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(06-07-2019 12:48 PM)digibrink Wrote:  With the portal being new, even if the rules are clear, there will be some confusion around how it works. Sounds like once you put your name in coaches assume you're not coming back and are focused elsewhere (especially in the shortened timeline Brannen had). Logan will have a nice career somewhere.

It is hard to imagine that Brannen and/or other staff members would not have had ongoing communication with LoJo before those last scholarships disappeared. While the speed with which they went at the end was a pleasant surprised to me, LoJo and his family should not have been surprised or off guard.

They have nobody to blame but themselves for the situation. What in the hell did they expect the UC staff to do when he announced he was leaving? Sit pat for several months and wait it out on the extremely slim chance that he would return, while at the same time losing out on possible quality replacements? Ridiculous.

(06-07-2019 01:08 PM)Marcus Wrote:  They have nobody to blame but themselves for the situation. What in the hell did they expect the UC staff to do when he announced he was leaving? Sit pat for several months and wait it out on the extremely slim chance that he would return, while at the same time losing out on possible quality replacements? Ridiculous.

Hey boss, I'm going to take a moment to officially let you know that I am looking for a new job, but don't start looking to replace me. I may decide that I want to come back if I don't find something better...

(06-07-2019 01:26 PM)skylinecat Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 01:08 PM)Marcus Wrote:  They have nobody to blame but themselves for the situation. What in the hell did they expect the UC staff to do when he announced he was leaving? Sit pat for several months and wait it out on the extremely slim chance that he would return, while at the same time losing out on possible quality replacements? Ridiculous.

Hey boss, I'm going to take a moment to officially let you know that I am looking for a new job, but don't start looking to replace me. I may decide that I want to come back if I don't find something better...

Exactly....

(06-07-2019 01:28 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 01:26 PM)skylinecat Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 01:08 PM)Marcus Wrote:  They have nobody to blame but themselves for the situation. What in the hell did they expect the UC staff to do when he announced he was leaving? Sit pat for several months and wait it out on the extremely slim chance that he would return, while at the same time losing out on possible quality replacements? Ridiculous.

Hey boss, I'm going to take a moment to officially let you know that I am looking for a new job, but don't start looking to replace me. I may decide that I want to come back if I don't find something better...

Exactly....

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I say to the Johnson family, with all due respect, Welcome to a little thing we call the real world. SMH

Similar to telling your prom date "I am looking for an upgrade but you keep the date open in case I strike out!"

Bizarre logic!

They seem to forget that Uc was the one who gave them the scholarship, and not the other way around. What program would hold a scholly open for a kid who claims a need to transfer 2500 miles across the country in the anticipation he's coming back? You can't make this stuff up.

LOL, here come the fans putting the worst interpretation on his mom's statement. Sounds like a little miscommunication at worst and that Logan and his family wish UC the best.

With bro Tyler making $19 large you would think he could pony up $100,000 for a person to help the parents.

Story makes no sense.

(06-07-2019 02:22 PM)levydl Wrote:  LOL, here come the fans putting the worst interpretation on his mom's statement. Sounds like a little miscommunication at worst and that Logan and his family wish UC the best.

Glad you came to try and spin this now we just need hepblade to chime in and the circle will be complete.

(06-07-2019 02:23 PM)doss2 Wrote:  With bro Tyler making $19 large you would think he could pony up $100,000 for a person to help the parents.

Story makes no sense.

Sounds like they are trying to play up this family angle so he doesn’t have to sit out a year.

(06-07-2019 02:35 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 02:23 PM)doss2 Wrote:  With bro Tyler making $19 large you would think he could pony up $100,000 for a person to help the parents.

Story makes no sense.

Sounds like they are trying to play up this family angle so he doesn’t have to sit out a year.

Yes, an NCAA athlete is busier than a person who has a full-time job. I hope the guy finds a program that fits, but the idea that he is going to be responsible for caring for an ailing relative doesn't pass the smell test. Also, there was mention on one of the boards or Twitter that he asked Mick to walk on at UCLA. That doesn't fit the narrative either.

I guess I never understood the continued fascination with a kid who, while showing great effort, couldn't shoot consistently from outside, was careless with the basketball, and was only going to play strong minutes by default this year and wasn't necessarily trusted by either staff to do so (clearly shown by Mick actually looking at Grad Transfer PGs before he left and Brannen not really trying to keep him here). He always looked to me like his ceiling was probably a lower-middle class version of Dion Dixon (30ish% 3 point shooter, effort guy, and maybe near 8ppg his senior year and tertiary option on the team at best).

He clearly wanted to go when he decided to start taking OVs and he'll probably do fairly well against lesser competition in the MWC or WCC, but I just didn't see nearly what some of you did...and now that he's gone, we can completely lay it to rest.

