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RE: UConn loses $40 million in 2018 trying to keep up
(03-06-2019 03:13 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 12:22 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 11:46 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 03:45 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Here's a link to a document from a UConn website (Office of Institutional Research and Effectiveness) that lists UConn's "peers and aspirants":

Peers:

Indiana
Michigan State
Purdue
Delaware
Georgia
Kansas
Kentucky
Utah

Aspirants:

Ohio State
Penn State
UC - Davis
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Texas
Wisconsin


What stands out to me is that (a) all the schools are public schools, (b) just about all are flagships, © a full 8 of the 16 schools on the combined lists are from the B1G. None are from the ACC or AAC/Big East. Three are from the SEC, two from the Big 12.

The rubber: Seems like UConn sees itself and wants to see itself as an elite public flagship, and that's who it wants to affiliate with. That says B1G more than anything else. Doesn't say AAC at all, or Big East.

https://oire.uconn.edu/wp-content/upload...irants.pdf

I couldn't tell from the link when these lists were compiled. In September 2012 results of a national survey was published in which UConn listed 20 peers (without distinguishing between those it considered actual peers and those it aspired to be considered peers with). All the schools you list as aspirants were included on that list of 20. Of peers, only Purdue and Georgia were on the 2012 list. Four ACC schools ( Georgia Tech, Maryland, UNC and Virginia) were on the list then, and only Maryland, which left the ACC for the B1G shortly afterwards, is on both lists.

Significantly, none of the 20 schools UConn listed as peers reported that they also considered UConn as one of their peers. These are the schools that listed UConn as peers:

Arizona State
Binghamton U.
Bowdoin
BYU
Florida State
George Mason
Iowa State
Miami (O)
North Dakota State
Ohio U.
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rutgers
SUNY Albany
Sacred Heart
St John's
Texas Tech
UMass
New Hampshire
University of Phoenix, Jersey City
Rhode island
UT-Dallas
Vermont
West Virginia

While one should always take lists like this with a grain of salt, these suggest a certain lack of self-awareness by UConn. It's one thing to aspire for self-improvement. But it's hard to avoid using the word "wannabe" when you see something like this.

UConn as an academic school is significantly higher ranked than the schools you listed (NC State as well) Other than RIT which is a very highly ranked engineering school

Academic rankings (like USNWR) may be one factor in identifying peers (either actual peers or aspirational peers). I don't know that it's the most important factor. Other things, like admissions philosophy, curriculum, institutional mission, and geographical considerations (urban vs rural, population, student body size, etc.) are probably more important. I'm not sure why you mentioned NC State, since they aren't on any peer lists involving UConn, other than both were started as primarily agricultural schools many years ago. Is that why you mentioned them?

Ehh I just know you're an NC State guy, so if you want to rip UConn I can rip NC Juco

I'm an NC State guy? Why didn't somebody tell me sooner? Or the State fans who are often on my case for being anti-Wolfpack?

Fact is, I'm not a fan of any single school. When I was growing up in and around New York City there weren't any schools in the area playing big time college football to root for. And when I moved to North Carolina, there were too many to pick one without offending somebody. So I root for interesting games instead.
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RE: UConn loses $40 million in 2018 trying to keep up
(03-06-2019 02:59 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 02:22 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 11:46 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 03:45 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Here's a link to a document from a UConn website (Office of Institutional Research and Effectiveness) that lists UConn's "peers and aspirants":

Peers:

Indiana
Michigan State
Purdue
Delaware
Georgia
Kansas
Kentucky
Utah

Aspirants:

Ohio State
Penn State
UC - Davis
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Texas
Wisconsin


What stands out to me is that (a) all the schools are public schools, (b) just about all are flagships, © a full 8 of the 16 schools on the combined lists are from the B1G. None are from the ACC or AAC/Big East. Three are from the SEC, two from the Big 12.

