(03-30-2019 07:53 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  A nice deal for the MWC would be one that gives them a 10:30 eastern GOTW, a handful of 8:00 eastern Thursday/Friday games, a timeslot on Saturdays on a network like CBS Sports at either 3:30 or 7:30 eastern and the rest of their games in Saturday timeslots of their choosing on a streaming service.

As far as membership changes to improve the league BYU and NMSU as full members and Gonzaga for Olympic sports would be awesome but highly unlikely.

If you are going to do a foray into Texas UTEP and Rice aren't the schools to pursue--UNT and UTSA are.

Chances are that no changes occur. If Boise doesn't like the numbers maybe they declare football independence, move to the WAC, and sell their football rights on their own. The MWC discontinues Hawaii's fb affiliate relationship in favor of a scheduling alliance, allowing the 10 full members to go to two 5 team divisions.

Hawaii, BYU, Boise, and NMSU help ease eachother's scheduling difficulties in November.

There are few other things bubbling under the surface in the MW. As I mentioned before, the MW teams would rather not do the late start games. Those kick off times are causing a loss of revenue at the ticket turnstiles. Additionally, because of the way the special Boise deal is set up---a big TV deal doesnt benefit everyone equally. So, many teams believe they are actually better off with a tv deal that generates more "in stadium" revenue rather than having a modestly higher media deal. Thats why many of the MW schools are just fine with a streaming deal that gives them tremendous flexibility on kick off times---but yields little more media revenue than they current get from thier TV deal. Boise, probably stands to lose more from a streaming TV deal than most anyone else---but even Boise would be likely benefit quite a bit from more "in stadium" game day revenue if they were able to set kick off times that are better suited the preferences of their local fans.

(03-30-2019 06:05 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 05:28 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

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(03-30-2019 02:03 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 05:32 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Boise State will still want to be on ESPN regardless of the very late start times. They think that is the only network for exposure for some reason.

I think the MW/CBSSN relationship has come it its end and the MW will look at Fox Sports or NBCSN as the 'national' provider. They also are on basic to lower tiers of cable/sat packages than CBSSN.

I think the amount of games the AAC has now with ESPN is a sign the MW is planning to minimize ties with ESPN.


As for any $ amount, I really don't have a clue as even though the TV revenue was decent at the time, the attendance at the games isn't making it worthwhile when you have to start at 8 or 9 pm. I'm guessing at least $4 million. But the MW will go more for control of games than revenue to get attendance back up as that can be more than any TV revenue if you aren't getting P5 $$.

The MWC is not leaving ESPN. Playing a Saturday Night game on ESPN2 or ESPNU or CBSSN is a much better option than playing a day game on Stadium or Facebook or beIN. San Diego State played 11 of their 12 games at night in 2018, with the exception being a day game at Bosie State on ESPNU. All of their home games were at night. They averaged over 31,000 at home. Eleven of the 12 games they played this season were nationally televised. The exposure on national TV is much more important than a 7:30 starting time.

The AAC is not going to steal any games ESPN games from the MWC, unless they want to play night games on the East Coast starting at 10:30 PM. I can't see a reason for the MWC to leave ESPN or CBS. What they need is more TV revenue and a 3rd national network for day games. The MWC last season had some day games on Facebook or a regional TV Network. Maybe they could get some day games on the NBCSN or ESPN Plus.

The MWC has to make the TV revenue work for Boise State and the other MWC schools. So the goal has to be increasing the TV revenue of the other schools without cutting the TV revenue for Boise State. Revenue of $3 to $4 million per school or divided in a way that works for everyone is probably where they end up.

By the way, Boise State is not leaving the MWC. They are starting baseball in 2020 and they are entrenched in the conference. They were able to leverage a good deal to back out of their "football only" deal with the Big East, but those days are behind them.

Here's the problem with the MW and ESPN. The MW really doesnt like those late start games and would like to stop doing them. However, if the MW is going to do those late starts--they want more money for doing it. From the ESPN prospective---The MW is largely used to fill ESPN's least watched broadcast window (late night) on its least watched primary network (ESPNU). It doesnt make economic sense to pay more than a certain relatively low amount to fill that slot. In other words, 80% of America is already asleep shortly after that game starts. In a pinch----and at NO cost----ESPN can fill that slot with a rerun of the Bama game or put a Sports Center rerun. So, given the small audience available, and the fact that ESPN is in business to make money---they can only pay so much to fill that late night ESPN-U window and have it be profitable.

