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What would you change to bowl season?
- 40 bowl games maximum (not including National Championship).
- 7 wins automatically qualifies to a bowl game.
- College Football Playoff - 8 teams: 5 power conference champions, 1 G5 top conference champion, 2 at large spots (Notre Dame gets it if in top 8). Quarterfinals before Christmas, Semi-Finals during New Years, Finals after.

College Football Playoff - 8 Teams:
7 Bowls: Rose Bowl (New Years Day), Fiesta Bowl (rotation), Cotton Bowl (rotation), Sugar Bowl (rotation), Peach Bowl (rotation), Orange Bowl (rotation), College Football Championship

Yearly New Years Day Bowl Games (No Access Bowls):
Outback Bowl (Tampa), Citrus Bowl (Orlando), Gator Bowl (Jacksonville), First Responder Bowl (Dallas - Cotton Bowl), Liberty Bowl (Memphis), Rose Bowl (College Football Playoff Semi-Final)

New/Relocated Bowl Games:
Quick Lane Bowl ---> Fenway Park Classic
RedBox Bowl ---> LA Christmas Bowl
Myrtle Beach Bowl (40th bowl game)
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Give Detroit game back to MAC
MAC put 50,000 people in the stands
B10 killed that game
Send it to Boston to die xxxx
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
I'd rather see 1AA school in bowl game than 5-7
I know NCAA says no
Certain instances it would work
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Somebody with common sense place the schools in bowl games.
My favorite is 3 games on 12/26
I laugh till I cry
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
I think fans can develop bowl fatigue if their teams go to a bowl every year. Sometimes it's better to sit out a year if they finish 7-5 or worse and went to bowl the year before.

Therefore I would change the number of games so that about 50% of 7-5 teams go to a bowl, with the tiebreaker being how many years has it been since a team went to a bowl.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
(05-01-2019 05:59 AM)goofus Wrote:  I think fans can develop bowl fatigue if their teams go to a bowl every year. Sometimes it's better to sit out a year if they finish 7-5 or worse and went to bowl the year before.

Therefore I would change the number of games so that about 50% of 7-5 teams go to a bowl, with the tiebreaker being how many years has it been since a team went to a bowl.

I agree, however there were 39 (+NC) bowl games this season and a few 6-6 teams did miss. Cap it at 40. I feel like getting rid of bowls would be difficult unless they're the boring/lame bowls that can't draw much of a crowd. Though I wouldn't feel too sad if the Frisco, Quick Lane, Arizona, RedBox bowls went away. That'd cut it down to 35 bowls (not counting Myrtle Beach, LA, Boston).

I don't mind a 6-6 P5 versus a 8-4/9-3/10-2 G5 school. Adding the Myrtle Beach Bowl makes sense for another G5 bowl game to keep up with the latest D1 move-ups.
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(05-01-2019 05:38 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Give Detroit game back to MAC
MAC put 50,000 people in the stands
B10 killed that game
Send it to Boston to die xxxx

The MAC fills in as the backup if the Big Ten or ACC can not fill their slots. Since the quick lane is really low in the Big Ten's pecking order, the Big Ten often does not fill that slot.

I am too lazy to look it up, but I am skeptical that a MAC team ever brought 50k fans to a bowl game.

One other note, if there must be one bowl game in Big Ten / MAC territory, I personally would prefer it be in Indy instead of in Detroit. Just a more convenient location for many Big Ten teams, and a nice enviroment.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Kill the Bowls. Full Blown 24 team playoff (conference champs of all 10 leagues qualify) just like FCS.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
B10 ACC are avg 22,000
MAC played in Detroit 18, 17 had more than 22,000
Purdue CMich in 2007 had 60,000 fans
5 were in 50,000
6 were in 40,000
4 were in 30,000
Not only that games played 12/26
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
No G5’s (except service academies, Rice and Tulane)

- This Board, probably
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
95% of bowls eliminate contracts with conferences. Let’s get back to good old fashioned capitalism where the bowls outbid each other for the best and/or the most sensible teams.

Also, max it out at 30. I wanted to say 20, but there are more eligible teams these days.*

Keep the current six bowls in rotation on NYD as the first round. Have the Final Four games at the same stadium the next week Friday and Saturday, if possible. It would be a cool concept, and nothing beats the tournament atmosphere with the various fans. Then the finals at the same site (!) at least a week later on a Monday night, although ideally it would be a Saturday.

The downfall is fans have limited time to book a trip if their team makes the Final Four. In some ways, that’s why having the quarterfinals on campus in December makes the most sense. Plus, the teams that do well get rewarded with home field advantage. I’d love to see Miami go up to Michigan in December, etc.

I am a firm believer in P5 auto-bids, realistically that’s the only way the playoffs will expand (broken record here). I also believe a computer is needed to objectively pick the three at-large teams. I don’t think we’ll see the “G5 auto-bid” per se, but a clause with language like “a team from outside the P5 conferences will be guaranteed a place in the playoff if ranked in the top 8 in the final Playoff Poll”, or something like that.

* I really don’t care about this. If your team wants to play in the Bad Bois Mowerz Super Clipper Deluxe 5500 Bowl, fine.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Nothing, I like it as it is. Bowl season is awesome.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Not sure about having the First Responder Bowl on New Years considering that the Cotton Bowl is going on in the same metro at the same time. Might be better to move the Holiday or Alamo Bowl into the early evening slot instead or move one of those two to NYE.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Less bowls, no reason mediocre teams should be rewarded for being average.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Keep adding bowls until everyone goes to a bowl. Then we can have 2 0-12 teams face off in the tidy bowl toilet bowl.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Have a few more bowl games in the north. Play the games at locations with domes (Indianapolis and Carrier Dome are examples).