The rubber: Seems like UConn sees itself and wants to see itself as an elite public flagship, and that's who it wants to affiliate with. That says B1G more than anything else. Doesn't say AAC at all, or Big East.

https://oire.uconn.edu/wp-content/upload...irants.pdf

I couldn't tell from the link when these lists were compiled. In September 2012 results of a national survey was published in which UConn listed 20 peers (without distinguishing between those it considered actual peers and those it aspired to be considered peers with). All the schools you list as aspirants were included on that list of 20. Of peers, only Purdue and Georgia were on the 2012 list. Four ACC schools ( Georgia Tech, Maryland, UNC and Virginia) were on the list then, and only Maryland, which left the ACC for the B1G shortly afterwards, is on both lists.

Significantly, none of the 20 schools UConn listed as peers reported that they also considered UConn as one of their peers. These are the schools that listed UConn as peers:

Arizona State
Binghamton U.
Bowdoin
BYU
Florida State
George Mason
Iowa State
Miami (O)
North Dakota State
Ohio U.
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rutgers
SUNY Albany
Sacred Heart
St John's
Texas Tech
UMass
New Hampshire
University of Phoenix, Jersey City
Rhode island
UT-Dallas
Vermont
West Virginia

While one should always take lists like this with a grain of salt, these suggest a certain lack of self-awareness by UConn. It's one thing to aspire for self-improvement. But it's hard to avoid using the word "wannabe" when you see something like this.

UConn as an academic school is significantly higher ranked than the schools you listed (NC State as well) Other than RIT which is a very highly ranked engineering school

What's your definition of significant? UCONN is rated as the #63 national university (#22 Public) by US News and UMass is #70 (#26 Public).

I guess 7 then. Unless you enjoy UMass Amherst being recognized with the University of Phoenix Jersey City.

This is a ridiculously dumb reply.

I was pointing out that you left enother school off the list off the "Other than RIT" portion. I didn't bother looking at any of the others there (I already knew where UMass and UCONN were), I was merely letting you know that there definitely one clear as day academic peer among that group. If you don't see that as accurate, then you've got blinders on.
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(03-05-2019 11:46 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  Other than RIT which is a very highly ranked engineering school

UMass is tied with RIT in the engineering rankings from USNRW (#59). UConn is 8 tied slots behind them. That includes Auburn, Tufts, UNC Chapel Hill, UT Knoxville, Utah, and WPI.
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(03-06-2019 05:27 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 02:59 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 02:22 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 11:46 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 03:45 PM)ken d Wrote:  I couldn't tell from the link when these lists were compiled. In September 2012 results of a national survey was published in which UConn listed 20 peers (without distinguishing between those it considered actual peers and those it aspired to be considered peers with). All the schools you list as aspirants were included on that list of 20. Of peers, only Purdue and Georgia were on the 2012 list. Four ACC schools ( Georgia Tech, Maryland, UNC and Virginia) were on the list then, and only Maryland, which left the ACC for the B1G shortly afterwards, is on both lists.

Significantly, none of the 20 schools UConn listed as peers reported that they also considered UConn as one of their peers. These are the schools that listed UConn as peers:

Arizona State
Binghamton U.
Bowdoin
BYU
Florida State
George Mason
Iowa State
Miami (O)
North Dakota State
Ohio U.
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rutgers
SUNY Albany
Sacred Heart
St John's
Texas Tech
UMass
New Hampshire
University of Phoenix, Jersey City
Rhode island
UT-Dallas
Vermont
West Virginia

While one should always take lists like this with a grain of salt, these suggest a certain lack of self-awareness by UConn. It's one thing to aspire for self-improvement. But it's hard to avoid using the word "wannabe" when you see something like this.

UConn as an academic school is significantly higher ranked than the schools you listed (NC State as well) Other than RIT which is a very highly ranked engineering school

What's your definition of significant? UCONN is rated as the #63 national university (#22 Public) by US News and UMass is #70 (#26 Public).

I guess 7 then. Unless you enjoy UMass Amherst being recognized with the University of Phoenix Jersey City.

This is a ridiculously dumb reply.

I was pointing out that you left enother school off the list off the "Other than RIT" portion. I didn't bother looking at any of the others there (I already knew where UMass and UCONN were), I was merely letting you know that there definitely one clear as day academic peer among that group. If you don't see that as accurate, then you've got blinders on.