I think ESPN can pay more than they are paying currently and I think the MW will get a raise---but I also dont think that raise is going to be very big because ESPN is basically just buying filler for the least watched window on its least watched primary network. There is limit to what ESPN can pay to fill that window. With 80% of America asleep in that window----I suspect the ceiling on what ESPN can profitably pay to fill that late night ESPNU window is relatively low.

Pretty much, it seems this time around (even with CBSSN) that if you want the MW to start at 9pm MST/PST then you are going to need to pony up to good dough to make it worthwhile.
Right now, I'm having a hard time seeing us staying with CBSSN for the same amount of $$ with the late start times. Maybe NBC Sports will make a play for the MW as they are able to show better start times for us compared to with watch they currently show on their channel. I'm not talking about the OTA channel but the NBC SN.

It is a gamble whatever the MW does as we are in a unique position due to geography/timezones. But whatever the outcome, we will be quite OK regardless.

We'll see what becomes of the exclusion period with CBSSN, but don't be surprised if the MW did something new or out of the ordinary as they have in the past.

Honest question not trolling. Has there been any comments from boise's administration about the upcoming negotiations and are they having any regrets about trying to strong arm the AAC rather than keeping their commitment. Imagine where the two parties could've been looking at now if the AAC had Boise and SDSU instead of Tulsa and Tulane.

Not that I heard of. However, at the time BSU was in the Big East and Tulane was invited, the money wasn’t going to be there for BSU. They needed $6 million and the AAC wasn’t going to get that much. Even with the new contract the AAC has would not give BSU the amount needed to travel in the AAC and pay the annual $1 million plus to the Big West.

So I plowed through wikipedia to get a specific idea about what the MWC television setup looks like. I went through the MWC schedules, and wrote down the TV channel and time (local and eastern) for each home game on ESPN/2/U/News or on CBS-SN.

21 games on ESPN/2/u/News, 19 on CBS-SN.
1 game on ESPN, 6 on ESPN2, 12 on ESPN-U, 2 on ESPNews
2 Friday night games on ESPN2 (Boise State in both games), 3 on CBS-SN (one with Boise)

Saturday games:
ESPNews: 2 afternoon games
ESPN-2: 4 late-night games (9:00 eastern or later kickoffs)
ESPN: 1 late night game
ESPN-U: 9 late-night, 3 primetime (7-7:30 eastern), 1 afternoon
CBS-SN: 9 late-night, 4 primetime, 3 afternoon

MWC has 33 games next yr that can start at 10:30 PT
Hawaii has 7, 1 sept game from Boise who on time zone border
25 from West div.
They don't split them up

(03-30-2019 09:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  So I plowed through wikipedia to get a specific idea about what the MWC television setup looks like. I went through the MWC schedules, and wrote down the TV channel and time (local and eastern) for each home game on ESPN/2/U/News or on CBS-SN.

21 games on ESPN/2/u/News, 19 on CBS-SN.
1 game on ESPN, 6 on ESPN2, 12 on ESPN-U, 2 on ESPNews
2 Friday night games on ESPN2 (Boise State in both games), 3 on CBS-SN (one with Boise)

Saturday games:
ESPNews: 2 afternoon games
ESPN-2: 4 late-night games (9:00 eastern or later kickoffs)
ESPN: 1 late night game
ESPN-U: 9 late-night, 3 primetime (7-7:30 eastern), 1 afternoon
CBS-SN: 9 late-night, 4 primetime, 3 afternoon

They might as well stream if ESPN gives them ESPNU or ESPNNews for late night.

(03-29-2019 05:32 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Officially starts in April.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail...-West.aspx

The newest article regarding the TV contract I can find on the internet. Within the article is a reference for the Las Vegas Sun article for more details about other things.

We should hear something fairly soon I suspect as the conference sub-committee has been working the past year regarding the new TV deal for 2020 and beyond. The committee has been informing the conference regularly each week so I think we already have an idea what to expect.

