(05-09-2019 12:11 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:01 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Amazes me that we can try and demonize tobacco at the same time we're "legalizing" pot.

Maybe Marlboro should just start selling packs of joints instead of cigs.

This graphic is from a peer reviewed research paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premiere medical journals:

LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Guy from my home town had a "bad trip" when he was young. My Father was friends with his brother. Screwed him up BAD. He basically needed assisted living until the day he died.

I've witnessed something similar.

I have no issue with WalMart setting its own policies regarding tobacco products.

(05-09-2019 01:53 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  Going to tick off a good number of 18-21 year olds.

very very few of the 18-20 crowd smokes anymore...

The worrisome part of it is that of adult smokers, less than half began before age 18, BUT 4 out of 5 (80%) started between the ages of 18 and 21.

(05-09-2019 01:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 12:11 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:01 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Amazes me that we can try and demonize tobacco at the same time we're "legalizing" pot.

Maybe Marlboro should just start selling packs of joints instead of cigs.

This graphic is from a peer reviewed research paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premiere medical journals:

LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Guy from my home town had a "bad trip" when he was young. My Father was friends with his brother. Screwed him up BAD. He basically needed assisted living until the day he died.

Bunch of idiots on here believing internet bs on how harmless drugs are. I have a relative who got slipped some lsd at a party and still had flashbacks yeArs later. Another who mixed ecstasy and alcohol and fried his brain. Still periodically hears voices. Another who got started, graduated to heroin and could never get off. Died of an overdose recently at 24

And here you have people like me that have eaten a ten strip, took 45 hits of ecstasy in one go one time (long long time ago), smoked pot daily for 20+ years, have taken mushrooms and gone about my daily life, and have smoked DMT only to have it cure him from the desire for pot ever again, and who has raised two normal (what's normal?) kids, been married to someone that does not do drugs for almost 18 years straight, has no college degree but makes over 100k a year, just got a promotion at work, and is working with two engineers right now to start his own company. Go figure.

(05-09-2019 02:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 11:25 AM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:01 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Amazes me that we can try and demonize tobacco at the same time we're "legalizing" pot.

Maybe Marlboro should just start selling packs of joints instead of cigs.

This graphic is from a peer reviewed research paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premiere medical journals:

LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Have you ever done LSD?

have you ever dipped a 100 sheet in a vat....

have you ever done X before it became illegal....

have you ever done pen!s envy.....

you're talking to a guy that understands chemistry across the board...

most folk don't have the capacity to plan for the trip or understand the company it potentially creates....

however, some have the ability to just say, "fk you jobu" and remain out of the limelight....

This is #trueth

(05-09-2019 02:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I don't get it...this is like saying, you can't buy beer unless you are 25 at our establishment.

I understand the 21 year old drinking age when they are legal age at 18.

Smoking isn't harming anyone but themselves, so this sounds like illegal age discrimination.

(05-09-2019 04:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I don't get it...this is like saying, you can't buy beer unless you are 25 at our establishment.

I understand the 21 year old drinking age when they are legal age at 18.

Smoking isn't harming anyone but themselves, so this sounds like illegal age discrimination.

non-smokers HATE 2nd hand smoke...I can tell you that from my time as a smoker. It's why even when it's cold and raining you'll see a group of older folks huddled together smoking outside. No one wants to be around it unless they smoke so they'll literally 'kick you to the curb' to go smoke.

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:57 AM)king king Wrote:  Link here


NEW YORK (AP) — Walmart said Wednesday that it will raise the minimum age to buy tobacco products and e-cigarettes at its U.S. stores to 21 amid growing pressure from regulators to cut tobacco sales and use among minors.

The world’s largest retailer also said it will also stop selling fruit and dessert flavored e-cigarettes, which critics say can hook teenagers on vaping.

The new rules will take effect in July at all its 5,300 U.S. stores, including its Sam’s Club warehouse locations. Previously, Walmart’s minimum purchase age was 18, aside from a number of states where the legal age is 21.

Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration put Walmart and 14 other retailers on notice for selling tobacco products to kids. Another retailer on the list, drugstore operator Walgreens, said last month that it would increase its minimum age for tobacco sales to 21 in September.

In a letter to the FDA Wednesday, Walmart said it will conduct its own tests this year to make sure minors can’t buy tobacco products at its stores. The company said it will retrain workers that fail its tests.

“Even a single sale to a minor is one too many, and we take seriously our responsibilities in this regard,” said John Scudder, Walmart’s chief compliance and ethics officer, in a blog post Wednesday.

Amazes me that we can try and demonize tobacco at the same time we're "legalizing" pot.