(06-07-2019 03:19 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I guess I never understood the continued fascination with a kid who, while showing great effort, couldn't shoot consistently from outside, was careless with the basketball, and was only going to play strong minutes by default this year and wasn't necessarily trusted by either staff to do so (clearly shown by Mick actually looking at Grad Transfer PGs before he left and Brannen not really trying to keep him here). He always looked to me like his ceiling was probably a lower-middle class version of Dion Dixon (30ish% 3 point shooter, effort guy, and maybe near 8ppg his senior year and tertiary option on the team at best).

He clearly wanted to go when he decided to start taking OVs and he'll probably do fairly well against lesser competition in the MWC or WCC, but I just didn't see nearly what some of you did...and now that he's gone, we can completely lay it to rest.

I still think the kid is a good player and I think some of that judgment is clouded by the fact that his older brother players in the NBA. I agree that he couldn't shoot, but he was a hell of an athlete. My hope was that Brannen could fix the shot while retaining all of the positive traits. Obviously we won't see if that will come true or not.

(06-07-2019 03:19 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I guess I never understood the continued fascination with a kid who, while showing great effort, couldn't shoot consistently from outside, was careless with the basketball, and was only going to play strong minutes by default this year and wasn't necessarily trusted by either staff to do so (clearly shown by Mick actually looking at Grad Transfer PGs before he left and Brannen not really trying to keep him here). He always looked to me like his ceiling was probably a lower-middle class version of Dion Dixon (30ish% 3 point shooter, effort guy, and maybe near 8ppg his senior year and tertiary option on the team at best).

He clearly wanted to go when he decided to start taking OVs and he'll probably do fairly well against lesser competition in the MWC or WCC, but I just didn't see nearly what some of you did...and now that he's gone, we can completely lay it to rest.

Ummmm...I saw a freshman that was aggressive driving to the hoop, and we always had too few players doing that. He had elite athleticism, so he was going to develop into a finisher on those drives. And most importantly, I saw an honest to god game changing defender. Do you forget the many occasions he checked in and changed the momentum by forcing steals? Go rewatch the shootout.

I'd trade him for Moore in a millisecond..

Maybe I'm interpreting this differently than most, but to me it seems like he was always going to be leaving, the family was just disappointed that Brannen didn't officially tell Logan/the family there was no longer a spot for him on the off chance he wanted to come back. She just seemed disappointed she had to learn from Brannen telling Rothstein on Rothstein's podcast - that's how I took her use of the word "unfortunately".

Does LoJo deserve the decency for a coach to call him up and tell him he's officially no longer a part of the team? In my opinion, no, Brannen doesn't owe the family anything once LJ enters the portal. I believe once you enter the portal, the school has every right to write you off and consider you gone.

(06-07-2019 05:19 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  Maybe I'm interpreting this differently than most, but to me it seems like he was always going to be leaving, the family was just disappointed that Brannen didn't officially tell Logan/the family there was no longer a spot for him on the off chance he wanted to come back. She just seemed disappointed she had to learn from Brannen telling Rothstein on Rothstein's podcast - that's how I took her use of the word "unfortunately".

Does LoJo deserve the decency for a coach to call him up and tell him he's officially no longer a part of the team? In my opinion, no, Brannen doesn't owe the family anything once LJ enters the portal. I believe once you enter the portal, the school has every right to write you off and consider you gone.

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(06-07-2019 12:48 PM)digibrink Wrote:  With the portal being new, even if the rules are clear, there will be some confusion around how it works. Sounds like once you put your name in coaches assume you're not coming back and are focused elsewhere (especially in the shortened timeline Brannen had). Logan will have a nice career somewhere.

I think the fact that he'll live nearby during the stressful time will help the family. They can attend most of his home games and stuff. I Think he would have really helped UC over the years to come but I understand what the family is going through. Best of luck to him. If he had shown apprehension of moving, I think CJB would have saved a schollie. Good luck, Logan. Thanks for helping win the Memphis game this past season.

(06-07-2019 12:48 PM)digibrink Wrote:  With the portal being new, even if the rules are clear, there will be some confusion around how it works. Sounds like once you put your name in coaches assume you're not coming back and are focused elsewhere (especially in the shortened timeline Brannen had). Logan will have a nice career somewhere.

P.S. Anybody remember a guard in 1979 named Ervin ' Magic ' Johnson? He couldn't shoot an outside shot either and he developed a really nice jumper a few years later. Jusin Jenifer struggled shooting until he was a senior and he became the best 3 point shooter in the AAC last season.

(06-07-2019 01:08 PM)ucbandguy Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 12:48 PM)digibrink Wrote:  With the portal being new, even if the rules are clear, there will be some confusion around how it works. Sounds like once you put your name in coaches assume you're not coming back and are focused elsewhere (especially in the shortened timeline Brannen had). Logan will have a nice career somewhere.

It is hard to imagine that Brannen and/or other staff members would not have had ongoing communication with LoJo before those last scholarships disappeared.

I agree. Logan's tweet is very positive - no suggestion of sour grapes at all. Sounds like a communication issue between him and his family.

fwiw - I believe Logan will turn into a nice player and wish he hadn't left. Once someone fixes his jump shot, he will be dangerous.