A lot of questions come to mind, but if I laid them out it will be quite wordy.
But I do wonder how BSU home games will be handled in this round since they are separate from the rest of TV package and that they aren't the dominating force they were at the time they came back to the MW to get a special deal.

I do suspect a few things:
Stadium will be a big part of the MW TV deal. The commish has had regular meeting at Stadium's headquarters in Chicago and they have expand the OTA network a bit in the MW footprint. The MW has always taken risks and I think having Stadium as much bigger part of deal will carry that forward as Stadium has shown baseball and women's volleyball/basketball games on the OTA channel.

The MWDN will continue on with Stadium's digital platform and has been a big success for the MW, even those that are on Stadium Plus ($4.99/month)

Boise State will still want to be on ESPN regardless of the very late start times. They think that is the only network for exposure for some reason.

I think the MW/CBSSN relationship has come it its end and the MW will look at Fox Sports or NBCSN as the 'national' provider. They also are on basic to lower tiers of cable/sat packages than CBSSN.

I think the amount of games the AAC has now with ESPN is a sign the MW is planning to minimize ties with ESPN.


As for any $ amount, I really don't have a clue as even though the TV revenue was decent at the time, the attendance at the games isn't making it worthwhile when you have to start at 8 or 9 pm. I'm guessing at least $4 million. But the MW will go more for control of games than revenue to get attendance back up as that can be more than any TV revenue if you aren't getting P5 $$.

Boise’s interests and the rest of the MWC’s interests are likely very different. If the MWC goes with ESPN, Boise gets 1.5M minimum off the top. But if the conference doesn’t agree to any TV deal and sells the rights to the Boise home games to Stadium then all teams share in that revenue. This situation could get interesting.

(03-29-2019 07:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 06:54 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  After looking at AAC contract,
It appears ESPN is moving quite a bit content to ACCN
ESPN pulls. AAC sublience deal from CBSSN
BOTH stations have more room

I expect that ESPN will probably move a few better games in the existing "non-Raycom" ACC ESPN inventory vault over to the ACCN just to make it more attractive to cable systems. Also, the MW filled 20 or so ESPN slots. It may be that the extra AAC content is expected to fill some of those former ACC/MW slots (assuming some of the current ESPN MW inventory is not renewed). Additionally, in one interview Aresco said something to the effect that he thought ESPN-News would be moving away from airing live games. That might be in part due to not needing those broadcast windows anymore.

Hmm. Idle speculation--how hard would it be for ESPN to get the MWC rights?

ESPN currently has the rights to 16 MWC games plus the 6 Boise STate games. That helps fill ESPN's need for 10pm and 10:30p.m. Eastern time kickoffs.

If the MWC is considering passing on the revenue from chasing national-cable and taking control of their kickoff times, maybe ESPN+ is the answer?

It could be very hard. 11 teams not named Boise have a strong financial incentive to not put the content on ESPN and put in on Stadium. Expect the AAC to have lots of late start times as ESPN looks to fill the 7:00 pst slots. ESPN made the offer to the PAC-12 for a reason.

(03-30-2019 12:22 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 10:36 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:38 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 08:15 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Be interesting to see what the MWC gets per school. Should get a raise. How much will they get? What are they currently getting? I know Boise has a special deal, so what are the rest of the schools currently getting?

I don’t know how accurate is this but I remember reading on the MWC board back in 2015 or 2016 that Boise State was getting up to $3 million a year while Wyoming was getting $600k because schools were getting bonuses based on the number of ESPN appearances. I don’t visit that board as much as I used to so I’m not very familiar how their tv deal works.

I don't know if those numbers are right or not, but the description of the basic structure of the agreement is accurate.

It was initially set up that way, then the league office moved to equal revenue sharing.

Only for the 11 teams not named Boise.

(03-31-2019 01:31 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 06:54 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  After looking at AAC contract,
It appears ESPN is moving quite a bit content to ACCN
ESPN pulls. AAC sublience deal from CBSSN
BOTH stations have more room

I expect that ESPN will probably move a few better games in the existing "non-Raycom" ACC ESPN inventory vault over to the ACCN just to make it more attractive to cable systems. Also, the MW filled 20 or so ESPN slots. It may be that the extra AAC content is expected to fill some of those former ACC/MW slots (assuming some of the current ESPN MW inventory is not renewed). Additionally, in one interview Aresco said something to the effect that he thought ESPN-News would be moving away from airing live games. That might be in part due to not needing those broadcast windows anymore.