I know it was a dumb reply I guess I was trolling the school up in the school up in the pioneer valley04-cheers
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(02-26-2019 03:45 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  You have a point. That said---I actually think the AAC has some solid peer institutions for UConn. For instance---all are FBS. All but one are top 200 USNWR universities. Most are high research universities per Carnegie.


Here's a link to a document from a UConn website (Office of Institutional Research and Effectiveness) that lists UConn's "peers and aspirants":

Peers:

Indiana
Michigan State
Purdue
Delaware
Georgia
Kansas
Kentucky
Utah

Aspirants:

Ohio State
Penn State
UC - Davis
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Texas
Wisconsin


What stands out to me is that (a) all the schools are public schools, (b) just about all are flagships, © a full 8 of the 16 schools on the combined lists are from the B1G. None are from the ACC or AAC/Big East. Three are from the SEC, two from the Big 12.

The rubber: Seems like UConn sees itself and wants to see itself as an elite public flagship, and that's who it wants to affiliate with. That says B1G more than anything else. Doesn't say AAC at all, or Big East.

https://oire.uconn.edu/wp-content/upload...irants.pdf

I couldn't tell from the link when these lists were compiled.

The link is at a current UConn website, so regardless of when it was compiled, it presumably reflects the current UConn point of view.
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(03-07-2019 08:38 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 05:27 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 02:59 PM)Huskies12 Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 02:22 PM)e-parade Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 11:46 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  UConn as an academic school is significantly higher ranked than the schools you listed (NC State as well) Other than RIT which is a very highly ranked engineering school

What's your definition of significant? UCONN is rated as the #63 national university (#22 Public) by US News and UMass is #70 (#26 Public).

I guess 7 then. Unless you enjoy UMass Amherst being recognized with the University of Phoenix Jersey City.

This is a ridiculously dumb reply.

I was pointing out that you left enother school off the list off the "Other than RIT" portion. I didn't bother looking at any of the others there (I already knew where UMass and UCONN were), I was merely letting you know that there definitely one clear as day academic peer among that group. If you don't see that as accurate, then you've got blinders on.

I know it was a dumb reply I guess I was trolling the school up in the school up in the pioneer valley04-cheers

Ha. Well I guess I fell for it. I've run into too many people who think there's still a huge gap between the schools to be able to tell now.
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(03-07-2019 09:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-26-2019 03:45 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  You have a point. That said---I actually think the AAC has some solid peer institutions for UConn. For instance---all are FBS. All but one are top 200 USNWR universities. Most are high research universities per Carnegie.


Here's a link to a document from a UConn website (Office of Institutional Research and Effectiveness) that lists UConn's "peers and aspirants":

Peers:

Indiana
Michigan State
Purdue
Delaware
Georgia
Kansas
Kentucky
Utah

Aspirants:

Ohio State
Penn State
UC - Davis
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Texas
Wisconsin


What stands out to me is that (a) all the schools are public schools, (b) just about all are flagships, © a full 8 of the 16 schools on the combined lists are from the B1G. None are from the ACC or AAC/Big East. Three are from the SEC, two from the Big 12.

The rubber: Seems like UConn sees itself and wants to see itself as an elite public flagship, and that's who it wants to affiliate with. That says B1G more than anything else. Doesn't say AAC at all, or Big East.

https://oire.uconn.edu/wp-content/upload...irants.pdf

I couldn't tell from the link when these lists were compiled.

The link is at a current UConn website, so regardless of when it was compiled, it presumably reflects the current UConn point of view.

Can't argue with you, it's right off the school website. Some do seem weird to me as aspirants. Like UConn shouldn't aspire to be Ohio State or Penn State. We're already there.
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(03-07-2019 10:07 AM)Huskies12 Wrote:  Can't argue with you, it's right off the school website. Some do seem weird to me as aspirants. Like UConn shouldn't aspire to be Ohio State or Penn State. We're already there.

