My opinion, what UAB built is all USM needs.

(07-26-2019 10:50 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 07:10 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Considering only one team in our division has one, I respectfully disagree. It all depends on what the practice facility is like. It doesn't need to be covered if the weather is tolerable.

Kids buy with their eyes. If you don't believe me just look at your recruiting rankings the last 4 years. If you aren't building, refurbishing or renovating something at all times then you are falling behind.

We had an 82 year old stadium up until this year, so IPF was not very high on the priority list when it came to spending money on facilities.

And I still disagree than an IPF is necessary. What is necessary is a good practice center. The practice field doesn't have to be covered and air conditioned.

(07-26-2019 11:30 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  My opinion, what UAB built is all USM needs.

It really is all you need here in the South. When we need the shade we have the shade. Also ours was built that if sometime in the future we wanted to close it in we could but I don't see that happening with Clarke there. He likes it still being an outdoor field technically.

http://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/local...tice-field

clt says we will paint it green when it comes on campus

(07-26-2019 01:09 PM)WhatIsThisFeeling Wrote:  It really is all you need here in the South. When we need the shade we have the shade. Also ours was built that if sometime in the future we wanted to close it in we could but I don't see that happening with Clarke there. He likes it still being an outdoor field technically.

Do you recall the cost?

IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

(07-26-2019 04:18 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

I dunno...coaches probably hate not being able to practice when it's lightening. The "need" for one is irrelevant. Why do most schools have them? Mostly because they CAN PLUS there's a lot of utility in having an IPF...ranging from practice to recruiting. It's not one or the other. I think you're being a little flippant here. There's a reason why every NFL team has an IPF...

(07-26-2019 04:28 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 04:18 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

I dunno...coaches probably hate not being able to practice when it's lightening. The "need" for one is irrelevant. Why do most schools have them? Mostly because they CAN PLUS there's a lot of utility in having an IPF...ranging from practice to recruiting. It's not one or the other. I think you're being a little flippant here. There's a reason why every NFL team has an IPF...

clt says an IPF is useless with lightening>


a drop in the level of the uterus during the last weeks of pregnancy as the head of the fetus engages in the pelvis

You were looking for lightning, pal.

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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(07-26-2019 04:18 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

You keep telling yourself that.

For the most part those that have IPF need them. When IPF was being built in Huntington, Marshall lost 8 count them 8 days of Spring Practice because of lightning. As per rule of the NCAA you can't make those days up. So in 2013 Marshall only had 7 practices in the Spring instead of 15.

Is it a recruiting tool also, yes. But so is the academic center, sports medicine facility and hall of fame. Its actually quite nice now for an injured player to be looked at in the sports medicine facility for non life threatening injuries rather than have to load them up and send them to Cabell-Huntington or St Mary's Hospital.

Also it isn't like its used for 1 sport. Marshall's IPF has batting cages, an 8 lane 3 meter track, a net for golf, portable tennis courts. Im sure Im leaving something out.

When we were in the Dome there were numerous times when we had to move practice to the Dome due to weather / lightning. Not sure what we are doing now.

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(07-26-2019 04:18 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

I agree. It would be nice to have for recruiting but is not a necessity for most southern teams. I understand cold weather teams needing them. Tech has plans for building one eventually but other needs take precedent, such as an academic center for athletes.

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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According to the Weather Channel it'll only be over 90 in Atlanta for 4 of the next 12 days, the highest being 92. For most of the days, the highs will be around 88. In San Antonio, the highs will be between 96 and 98 every day. So I agree with you in principle, but on average it's usually at least 8 or 9 degrees cooler in Atlanta during the summer than it is in places like San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Austin, and El Paso here in Texas. Long-range climate data averages bear that out as well. Just saying it's not as bad in Atlanta as you may think. I have relatives who live outside of Atlanta, in Canton, and it's always cooler when I'm visiting that area than it is here.