Hmm. Idle speculation--how hard would it be for ESPN to get the MWC rights?

ESPN currently has the rights to 16 MWC games plus the 6 Boise STate games. That helps fill ESPN's need for 10pm and 10:30p.m. Eastern time kickoffs.

If the MWC is considering passing on the revenue from chasing national-cable and taking control of their kickoff times, maybe ESPN+ is the answer?

It could be very hard. 11 teams not named Boise have a strong financial incentive to not put the content on ESPN and put in on Stadium. Expect the AAC to have lots of late start times as ESPN looks to fill the 7:00 pst slots. ESPN made the offer to the PAC-12 for a reason.

lol...and given that we have basically told ESPN "we will kiss your butt any time" I suspect you are correct. That said, as a Houstn fan, I'd waaaaaay rather have an 8-to-9pm kickoff than an 11am kick off on any broiling hot Aug/Sept/Oct Saturday. I suspect Houston, SMU, and Tulane would all feel similarly about a late kickoff vs an 11am kick.

(03-31-2019 02:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 01:31 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 06:54 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  After looking at AAC contract,
It appears ESPN is moving quite a bit content to ACCN
ESPN pulls. AAC sublience deal from CBSSN
BOTH stations have more room

I expect that ESPN will probably move a few better games in the existing "non-Raycom" ACC ESPN inventory vault over to the ACCN just to make it more attractive to cable systems. Also, the MW filled 20 or so ESPN slots. It may be that the extra AAC content is expected to fill some of those former ACC/MW slots (assuming some of the current ESPN MW inventory is not renewed). Additionally, in one interview Aresco said something to the effect that he thought ESPN-News would be moving away from airing live games. That might be in part due to not needing those broadcast windows anymore.

Hmm. Idle speculation--how hard would it be for ESPN to get the MWC rights?

ESPN currently has the rights to 16 MWC games plus the 6 Boise STate games. That helps fill ESPN's need for 10pm and 10:30p.m. Eastern time kickoffs.

If the MWC is considering passing on the revenue from chasing national-cable and taking control of their kickoff times, maybe ESPN+ is the answer?

It could be very hard. 11 teams not named Boise have a strong financial incentive to not put the content on ESPN and put in on Stadium. Expect the AAC to have lots of late start times as ESPN looks to fill the 7:00 pst slots. ESPN made the offer to the PAC-12 for a reason.

lol...and given that we have basically told ESPN "we will kiss your butt any time" I suspect you are correct. That said, as a Houstn fan, I'd waaaaaay rather have an 8-to-9pm kickoff than an 11am kick off on any broiling hot Aug/Sept/Oct Saturday. I suspect Houston, SMU, and Tulane would all feel similarly about a late kickoff vs an 11am kick.

Wait till A 9:00 pm start in November when you will freeze your gonads off in a blizzard. Give me a Sept. 11 am start time any day over that.


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Forgot one other thing. Hawaii has its own TV deal. So if we’ll also see if any raise will then integrate Hawaii’s pay per view deal.

(03-31-2019 03:00 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

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(03-29-2019 07:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I expect that ESPN will probably move a few better games in the existing "non-Raycom" ACC ESPN inventory vault over to the ACCN just to make it more attractive to cable systems. Also, the MW filled 20 or so ESPN slots. It may be that the extra AAC content is expected to fill some of those former ACC/MW slots (assuming some of the current ESPN MW inventory is not renewed). Additionally, in one interview Aresco said something to the effect that he thought ESPN-News would be moving away from airing live games. That might be in part due to not needing those broadcast windows anymore.

Hmm. Idle speculation--how hard would it be for ESPN to get the MWC rights?

ESPN currently has the rights to 16 MWC games plus the 6 Boise STate games. That helps fill ESPN's need for 10pm and 10:30p.m. Eastern time kickoffs.

If the MWC is considering passing on the revenue from chasing national-cable and taking control of their kickoff times, maybe ESPN+ is the answer?

