias that is so prevelant in politics today.

They're being fed sound bytes out of context and not engaging any level of critical thinking in jumping to conclusions.
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(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

Dude, c'mon. What proves anyone is a racist really? It's not like your hair color or something identifiable.

So we have to look at words and actions and form our own opinion...and trump has a long history.

CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

He would simply have to use racist language, we all seem to agree on what that is as viewed from a contemporary standpoint, not applied in retrospect. But I haven't heard him utter one single sentence that was racist. And he would have to have done something actionable that prevented any minority from being afforded equal opportunity or punished any minority for simply being of a different race or ethnicity. He hasn't done anything remotely like that so...
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(08-15-2019 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.
So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

Shut.
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You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as my actual beliefs, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

So the accusation would have been OK had Obama identified as white or were it leveled against a white man, what a hypocrite. What if he had been a white from South Africa? Would that have been racist as well?
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(08-15-2019 03:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  CP5 were guilty. There was around 30 young thugs running around assaulting multiple people in the park that evening, including those guys.

Shhh, he watched the mini-series or movie and is convinced. Forget the significant number of others who think they were and are guilty.
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(08-15-2019 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  CP5 were guilty. There was around 30 young thugs running around assaulting multiple people in the park that evening, including those guys.

Ridiculous revisionist history. Wow.

5 Exonerated in Central Park Jogger Case Agree to Settle Suit for $40 Million

No dumbace, the whole resurrecting of that case is the revisionism. Wow.
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Aggrieved thread#2
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(08-15-2019 09:53 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Aggrieved thread#2

Aw.. Is this what you have now that we no longer need to buckle up..
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(08-15-2019 09:53 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Aggrieved thread#2

Come on March, Add something to the threads. That's way more productive that exhibiting this defeatist attitude. 04-cheers
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The ONLY good thing about Obama is he was so f***ing awful is he basically got Trump elected.
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(08-16-2019 09:26 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  The ONLY good thing about Obama is he was so f***ing awful is he basically got Trump elected.

That is his primary legacy. Hope he likes it.
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Ultimately, the Dems have nothing else. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...eapon-time

"...First, Trump really is a hardball negotiator. He understands that the most important word for a negotiator to say is “no” as many times as necessary, before getting to “yes.”

Second, Trump has nothing to prove. Even with failed businesses, he has been a successful business person, very wealthy, and now, if he fails to strike a deal or is voted out of office, he still has a lot to fall back on. Literally, none of his domestic political opponents are in that position. To a person, the Democratic candidates have few real political or private-sector accomplishments; they are known for nothing but getting elected and running for office. They have few or no real options if they’re voted out of office, and so are desperate to win.

To use a favorite contemporary progressive word, it is “existential” to the Democrats; it is not to Trump. It is little wonder that they all lurch to the most radical ideas and attacks (free health care, open borders, reparations, free tuition, dismantling America’s energy sector, labeling opponents racist, etc.). It is media attention or death. Democrats are playing political “Hunger Games.” Trump is playing golf...."
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(08-16-2019 02:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ultimately, the Dems have nothing else. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...eapon-time

"...First, Trump really is a hardball negotiator. He understands that the most important word for a negotiator to say is “no” as many times as necessary, before getting to “yes.”

Second, Trump has nothing to prove. Even with failed businesses, he has been a successful business person, very wealthy, and now, if he fails to strike a deal or is voted out of office, he still has a lot to fall back on. Literally, none of his domestic political opponents are in that position. To a person, the Democratic candidates have few real political or private-sector accomplishments; they are known for nothing but getting elected and running for office. They have few or no real options if they’re voted out of office, and so are desperate to win.

To use a favorite contemporary progressive word, it is “existential” to the Democrats; it is not to Trump. It is little wonder that they all lurch to the most radical ideas and attacks (free health care, open borders, reparations, free tuition, dismantling America’s energy sector, labeling opponents racist, etc.). It is media attention or death. Democrats are playing political “Hunger Games.” Trump is playing golf...."

Wow, I'm surprised Grady Means could actually type that whole column with trump's **** firmly planted in his mouth. 03-lmfao
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(08-16-2019 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 02:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ultimately, the Dems have nothing else. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...eapon-time

"...First, Trump really is a hardball negotiator. He understands that the most important word for a negotiator to say is “no” as many times as necessary, before getting to “yes.”

Second, Trump has nothing to prove. Even with failed businesses, he has been a successful business person, very wealthy, and now, if he fails to strike a deal or is voted out of office, he still has a lot to fall back on. Literally, none of his domestic political opponents are in that position. To a person, the Democratic candidates have few real political or private-sector accomplishments; they are known for nothing but getting elected and running for office. They have few or no real options if they’re voted out of office, and so are desperate to win.

To use a favorite contemporary progressive word, it is “existential” to the Democrats; it is not to Trump. It is little wonder that they all lurch to the most radical ideas and attacks (free health care, open borders, reparations, free tuition, dismantling America’s energy sector, labeling opponents racist, etc.). It is media attention or death. Democrats are playing political “Hunger Games.” Trump is playing golf...."

Wow, I'm surprised Grady Means could actually type that whole column with trump's **** firmly planted in his mouth. 03-lmfao

Just curious, why is it that just because he said something you don't agree with you say he has a d!ck firmly planted in his mouth? I don't understand the logic of why someone would actually say something like that.
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(08-15-2019 03:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

I don't know Tom, maybe it's actually doing something racist..

I mean Obama was definitely racist.. He chose to go to a black criminal's wedding but couldn't be bothered to go to a white officer's funeral or offer condolences to any of them. He would send low level aids..