And yeah, I believe that temperatures in big cities everywhere are still rising at around 5 or 6 because of the heat buildup on pavement during the course of the day. I think that the only places you'll have highs at around 3pm these days is in the middle of the country where there's a minimum of paved roads, parking lots, and buildings.

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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clt says it is almost like the climate is changing

(07-27-2019 05:46 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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clt says it is almost like the climate is changing

Playing football outdoors has been a part of the Florida football experience since the beginning. Those days in the 90 degree weather with 100% humidity, made Florida legends from Michael Irvin to Ray Lewis. Even if we had an IPF I imagine they wouldn’t use it exclusively. Once we finish out IPF I imagine it will be used mainly to avoid our random rainstorms. Luckily our rain storms typically last for an hour, but can come 2-3 times a day in the summer.

You also have to consider a player’s health. Someone is throwing around 92 degrees like its nothing, but believe it or not, temp rises on a field turf field and especially if the team practices in the stadium like we do. And the players are in pads, so that adds heat as well.

(07-26-2019 11:48 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 04:18 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  IPF is another toy in the foolish athletic arms race.

I think of Bear Bryant taking his team to Junction, Texas because he wanted a tougher environment to practice in.

Very few teams actually need IPF's because of numerous bad weather events.

However, now it is essential to all D1 teams because of recruiting not conditioning. It joins elaborate locker rooms, enormous weight rooms and other extragrant facilities to keep up with peers in recruiting.

It is all about getting the players, not developing them.

I agree. It would be nice to have for recruiting but is not a necessity for most southern teams. I understand cold weather teams needing them. Tech has plans for building one eventually but other needs take precedent, such as an academic center for athletes.

I think its one of those situations where you don't really understand how much they are used until you have one. First of all, it's not just weather. Early morning practices, its much easier to use an IPF then turn on stadium or practice lights. When the weather is hit or miss, its much easier to keep equipment in an IPF than drag it out due to the chance of weather.

When it comes to using the IPF, football, soccer, baseball, softball, track, band, even student activities can all utilize an IPF and they do. On a college campus, pretty much everyday sports teams are doing some sort of practice or training. So anytime it's raining or cold, it is impacting the programs. An IPF is used EVERY day by some team or program. When students are doing voluntary work outs and training, they will use the IPF. If its 45 outside and they have a choice to go work on their own indoors or just wait until tomorrow, they will go to the IPF

And it is a huge deal in recruiting. If you have a big recruiting weekend and the weather sucks, your screwed. If you have a camp and the weather sucks, your screwed. If a recruit visits your school with an IPF and then has a bad experience at another school because they don't have an IPF, I suspect it will impact their decision.

It's even spreading to the High School level. High Schools that have IPFs really use them for a ton of activities and if your state has open enrollment laws, it helps High Schools attract players as well.

(07-27-2019 12:23 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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According to the Weather Channel it'll only be over 90 in Atlanta for 4 of the next 12 days, the highest being 92. For most of the days, the highs will be around 88. In San Antonio, the highs will be between 96 and 98 every day. So I agree with you in principle, but on average it's usually at least 8 or 9 degrees cooler in Atlanta during the summer than it is in places like San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Austin, and El Paso here in Texas. Long-range climate data averages bear that out as well. Just saying it's not as bad in Atlanta as you may think. I have relatives who live outside of Atlanta, in Canton, and it's always cooler when I'm visiting that area than it is here.

And yeah, I believe that temperatures in big cities everywhere are still rising at around 5 or 6 because of the heat buildup on pavement during the course of the day. I think that the only places you'll have highs at around 3pm these days is in the middle of the country where there's a minimum of paved roads, parking lots, and buildings.

The heat index in July here has consistently been 8 to 12 degrees above the temperature. And it's not a dry heat...

Lol

But the real danger in FL and GA this time of year are the pop up thunderstorms on the afternoons and accompanying lightning.