UConn's state-related, and, thus, semi-autonomous? UConn rakes in as much as PSU does in terms of research?

That's likely why they're aspirants rather than peers. Operationally, it could be more of a model to emulate, and, they want PSU (and OSU) research intake. Honestly, it's not a surprise putting those two with Illinois and Wisconsin. All four of those are models. And, yet, notice who isn't mentioned...Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA, Washington, and Virginia (or Colorado for that matter)...when you are truly peers with your aspirants, then you aspire to be like the heavyweight public schools.
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(03-06-2019 04:08 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Crazy how life works, one minute we are a top national basketball power and one of the fasted growing football programs in the country, a few years later we are 40 mil in debt and basically have been rejected by the p5...
Dont get me wrong...imma rep my huskies even if we are in the nec. regardless, it still hurts to see how far we have fallen, whether that be our national perception or actual performance levels.

UConn's big mistake was not moving football up in 1991 when they had the chance.

They were just too new when realignment happened.

IMHO, the lawsuit and Blumenthal hurt them even more.
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(03-07-2019 07:11 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 04:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 04:08 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Crazy how life works, one minute we are a top national basketball power and one of the fasted growing football programs in the country, a few years later we are 40 mil in debt and basically have been rejected by the p5...
Dont get me wrong...imma rep my huskies even if we are in the nec. regardless, it still hurts to see how far we have fallen, whether that be our national perception or actual performance levels.

UConn's big mistake was not moving football up in 1991 when they had the chance.

They were just too new when realignment happened.

IMHO, the lawsuit and Blumenthal hurt them even more.

Yes, UConn fans do not like to admit it, but there are likely still sore arses within the ACC that hold a grudge against UConn for spearheading the lawsuits 15 years ago.

Memories in academia are long, and that has IMO clearly hurt UConn's chances to join the ACC.

Irony is, being outspoken about that lawsuit didn't harm Blumenthal at all. His political star rose after that, and he's now a US Senator, while UConn is languishing in the AAC.
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(01-19-2019 10:48 AM)XLance Wrote:  UConn athletics lost over $40 million in 2018.

https://www.apnews.com/6d704448c5814814bb325338427ea71b

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-stat...1.26058529

HARTFORD, Conn. - (AP) -- Spending in the athletic division at the University of Connecticut outpaced revenue by more than $40 million in 2018, the school reported Thursday.

In an NCAA financial statement, UConn reported that total generated revenue from sports last year totaled $40.4 million, while expenses came in at $80.9 million.

UConn spokeswoman Stephanie Reitz said the gap is a result of declining conference and media licensing revenue and rising costs.

"It is not sustainable and the Division of Athletics is continually working to identify savings and drive up revenue in order to help close this gap," she said.


And now you know why UCONN is leaving the AAC for a conf that doesn't have I-A Football...

UCONN lost $8.7 Million on their football program in 2017-2018 and most likely even more in 2018-2019.

I think the days of I-A Football for UCONN will end after their lone 2020 Independent Season...as UCONN's BOT is tired of writing checks to Athletics.
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(01-19-2019 12:02 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes in a science fiction movie, a damaged space ship will be drifting towards outer space and the crew has one chance left or else be lost forever, and it usually involves blowing out all the remaining fuel in one last burst to try and get to the planet or space station or whatever.

UConn is seemingly doing the same thing, they've fired off all their NOS and whatnot in one last desperate blast to reach their haven, which is the P5.

But unlike in the sci-fi movies, there is no haven on the horizon to aim for. 07-coffee3

And not all of the havens are safe either. Hence the constant Eer angst over their new haven.
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(03-08-2019 09:37 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 07:11 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 04:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 04:08 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  Crazy how life works, one minute we are a top national basketball power and one of the fasted growing football programs in the country, a few years later we are 40 mil in debt and basically have been rejected by the p5...
Dont get me wrong...imma rep my huskies even if we are in the nec. regardless, it still hurts to see how far we have fallen, whether that be our national perception or actual performance levels.

UConn's big mistake was not moving football up in 1991 when they had the chance.