It could be very hard. 11 teams not named Boise have a strong financial incentive to not put the content on ESPN and put in on Stadium. Expect the AAC to have lots of late start times as ESPN looks to fill the 7:00 pst slots. ESPN made the offer to the PAC-12 for a reason.

lol...and given that we have basically told ESPN "we will kiss your butt any time" I suspect you are correct. That said, as a Houstn fan, I'd waaaaaay rather have an 8-to-9pm kickoff than an 11am kick off on any broiling hot Aug/Sept/Oct Saturday. I suspect Houston, SMU, and Tulane would all feel similarly about a late kickoff vs an 11am kick.

Wait till A 9:00 pm start in November when you will freeze your gonads off in a blizzard. Give me a Sept. 11 am start time any day over that.


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Oh--I understand how it affects the MW or other more northern areas--but we dont get a lot of blizzards here---and certainly not in November. Hell---we still have have a lot of 80+ degree days in November. Im just making the point that for the southern AAC teams a late start does not pose much of a hardship and may actually be of benefit.

(03-30-2019 07:53 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  A nice deal for the MWC would be one that gives them a 10:30 eastern GOTW, a handful of 8:00 eastern Thursday/Friday games, a timeslot on Saturdays on a network like CBS Sports at either 3:30 or 7:30 eastern and the rest of their games in Saturday timeslots of their choosing on a streaming service.

As far as membership changes to improve the league BYU and NMSU as full members and Gonzaga for Olympic sports would be awesome but highly unlikely.

If you are going to do a foray into Texas UTEP and Rice aren't the schools to pursue--UNT and UTSA are.

Chances are that no changes occur. If Boise doesn't like the numbers maybe they declare football independence, move to the WAC, and sell their football rights on their own. The MWC discontinues Hawaii's fb affiliate relationship in favor of a scheduling alliance, allowing the 10 full members to go to two 5 team divisions.

Hawaii, BYU, Boise, and NMSU help ease eachother's scheduling difficulties in November.

I don't know that the MWC could lure a C-USA Texas program or two into their conference. The Pacific/Mountain timezone heavy schedule, combined with the unequal media distribution setup in the MWC would probably be a problem. Plus no C-USA Texas program wants to be on a island in the MWC. Of course C-USA's media deal is crap, so anything is possible. I do think the 4 C-USA Texas programs would prefer going as a group, but that would require the MWC to drop some other programs, which is unlikely.

(03-31-2019 04:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 03:00 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 02:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-31-2019 01:31 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 07:40 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Hmm. Idle speculation--how hard would it be for ESPN to get the MWC rights?

ESPN currently has the rights to 16 MWC games plus the 6 Boise STate games. That helps fill ESPN's need for 10pm and 10:30p.m. Eastern time kickoffs.

If the MWC is considering passing on the revenue from chasing national-cable and taking control of their kickoff times, maybe ESPN+ is the answer?

It could be very hard. 11 teams not named Boise have a strong financial incentive to not put the content on ESPN and put in on Stadium. Expect the AAC to have lots of late start times as ESPN looks to fill the 7:00 pst slots. ESPN made the offer to the PAC-12 for a reason.

lol...and given that we have basically told ESPN "we will kiss your butt any time" I suspect you are correct. That said, as a Houstn fan, I'd waaaaaay rather have an 8-to-9pm kickoff than an 11am kick off on any broiling hot Aug/Sept/Oct Saturday. I suspect Houston, SMU, and Tulane would all feel similarly about a late kickoff vs an 11am kick.

Wait till A 9:00 pm start in November when you will freeze your gonads off in a blizzard. Give me a Sept. 11 am start time any day over that.


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Oh--I understand how it affects the MW or other more northern areas--but we dont get a lot of blizzards here---and certainly not in November. Hell---we still have have a lot of 80+ degree days in November. Im just making the point that for the southern AAC teams a late start does not pose much of a hardship and may actually be of benefit.

Sad thing is it doesn’t have to be that way. They could use SDSU, UNLV and Hawaii for the late starts in November but always want the Mtn division to do it.


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There were only 6 late starts from schools in Mountain time zone
Boise had 4 of them
AF had 5 games start at 1:30 MT, 5:00 for Boise in late Oct

(03-30-2019 03:41 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

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(03-30-2019 02:59 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 02:43 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is the MWC going to end up at 3 or 4 million per school when CUSA is sitting at 200,000?

Anymore they are the CUSA of the west.