He hung around with race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... So to me that's more racists than someone saying, hey he wasn't born here, he was born in his father's home country or he's guilty because of xyz, and was proven in a court of law... but I'm just an idiot right...

It's funny how racist Tom can read between the lines to call Trump a racist but he wants the words spelled out in the below topic. Not good enough that everyone but Tom can see that the church Obama belong to didnt want white people attending.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-880583-post-16...id16237558

Nope he wanted to see it with his own eyes "white people not welcome. Intent is not important to him. Words are not important to him. Actions are not important to him. But BluebloodedTom can see Trump is a racist by injecting what he thinks . Without any facts to back it up. Come on Tom, show us all the racist words from your president?
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(08-16-2019 02:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ultimately, the Dems have nothing else. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...eapon-time

"...First, Trump really is a hardball negotiator. He understands that the most important word for a negotiator to say is “no” as many times as necessary, before getting to “yes.”

Second, Trump has nothing to prove. Even with failed businesses, he has been a successful business person, very wealthy, and now, if he fails to strike a deal or is voted out of office, he still has a lot to fall back on. Literally, none of his domestic political opponents are in that position. To a person, the Democratic candidates have few real political or private-sector accomplishments; they are known for nothing but getting elected and running for office. They have few or no real options if they’re voted out of office, and so are desperate to win.

To use a favorite contemporary progressive word, it is “existential” to the Democrats; it is not to Trump. It is little wonder that they all lurch to the most radical ideas and attacks (free health care, open borders, reparations, free tuition, dismantling America’s energy sector, labeling opponents racist, etc.). It is media attention or death. Democrats are playing political “Hunger Games.” Trump is playing golf...."

alright dadgummit....nuts zongo has had enough....come Monday, I'm filing suit against thehill.com for plagiarism.... 03-wink

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(08-17-2019 01:41 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

I don't know Tom, maybe it's actually doing something racist..

I mean Obama was definitely racist.. He chose to go to a black criminal's wedding but couldn't be bothered to go to a white officer's funeral or offer condolences to any of them. He would send low level aids..

He hung around with race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... So to me that's more racists than someone saying, hey he wasn't born here, he was born in his father's home country or he's guilty because of xyz, and was proven in a court of law... but I'm just an idiot right...

It's funny how racist Tom can read between the lines to call Trump a racist but he wants the words spelled out in the below topic. Not good enough that everyone but Tom can see that the church Obama belong to didnt want white people attending.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-880583-post-16...id16237558

Nope he wanted to see it with his own eyes "white people not welcome. Intent is not important to him. Words are not important to him. Actions are not important to him. But BluebloodedTom can see Trump is a racist by injecting what he thinks . Without any facts to back it up. Come on Tom, show us all the racist words from your president?

Thanks dishonest WKU. I never said his church didn't want white people attending. I clearly said they don't have a policy that says whites not allowed...and they don't.
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(08-16-2019 09:02 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-16-2019 02:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ultimately, the Dems have nothing else. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...eapon-time

"...First, Trump really is a hardball negotiator. He understands that the most important word for a negotiator to say is “no” as many times as necessary, before getting to “yes.”

Second, Trump has nothing to prove. Even with failed businesses, he has been a successful business person, very wealthy, and now, if he fails to strike a deal or is voted out of office, he still has a lot to fall back on. Literally, none of his domestic political opponents are in that position. To a person, the Democratic candidates have few real political or private-sector accomplishments; they are known for nothing but getting elected and running for office. They have few or no real options if they’re voted out of office, and so are desperate to win.

To use a favorite contemporary progressive word, it is “existential” to the Democrats; it is not to Trump. It is little wonder that they all lurch to the most radical ideas and attacks (free health care, open borders, reparations, free tuition, dismantling America’s energy sector, labeling opponents racist, etc.). It is media attention or death. Democrats are playing political “Hunger Games.” Trump is playing golf...."

Wow, I'm surprised Grady Means could actually type that whole column with trump's **** firmly planted in his mouth. 03-lmfao

Just curious, why is it that just because he said something you don't agree with you say he has a d!ck firmly planted in his mouth? I don't understand the logic of why someone would actually say something like that.

Did you even read the story? He does nothing but slobber over trump like he's a God. Remember, the last guy? You all had a cow accusing the MSM and posters here of the same exact thing for nearly 8 years!
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(08-19-2019 08:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-17-2019 01:41 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 03:52 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

I don't know Tom, maybe it's actually doing something racist..

I mean Obama was definitely racist.. He chose to go to a black criminal's wedding but couldn't be bothered to go to a white officer's funeral or offer condolences to any of them. He would send low level aids..

He hung around with race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... So to me that's more racists than someone saying, hey he wasn't born here, he was born in his father's home country or he's guilty because of xyz, and was proven in a court of law... but I'm just an idiot right...

It's funny how racist Tom can read between the lines to call Trump a racist but he wants the words spelled out in the below topic. Not good enough that everyone but Tom can see that the church Obama belong to didnt want white people attending.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-880583-post-16...id16237558

Nope he wanted to see it with his own eyes "white people not welcome. Intent is not important to him. Words are not important to him. Actions are not important to him. But BluebloodedTom can see Trump is a racist by injecting what he thinks . Without any facts to back it up. Come on Tom, show us all the racist words from your president?

Thanks dishonest WKU. I never said his church didn't want white people attending. I clearly said they don't have a policy that says whites not allowed...and they don't.

Of course they didn't, but the anti-white rhetoric spewed from the pulpit would make sure that they didn't remain if they stumbled into the establishment.

So are we now determining racism by the published policy? If so, that would reduce the number of racists...bigly
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