Provide a few flexible bowls that accommodate all 6-6 G5 teams if needed. Additionally, set it up so no 5-7 teams go to bowls.
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
- Make the Orange/Sugar/Cotton/Rose NYD QF bowls (5-1-2, Rose still B1G vs PAC)
- Return Cotton Bowl to its rightful venue (centrally-located Arlington can host NC)
- Make the Peach/Fiesta SF bowls
- Make NYE a bowl-extravaganza day with 10 bowls
- Remove gimmicky names and bring back traditional names
- 40 bowl cap
- Revive the crystal ball trophy

PRE-NYE (21):
BAHAMAS Bowl (Nassau, BA)
PINSTRIPE Bowl (Bronx, NY)
MOTOR CITY Bowl (Detroit, MI)
MILITARY Bowl (Washington, DC)
QUEEN CITY Bowl (Charlotte, NC)
MYRTLE BEACH Bowl (Conway, SC)
CURE Bowl (Orlando, FL)
TANGERINE Bowl (Orlando, FL)
GASPARILLA Bowl (Tampa, FL)
BOCA RATON Bowl (Boca Raton, FL)
DIXIE Bowl (Mobile, AL)
CAMELLIA Bowl (Montgomery, AL)
NEW ORLEANS Bowl (New Orleans, LA)
ARMED FORCES Bowl (Fort Worth, TX)
NEW MEXICO Bowl (Albuquerque, NM)
ARIZONA Bowl (Tucson, AZ)
EMERALD Bowl (San Francisco, CA)
RAISIN Bowl (Fresno, CA)
POINSETTIA Bowl (San Diego, CA)
POTATO Bowl (Boise, ID)
HAWAI'I Bowl (Honolulu, HI)

New Year's Eve (10):
BLUEBONNET Bowl (Houston, TX) - 12e/11c, ESPN2
SUN Bowl (El Paso, TX) - 1e/11m, CBS
BIRMINGHAM Bowl (Birmingham, AL) - 2e/1c, FOX
LIBERTY Bowl (Memphis, TN) - 3e/2c, ABC
MUSIC CITY Bowl (Nashville, TN) - 4e/3c, ESPN
INDEPENDENCE Bowl (Shreveport, LA) - 5e/4c, CBSSN
LAS VEGAS Bowl (Las Vegas, NV) - 6e/4m, NBC
CACTUS Bowl (Tempe, AZ) - 7e/5m, ESPN2
ALAMO Bowl (San Antonio, TX) - 8e/7c, ESPN
HOLIDAY Bowl (San Diego, CA) - 9e/6p, FS1

New Year's Day (7):
OUTBACK BOWL (Tampa, FL) - 11e/11e, ESPN
GATOR BOWL (Jacksonville, FL) - 12e/12e, NBC
CITRUS BOWL (Orlando FL) - 1e/1e, ABC
COTTON BOWL (Dallas, TX) - 3e/2c, CBS
ROSE BOWL (Pasadena, CA) - 5e/2p, ABC
ORANGE BOWL (Miami Gardens, FL) - 7e/7e, NBC
SUGAR BOWL (New Orleans, LA) - 9e/8c, ABC

Semifinal Saturday (2):
PEACH BOWL (Atlanta, GA) - 6e/6e, ABC
FIESTA BOWL (Glendale, AZ) - 10e/8m, ABC

National Championship Monday:
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP (Arlington, TX) - 9e/8c, ABC
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What would you change to bowl season?
(05-01-2019 05:59 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Somebody with common sense place the schools in bowl games.
My favorite is 3 games on 12/26
I laugh till I cry


ESPN makes most of Bowl assignments as they own college football, so there goes any common sense.

Give G5 their own final 4 after Access Bowl decided. If AAC does not choose to participate, fine, but then they cannot take Access Bowl. They cannot have it both ways.


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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Here's what I would change:

1) A Maximum Limit in Bowl Games of 30. There are 130 FBS teams, half of that is 65, two teams in each game means 32.5 games. Round down to an even number...I'd go with 30. There's NO reason why more than half of FBS teams should be playing in a Bowl Game.

2) To be eligible to play in a Bowl Game, you MUST have a winning record...AGAINST FBS competition. The "FCS games" would no longer count towards a "winning record," and 6-6 would not cut it either.

3) Games can be sponsored by corporations, but MUST have a trophy they play for. No more "Taxslayer.com" bowls. I'm good with "The Nokia Sugar Bowl" or the "Liberty Bowl by FedEx." Bring back the "Citrus Bowl." Bring back the "Chic-fil-A Peach Bowl." I'm OK with a "City" Name, but make a trophy out of it that allows the Champion to play for.

4) Make the main, "Grandstand" seating section available to the participating Universities to allot and sell to their fans. I get it, these things are businesses. But the main stands, ought to be available for the Schools to sell. As it is, if you buy tickets through your school, you're likely to end up in some section in a corner of an upper bowl... If you buy your tickets through a secondary vendor, you can end up somewhere nicer. That leaves schools struggling to sell their allotments and incurring major penalties. And, in some games, it means that the camera makes it look almost empty even if the school brought a decent fan base. The games "SHOULD" be about the schools involved...free up the good seats for the programs involved!
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RE: What would you change to bowl season?
Personally, I love the bowl season. One can never get enough college football.

The only thing I'd change is to try and spread out the games throughout the month of December. Last year they didn't start until December 15. The earlier bowls are usually the "smaller" ones, why not start the week after the CCG's? Bids for the NYD games and the CFP would be after the championship games, but why wait for the others? Announce the early games after the end of the regular season which would still give teams 2 weeks or more to prepare. And while they're at it, throw a few "local" games in during the week, would beat watching reruns and Christmas specials.
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