(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

I think CSU would decline due to lack of cultural and geographic fit, but all else equal, they are light-years better than UMass, and if they were in the southeast would be an ideal AAC addition.

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

I dont see it. Basically, CUSA bet on the potential of ODU FBS football 6 years ago and that gamble has yet to show any signs of paying off. I dont see why the AAC should be in a hurry to take over that losing position. It just seems like a unnecessary risk right now. Its not like they wont be available a few years down the road if ODU suddenly shows signs of life. If your willing to accept schools outside of the USNWR top 200, there are better football programs with proven track records of above average performance. At this point, I'd be fine with just adding VCU and standing pat for now in FB.

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

The problem is that an AAC program is already well supported in that area.

And it’s not a nice vacation destination. I lived/worked there for two years. It’s Myrtle Beach with colder water. Might have slightly less crack, but I’d have to see a study from a reputable source.




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(07-08-2019 07:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

I dont see it. Basically, CUSA bet on the potential of ODU FBS football 6 years ago and that gamble has yet to show any signs of paying off. I dont see why the AAC should be in a hurry to take over that losing position. It just seems like a unnecessary risk right now. Its not like they wont be available a few years down the road if ODU suddenly shows signs of life. If your willing to accept schools outside of the USNWR top 200, there are better football programs with proven track records of above average performance. At this point, I'd be fine with just adding VCU and standing pat for now in FB.

VCU is not leaving the A10 with Davidson, Richmond, George Mason and George Washington for the AAC to play Temple/ECU in hoops.

Maybe St. Louis that is replacing Rhode Island, UMass and Fordham with games against Cincinnati, Memphis, Wichita and Tulsa. SLU I think would jump for it.

ODU gives you a program that is not far in quality from VCU BB or ECU FB so not a home run but an ok addition.

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

1) Fort Collins is about as far from Denver as Chapel Hill is from Raleigh.

2)

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

ODU does a nice job of filling in some geography between ECU and Temple and in doing so helps to address a lot of the geographic incoherence of the AAC East. You'd have a grouping there and U_F have each other. Cincy's still out on an island, but it's better than it was before.

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

To be clear—this time around motive is not the AAC’s problem. Aresco has publicly stated the AAC is pursuing nobody and is fine at 11—but they are willing to listen if someone calls. If negotiations occur with CSU—it will be because they applied for entrance into the AAC—- not because the AAC recruited them.

(07-09-2019 10:12 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

1) Fort Collins is about as far from Denver as Chapel Hill is from Raleigh.

2)

UNC (allegedly a basketball school) has beaten ECU 70% of the time. I'll take it.

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

Thats a weak argument coming from a guy in a conference that stretches from Syracuse NY to Miami FL.

(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

Thats a weak argument coming from a guy in a conference that stretches from Syracuse NY to Miami FL.

Same timezone, bub.

(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Thats a weak argument coming from a guy in a conference that stretches from Syracuse NY to Miami FL.

I prefer the term "Canada to Cuba". Alliteration and all.

(07-09-2019 02:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

Thats a weak argument coming from a guy in a conference that stretches from Syracuse NY to Miami FL.

Same timezone, bub.

Two time zones don't seem to be hurting the B1G or the SEC. Also time zones don't effect how long you're sitting on a plane. 3+ hours is still 3+ hours.

(07-09-2019 11:44 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 09:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll reply to you because the other two responded with essentially the same thing. Institutionally speaking, UMass looks a lot like the teams in the conference and is in New England. This is the most logical substitute for UConn if the conference wants to plug the hole and keep rolling. Plus, wouldn’t that be the knockout the AAC and ESPN could give UConn?

Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

ODU does a nice job of filling in some geography between ECU and Temple and in doing so helps to address a lot of the geographic incoherence of the AAC East. You'd have a grouping there and U_F have each other. Cincy's still out on an island, but it's better than it was before.

Navy, in Annapolis, MD, actually already fills in that geography well.

(07-09-2019 02:44 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 02:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 02:24 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 09:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

“Hey guys, I know we’re in Podunk, CO. But I have an idea...an idea to be in a conference with East Carolina.

No, not North Carolina.

No, not South Carolina.

East Carolina.

Yes, they’re not as well known as Appalachian State. But trust me on this.”

Thats a weak argument coming from a guy in a conference that stretches from Syracuse NY to Miami FL.

Same timezone, bub.

Two time zones don't seem to be hurting the B1G or the SEC. Also time zones don't effect how long you're sitting on a plane. 3+ hours is still 3+ hours.

Does any major football conference have three?

(07-09-2019 02:53 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:44 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

ODU does a nice job of filling in some geography between ECU and Temple and in doing so helps to address a lot of the geographic incoherence of the AAC East. You'd have a grouping there and U_F have each other. Cincy's still out on an island, but it's better than it was before.

Navy, in Annapolis, MD, actually already fills in that geography well.

Only for football, it is the other sports were travel is the issue.

(07-09-2019 02:53 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:44 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 05:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Except .... UMass has zero brand value in football or hoops, and surely wouldn't be worthy anywhere near $7m to ESPN.

Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

ODU does a nice job of filling in some geography between ECU and Temple and in doing so helps to address a lot of the geographic incoherence of the AAC East. You'd have a grouping there and U_F have each other. Cincy's still out on an island, but it's better than it was before.

Navy, in Annapolis, MD, actually already fills in that geography well.

Not really. They're a football-only member and, at Navy's request, play in the AAC West for football to give them a more national tour of states for (military) recruiting purposes, so it's not like you're ever jockeying with them in the standings. You get them every couple of years and it takes a half-decade to complete a home and away with them. Couple that with the fact that it's hard to ever actually hate Navy and they're a good conference member but not great for forming rivalries for the Eastern teams.

(07-09-2019 03:09 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 02:53 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-09-2019 11:44 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:39 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-08-2019 06:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Exactly---which is why I made the following comment about CSU.

Every other pick involves sacrificing institutional fit in the name of athletic performance----or it requires completely dumping athletic performance to obtain a quality institutional fit. CSU is a reasonable compromise.

Frankly, CSU might be one of the few schools that could actually attract enough votes among the presidents to secure an invite. I really dont think anyone else outside of CSU, BYU, Air Force, and Army can do that.

ODU might be "ok" if they would expand to 35k as part of the entrance deal.

Builds the conference together some and VB is a nice vacation destination with a lot to do. Nothing major league in that market either so an AAC program would be well supported.

ODU does a nice job of filling in some geography between ECU and Temple and in doing so helps to address a lot of the geographic incoherence of the AAC East. You'd have a grouping there and U_F have each other. Cincy's still out on an island, but it's better than it was before.

Navy, in Annapolis, MD, actually already fills in that geography well.

Not really. They're a football-only member and, at Navy's request, play in the AAC West for football to give them a more national tour of states for (military) recruiting purposes, so it's not like you're ever jockeying with them in the standings. You get them every couple of years and it takes a half-decade to complete a home and away with them. Couple that with the fact that it's hard to ever actually hate Navy and they're a good conference member but not great for forming rivalries for the Eastern teams.

ECU plays them home and home two out of four years. 50% of the time.

Besides that football travel is a minor issue and a better Olympic sport school (VCU) exists in that spot and brings a nice new market with it and a higher level of success, we also don't have their football tagging along.