They were just too new when realignment happened.

IMHO, the lawsuit and Blumenthal hurt them even more.

Yes, UConn fans do not like to admit it, but there are likely still sore arses within the ACC that hold a grudge against UConn for spearheading the lawsuits 15 years ago.

Memories in academia are long, and that has IMO clearly hurt UConn's chances to join the ACC.

Irony is, being outspoken about that lawsuit didn't harm Blumenthal at all. His political star rose after that, and he's now a US Senator, while UConn is languishing in the AAC.

Quo, I don't discount hard feelings but let's get real here. In every flirtation with another conference there is an exchange of financial information with a non disclosure agreement. If the Big 10 was ever interested they took one peek at the ledger sheet, shuddered, and sweetly backed away. That's true too of the ACC, and the Big 12. When conference officials look at that much red ink, with a non viable football program, in a market that is partially covered by New York and Boston, that ledger sheet screams LEACH! And that's why nobody bit on UConn.

And by the way, the women's basketball program is in the red too, just nowhere nearly as much as football. But, so too is the program at Tennessee and everywhere else.
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(06-25-2019 01:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-19-2019 12:02 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes in a science fiction movie, a damaged space ship will be drifting towards outer space and the crew has one chance left or else be lost forever, and it usually involves blowing out all the remaining fuel in one last burst to try and get to the planet or space station or whatever.

UConn is seemingly doing the same thing, they've fired off all their NOS and whatnot in one last desperate blast to reach their haven, which is the P5.

But unlike in the sci-fi movies, there is no haven on the horizon to aim for. 07-coffee3

And not all of the havens are safe either. Hence the constant Eer angst over their new haven.

They may be destined to take UConn's place in the AAC.
There are too many teams in the east and not enough in the west to attain any sense of balance. Location may work against the eer's if they need to find a new home.
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(06-25-2019 03:43 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-25-2019 01:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-19-2019 12:02 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes in a science fiction movie, a damaged space ship will be drifting towards outer space and the crew has one chance left or else be lost forever, and it usually involves blowing out all the remaining fuel in one last burst to try and get to the planet or space station or whatever.

UConn is seemingly doing the same thing, they've fired off all their NOS and whatnot in one last desperate blast to reach their haven, which is the P5.

But unlike in the sci-fi movies, there is no haven on the horizon to aim for. 07-coffee3

And not all of the havens are safe either. Hence the constant Eer angst over their new haven.

They may be destined to take UConn's place in the AAC.
There are too many teams in the east and not enough in the west to attain any sense of balance. Location may work against the eer's if they need to find a new home.

Ha! I thought about that earlier today. COGS
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(06-25-2019 03:51 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(06-25-2019 03:43 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(06-25-2019 01:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-19-2019 12:02 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes in a science fiction movie, a damaged space ship will be drifting towards outer space and the crew has one chance left or else be lost forever, and it usually involves blowing out all the remaining fuel in one last burst to try and get to the planet or space station or whatever.

UConn is seemingly doing the same thing, they've fired off all their NOS and whatnot in one last desperate blast to reach their haven, which is the P5.

But unlike in the sci-fi movies, there is no haven on the horizon to aim for. 07-coffee3

And not all of the havens are safe either. Hence the constant Eer angst over their new haven.

They may be destined to take UConn's place in the AAC.
There are too many teams in the east and not enough in the west to attain any sense of balance. Location may work against the eer's if they need to find a new home.

Ha! I thought about that earlier today. COGS

Some school has to take UConn's place. The AAC may choose to wait until 2025 to pick up that replacement.
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(06-25-2019 01:00 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-19-2019 10:48 AM)XLance Wrote:  UConn athletics lost over $40 million in 2018.

https://www.apnews.com/6d704448c5814814bb325338427ea71b

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-stat...1.26058529

HARTFORD, Conn. - (AP) -- Spending in the athletic division at the University of Connecticut outpaced revenue by more than $40 million in 2018, the school reported Thursday.

In an NCAA financial statement, UConn reported that total generated revenue from sports last year totaled $40.4 million, while expenses came in at $80.9 million.