How? They’re the only G5 with multiple flagship and land grant institutions. They’re mostly the only game in town in their region. Boise State is the top G5 football program and media darling. Basketball is below average but they still have UNLV and New Mexico plus Nevada and Utah State. The MWC is way above C-USA.

C-USA has an incompetent commissioner who used to be the AD at Tulsa. Ever since Banowsky left, she has done a good job screwing the conference.

Yeah, no one outside of message boards cares about that.

School presidents do, the ones who decide who gets in their conference.

But to stay on topic, Kit-Cat said the MWC is a C-USA level conference which is not and I stated the reasons why it’s not the case above.

Aren't we talking about a TV deal? School presidents don't decide the value media companies think the MWC is. Being the flagship institution is insignificant for various reasons.

For example, look at the flagship Nevada.

The entire state population of Nevada is 3 million.
The Houston Metro area alone is nearly 3 million.

Nevada enrollment is about 21k including grad students.
Houston enrollment is about 42k.

Houston is in the central timezone.
Nevada is in the mountain timezone.

I'm not picking at the MWC but I will be shocked if it gets 3-4 a year. I expect that everyone is going to offer around 1-2 mil and the conference will just decide to go another route to save face. The sissy little conference we are in would be in the same position if teams like Oregon State did not have us to leech off.

Ok. Sounds like we won’t know till summer. Here is a recent interview with the Wyoming AD.

https://www.kfbcradio.com/wyoming-ad-tom...one-audio/
Start at 5:05 minutes left.

Things of note from interview.
1. CBS exclusive negotiators last 6 weeks.
2. ESPN has an exclusive period after CBS.

Thing will be how much is enough to give up control of games. WYO seems to think 2 or 3 times the current amount. 3x would be roughly 4 million.

mwc will likely get around $30 million per year.
Currently, $6M per year from CBSSN and $7M per year from ESPN, so more is likely to come but there are going to be some disappointed/surprised people.
A while ago, mwc Commissioner Thompson let it out that the mwc was offered an extension at current rates...do you know why? Because that is what they are worth.

Conveniently, we now have a very current measure of what non-contract-bowl conferences are worth to media partners.
The AAC deal tells us dollars per viewer. By the AAC dollars per viewer, with the factual data of what the mwc window 4 games have delivered, mwc window 4 should be worth about $13.7M per year. You want to bump that up for MORE of those windows (and there aren't that many, so half again) or you want to give that some premium for demand when there is no other supply? OK, we are up to $20M per year. Add back in the few non-late-night slots and the million viewer conference championship game...we're up to $25M.
So now the trade-off between CBSSN late nights or ESPN+ filler (which could allow better kickoff times for attendance / ticket sales)...let's say that's even money whether CBSSN late or ESPN+, I'm up to $31M per year for the whole conference. That's with a couple generous assumptions. A nice bump for the mwc.
But I don't see any numbers that get the mwc up to half the value of the AAC.

(03-31-2019 10:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  mwc will likely get around $30 million per year.
Currently, $6M per year from CBSSN and $7M per year from ESPN, so more is likely to come but there are going to be some disappointed/surprised people.
A while ago, mwc Commissioner Thompson let it out that the mwc was offered an extension at current rates...do you know why? Because that is what they are worth.

Conveniently, we now have a very current measure of what non-contract-bowl conferences are worth to media partners.
The AAC deal tells us dollars per viewer. By the AAC dollars per viewer, with the factual data of what the mwc window 4 games have delivered, mwc window 4 should be worth about $13.7M per year. You want to bump that up for MORE of those windows (and there aren't that many, so half again) or you want to give that some premium for demand when there is no other supply? OK, we are up to $20M per year. Add back in the few non-late-night slots and the million viewer conference championship game...we're up to $25M.
So now the trade-off between CBSSN late nights or ESPN+ filler (which could allow better kickoff times for attendance / ticket sales)...let's say that's even money whether CBSSN late or ESPN+, I'm up to $31M per year for the whole conference. That's with a couple generous assumptions. A nice bump for the mwc.
But I don't see any numbers that get the mwc up to half the value of the AAC.

I'm going 28 million, about 33% of the AAC. The geography/timezone/population factors create a ceiling for this conference.

Wym had 5 games start around 1:00
5:00 start in late sept vs Boise