Today as I speak has been one of the milder days we have had. It's 90 with a heatbondex of 91 at 4:20 PM. The next couple of days will be in the 80's which is unusual for early Aug.

We have other priorities right now but a covered field at least like UAB has would not be a bad thing.

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(07-27-2019 03:22 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 12:23 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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According to the Weather Channel it'll only be over 90 in Atlanta for 4 of the next 12 days, the highest being 92. For most of the days, the highs will be around 88. In San Antonio, the highs will be between 96 and 98 every day. So I agree with you in principle, but on average it's usually at least 8 or 9 degrees cooler in Atlanta during the summer than it is in places like San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Austin, and El Paso here in Texas. Long-range climate data averages bear that out as well. Just saying it's not as bad in Atlanta as you may think. I have relatives who live outside of Atlanta, in Canton, and it's always cooler when I'm visiting that area than it is here.

And yeah, I believe that temperatures in big cities everywhere are still rising at around 5 or 6 because of the heat buildup on pavement during the course of the day. I think that the only places you'll have highs at around 3pm these days is in the middle of the country where there's a minimum of paved roads, parking lots, and buildings.

The heat index in July here has consistently been 8 to 12 degrees above the temperature. And it's not a dry heat...

Lol

But the real danger in FL and GA this time of year are the pop up thunderstorms on the afternoons and accompanying lightning.

Today as I speak has been one of the milder days we have had. It's 90 with a heatbondex of 91 at 4:20 PM. The next couple of days will be in the 80's which is unusual for early Aug.

We have other priorities right now but a covered field at least like UAB has would not be a bad thing.

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clt applauds the ga southern fan for using the correct “lightning”

(07-27-2019 06:01 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 03:22 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 12:23 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:10 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 10:33 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Kids are too coddled today. It's a strength to be able to handle southern heat and humidity. It's an advantage to condition kids in that weather. You're either hard or soft.

There's a story in Mississippi football lore about a JC football coach that lashed a mattress around a pine tree and made his players hit it until a pinecone fell. "Bull, Hurricane" Sullivan, I think his name was. He rolled over in his grave when the 'in the grasp' ruling came about.

I know we need one. The weather especially in big heat island cities like Atlanta is not what it was like in the 80’s. It’s 85 by 9:45 am and at 6 pm the temperature is still rising whereas the pattern used to be you reached the daily high at 3 pm and then it started to go down. And it’s not just a heat and humidity thing, it’s also the smog creating unhealthy conditions and the possibility of lightning from a sudden afternoon southern storm.


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According to the Weather Channel it'll only be over 90 in Atlanta for 4 of the next 12 days, the highest being 92. For most of the days, the highs will be around 88. In San Antonio, the highs will be between 96 and 98 every day. So I agree with you in principle, but on average it's usually at least 8 or 9 degrees cooler in Atlanta during the summer than it is in places like San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Austin, and El Paso here in Texas. Long-range climate data averages bear that out as well. Just saying it's not as bad in Atlanta as you may think. I have relatives who live outside of Atlanta, in Canton, and it's always cooler when I'm visiting that area than it is here.

And yeah, I believe that temperatures in big cities everywhere are still rising at around 5 or 6 because of the heat buildup on pavement during the course of the day. I think that the only places you'll have highs at around 3pm these days is in the middle of the country where there's a minimum of paved roads, parking lots, and buildings.

The heat index in July here has consistently been 8 to 12 degrees above the temperature. And it's not a dry heat...

Lol

But the real danger in FL and GA this time of year are the pop up thunderstorms on the afternoons and accompanying lightning.

Today as I speak has been one of the milder days we have had. It's 90 with a heatbondex of 91 at 4:20 PM. The next couple of days will be in the 80's which is unusual for early Aug.

We have other priorities right now but a covered field at least like UAB has would not be a bad thing.

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clt applauds the ga southern fan for using the correct “lightning”

Dude...youre not good at this...at all...

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