UConn spokeswoman Stephanie Reitz said the gap is a result of declining conference and media licensing revenue and rising costs.

"It is not sustainable and the Division of Athletics is continually working to identify savings and drive up revenue in order to help close this gap," she said.


And now you know why UCONN is leaving the AAC for a conf that doesn't have I-A Football...

UCONN lost $8.7 Million on their football program in 2017-2018 and most likely even more in 2018-2019.

I think the days of I-A Football for UCONN will end after their lone 2020 Independent Season...as UCONN's BOT is tired of writing checks to Athletics.

Might be why they haven't scheduled anything out beyond 2020. I think RE was their first and will be their last FBS coach.
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RE: UConn loses $40 million in 2018 trying to keep up
(07-07-2019 05:13 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(06-25-2019 01:00 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-19-2019 10:48 AM)XLance Wrote:  UConn athletics lost over $40 million in 2018.

https://www.apnews.com/6d704448c5814814bb325338427ea71b

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-stat...1.26058529

HARTFORD, Conn. - (AP) -- Spending in the athletic division at the University of Connecticut outpaced revenue by more than $40 million in 2018, the school reported Thursday.

In an NCAA financial statement, UConn reported that total generated revenue from sports last year totaled $40.4 million, while expenses came in at $80.9 million.

UConn spokeswoman Stephanie Reitz said the gap is a result of declining conference and media licensing revenue and rising costs.

"It is not sustainable and the Division of Athletics is continually working to identify savings and drive up revenue in order to help close this gap," she said.


And now you know why UCONN is leaving the AAC for a conf that doesn't have I-A Football...

UCONN lost $8.7 Million on their football program in 2017-2018 and most likely even more in 2018-2019.

I think the days of I-A Football for UCONN will end after their lone 2020 Independent Season...as UCONN's BOT is tired of writing checks to Athletics.

Might be why they haven't scheduled anything out beyond 2020
. I think RE was their first and will be their last FBS coach.

01-wingedeagle

They have games scheduled through 2026

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/uconn/
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RE: UConn loses $40 million in 2018 trying to keep up
(02-14-2019 02:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 02:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  You have a point. That said---I actually think the AAC has some solid peer institutions for UConn. For instance---all are FBS. All but one are top 200 USNWR universities. Most are high research universities per Carnegie.


Here's a link to a document from a UConn website (Office of Institutional Research and Effectiveness) that lists UConn's "peers and aspirants":

Peers:

Indiana
Michigan State
Purdue
Delaware
Georgia
Kansas
Kentucky
Utah

Aspirants:

Ohio State
Penn State
UC - Davis
Florida
Illinois
Maryland
Texas
Wisconsin


What stands out to me is that (a) all the schools are public schools, (b) just about all are flagships, © a full 8 of the 16 schools on the combined lists are from the B1G. None are from the ACC or AAC/Big East. Three are from the SEC, two from the Big 12.

The rubber: Seems like UConn sees itself and wants to see itself as an elite public flagship, and that's who it wants to affiliate with. That says B1G more than anything else. Doesn't say AAC at all, or Big East.

Lessee, UConn is in the US 96-117 tier in the AWRU rankings (World 301-400 tier).

"Peers:"

34 Purdue
47-58 Utah
47-58 Indiana
47-58 Michigan State
70-95 Delaware
70-95 Georgia
70-95 Kansas
96-117 Connecticut
96-117 Kentucky

"Aspirants:"

21 Wisconsin
27 Texas
28 Illinois
32 Maryland
37 Penn State
41 Florida
44 Ohio State
45 UC - Davis

On the AWRU rankings, first UConn should first aspire to build itself into the middle of its peers before it can start to tackle its aspirational list.

The AWRU rankings back up the idea that UConn has a number of academic peers in the AAC. Indeed, swap ECU with Houston and UConn would be in the "AWRU top 500 World Universities" Division:

70-95 Houston
70-95 USF
96-117 Temple
96-117 UCF
96-117 UC
96-117 UConn
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