Maybe Marlboro should just start selling packs of joints instead of cigs.

most weed that's being legalized is not smoked...you eat it, or it's an oil, or you get a vape pen...and all of that is WAY safer than smoking tobacco.

(05-09-2019 02:39 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 01:53 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  Going to tick off a good number of 18-21 year olds.

very very few of the 18-20 crowd smokes anymore...

The worrisome part of it is that of adult smokers, less than half began before age 18, BUT 4 out of 5 (80%) started between the ages of 18 and 21.

yep, social smoking is a thing...

(05-09-2019 02:46 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 11:25 AM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:01 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This graphic is from a peer reviewed research paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premiere medical journals:

LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Have you ever done LSD?

have you ever dipped a 100 sheet in a vat....

have you ever done X before it became illegal....

have you ever done pen!s envy.....

you're talking to a guy that understands chemistry across the board...

most folk don't have the capacity to plan for the trip or understand the company it potentially creates....

however, some have the ability to just say, "fk you jobu" and remain out of the limelight....

This is #trueth

why did I know "you" would understand in 'scope'....

you obviously have a clue how it all 'works' in tandem...

from a personal perspective, it's amazing how psilocybin changed my myopic realm the few times I delved....

I simply know that one can't do that shite every day....that statement applies to any and all 'sins' across the board....

most don't have the capacity once 'trapped'...

one thing you'll never get addicted to is me majik shrooms....

(05-09-2019 07:58 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 04:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I don't get it...this is like saying, you can't buy beer unless you are 25 at our establishment.

I understand the 21 year old drinking age when they are legal age at 18.

Smoking isn't harming anyone but themselves, so this sounds like illegal age discrimination.

non-smokers HATE 2nd hand smoke...I can tell you that from my time as a smoker. It's why even when it's cold and raining you'll see a group of older folks huddled together smoking outside. No one wants to be around it unless they smoke so they'll literally 'kick you to the curb' to go smoke.

You're preaching to the choir. I still think its wrong to discriminate on the basis of age without a justifiable impact on others.

(05-09-2019 02:44 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 01:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 12:11 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:01 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This graphic is from a peer reviewed research paper in The Lancet, one of the world's premiere medical journals:

LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Guy from my home town had a "bad trip" when he was young. My Father was friends with his brother. Screwed him up BAD. He basically needed assisted living until the day he died.

Bunch of idiots on here believing internet bs on how harmless drugs are. I have a relative who got slipped some lsd at a party and still had flashbacks yeArs later. Another who mixed ecstasy and alcohol and fried his brain. Still periodically hears voices. Another who got started, graduated to heroin and could never get off. Died of an overdose recently at 24

And here you have people like me that have eaten a ten strip, took 45 hits of ecstasy in one go one time (long long time ago), smoked pot daily for 20+ years, have taken mushrooms and gone about my daily life, and have smoked DMT only to have it cure him from the desire for pot ever again, and who has raised two normal (what's normal?) kids, been married to someone that does not do drugs for almost 18 years straight, has no college degree but makes over 100k a year, just got a promotion at work, and is working with two engineers right now to start his own company. Go figure.

I guess I'll come clean then. I took enough LSD in high school to send every kid in that school on a trip. It was the 70's after all. And then I had you with all your physical deformities . I did pretty damn well over the course of my career and helped provide you and your sister with very good upbringings. All without the benefit of any formal higher education.

Good luck on the new company. Go make your old man comfortable in his golden years since asshats like Swagsurfer won't.

Im fine with this other than it bans 18-21 year old members of our armed services. I would have allowed them to make purchases showing a current valid military ID.

If someone is old enough to fight an die for their country?..then they are old enough to smoke and drink booze also.

(05-09-2019 08:20 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:46 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 11:25 AM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

Have you ever done LSD?

have you ever dipped a 100 sheet in a vat....

have you ever done X before it became illegal....

have you ever done pen!s envy.....

you're talking to a guy that understands chemistry across the board...

most folk don't have the capacity to plan for the trip or understand the company it potentially creates....

however, some have the ability to just say, "fk you jobu" and remain out of the limelight....

This is #trueth

why did I know "you" would understand in 'scope'....

you obviously have a clue how it all 'works' in tandem...

from a personal perspective, it's amazing how psilocybin changed my myopic realm the few times I delved....

I simply know that one can't do that shite every day....that statement applies to any and all 'sins' across the board....

most don't have the capacity once 'trapped'...

one thing you'll never get addicted to is me majik shrooms....

Man I can't stand those things. The last time I ate any was THE last time. Never again. I had to go lay down and make myself go to sleep.

(05-10-2019 07:21 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Im fine with this other than it bans 18-21 year old members of our armed services. I would have allowed them to make purchases showing a current valid military ID.

If someone is old enough to fight an die for their country?..then they are old enough to smoke and drink booze also.

They can, they just can't purchase it at Wal-Mart. Has anyone ever seen a Wal-Mart that didn't have a convenience store right by it?

(05-09-2019 08:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:57 AM)king king Wrote:  Link here


NEW YORK (AP) — Walmart said Wednesday that it will raise the minimum age to buy tobacco products and e-cigarettes at its U.S. stores to 21 amid growing pressure from regulators to cut tobacco sales and use among minors.

The world’s largest retailer also said it will also stop selling fruit and dessert flavored e-cigarettes, which critics say can hook teenagers on vaping.

The new rules will take effect in July at all its 5,300 U.S. stores, including its Sam’s Club warehouse locations. Previously, Walmart’s minimum purchase age was 18, aside from a number of states where the legal age is 21.

Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration put Walmart and 14 other retailers on notice for selling tobacco products to kids. Another retailer on the list, drugstore operator Walgreens, said last month that it would increase its minimum age for tobacco sales to 21 in September.

In a letter to the FDA Wednesday, Walmart said it will conduct its own tests this year to make sure minors can’t buy tobacco products at its stores. The company said it will retrain workers that fail its tests.

“Even a single sale to a minor is one too many, and we take seriously our responsibilities in this regard,” said John Scudder, Walmart’s chief compliance and ethics officer, in a blog post Wednesday.

Amazes me that we can try and demonize tobacco at the same time we're "legalizing" pot.

Maybe Marlboro should just start selling packs of joints instead of cigs.

most weed that's being legalized is not smoked...you eat it, or it's an oil, or you get a vape pen...and all of that is WAY safer than smoking tobacco.

based on what I'm seeing as the market evolves, I would agree...you can add in the "butter" too...

I've tried the ones you mentioned....it didn't take long to figure out the answer was "NO"....was too hard to regulate within my system....too potent

personally, I only smoke a few li'l baby puffs after a day in the field to help me sleep...toss in the fact it tastes yummy and settles my tummy, and it's a winner for ME!

LESS HANGRY AT THE END O' DAY

(05-10-2019 07:21 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:20 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:46 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:14 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 11:25 AM)king king Wrote:  Have you ever done LSD?

have you ever dipped a 100 sheet in a vat....

have you ever done X before it became illegal....

have you ever done pen!s envy.....

you're talking to a guy that understands chemistry across the board...

most folk don't have the capacity to plan for the trip or understand the company it potentially creates....

however, some have the ability to just say, "fk you jobu" and remain out of the limelight....

This is #trueth

why did I know "you" would understand in 'scope'....

you obviously have a clue how it all 'works' in tandem...

from a personal perspective, it's amazing how psilocybin changed my myopic realm the few times I delved....

I simply know that one can't do that shite every day....that statement applies to any and all 'sins' across the board....

most don't have the capacity once 'trapped'...

one thing you'll never get addicted to is me majik shrooms....

Man I can't stand those things. The last time I ate any was THE last time. Never again. I had to go lay down and make myself go to sleep.

It was pretty funny to watch actually. I'm like hey, where's my pops? He disappeared.

Come to find out he was tripping too hard and had to go take a Xanax.

I had a wonderful time. I groused a bit about wasting my party favors on him.

To boot, no one knew I was in an altered state. I dont need no babysitter.

I was once on the road upgrading servers and I was astounded by the amount of young smokers in and around WV. Then it occurred to me: smoking’s never been viewed as cool for anyone after Gen X.

Smoking is viewed as a huge negative now.

(05-09-2019 01:53 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:17 AM)bullet Wrote:  Going to tick off a good number of 18-21 year olds.

very very few of the 18-20 crowd smokes anymore...

Vaping seems to be quickly growing though. I know many young (mid 20s) people that never smoked but now vape.

(05-09-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  LSD less physical harm than tobacco or alcohol? I call BS on researchers doing their report while on drugs creating BS criteria.

You can take LSD once and it can stick with you the rest of your life.

I disagree. LSD flashbacks are, from my understanding, rare and tend to occur in those who've been frequent users. And while I certainly do not advocate for flippant and irresponsible use of LSD, having a hypothetical flashback for a few moment 5 years later is way safer than (insert cancer of somewhere in the respiratory system here) or (insert DUI deaths or domestic abuse or liver cancer here). To paraphrase Norm MacDonald in his recent Netflix hour, "You mean I take this drug once and I can get high again and again years later? What a bargain! ........... It's been over 20 years. Not one damn flashback yet. Good sales pitch, terrible follow through." Also LSD has a much much lower dependency risk. A full standard deviation lower than tobacco, and considerably less than alcohol too.