I would actually agree with most of this except for fau and Charlotte being too high.

(02-28-2019 11:23 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  I would actually agree with most of this except for fau and Charlotte being too high.

- Everything is still shiny, top quality, and new in the Rose Center.
- Now have an AD with solid SEC credentials who is clearly dedicated to winning.
- A fairly fertile recruiting area in the metro-Charlotte region.
- Most likely getting a stadium expansion in the next five years.
- 2nd largest and fastest growing university in the soon to be 8th most populous state.
- Lots of potential corporate partners within a 20-minute drive from campus.
- A relatively easy conference to win football games in.

Seems like there's a lot of reasons to like the Charlotte HC job. Lambert just wasn't the guy to tap those resources to their maximum potential. We'll see what Healy and Hill can do.

How difficult is it to win, recruit, build, etc?
14. Rice - too low. They've won before. Better than Tulane.
13. UTEP - only lately has it gotten bad. Good support potential and stadium. Just need some positive momentum.
12. WKU - little stadium. "Kentucky is a basketball state." newbie.
11. ODU - little stadium. good support potential. good recruiting area. FBS newbie.
10. UTSA - good recruiting area. good stadium. newbie.
9. Charlotte - basketball state. little stadium. newbie.
8. FIU - good recruiting area. little stadium. newbie. too low. have shown commitment with Davis hire.
7. UAB - good recruiting area. new stadium coming. newbie still. Better potential now free of Legion field.
6. MT - good recruiting area. newbie.
5. North Texas - good recruiting area. small, but good stadium. Mean Joe Greene.
4. Southern Miss - good recruiting area. small, but good stadium. Brett Favre.
3. FAU - small, but good stadium. good recruiting area. newbie. have shown commitment with Kiffen hire.
2. LA Tech - too high. small, but old stadium. good recruiting area. Terry Bradshaw.
1. Marshall - small, but good stadium. solid, but small support. Best brand name in C-USA. Randy Moss.

(02-28-2019 11:59 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 11:23 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  I would actually agree with most of this except for fau and Charlotte being too high.

- Everything is still shiny, top quality, and new in the Rose Center.
- Now have an AD with solid SEC credentials who is clearly dedicated to winning.
- A fairly fertile recruiting area in the metro-Charlotte region.
- Most likely getting a stadium expansion in the next five years.
- 2nd largest and fastest growing university in the soon to be 8th most populous state.
- Lots of potential corporate partners within a 20-minute drive from campus.
- A relatively easy conference to win football games in.

Seems like there's a lot of reasons to like the Charlotte HC job. Lambert just wasn't the guy to tap those resources to their maximum potential. We'll see what Healy and Hill can do.

clt says don't forget lack of quality fbs teams in NC

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 08:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I think Western's rank on this list is the most egregious.

Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

I have no comment on the article or the ranking...I did not click on the link. The Marshall fan acted like Western was chump change other than a short few years...

Quote:4-6 win team over their life.

Well if that's the case and Western has the best winning % over teams in CUSA with 500+ games played...

wouldn't Marshall, S.Miss, Tech, UNT and the rest be worse than "4-6 win team over their life" ?

(02-28-2019 07:35 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says media markets, hub airport, and light rail connectivity to campus should be factored in.

thus making Rice #1?

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 07:35 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says media markets, hub airport, and light rail connectivity to campus should be factored in.

thus making Rice #1?

You guys have light rial?

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 08:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I think Western's rank on this list is the most egregious.

Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 07:35 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says media markets, hub airport, and light rail connectivity to campus should be factored in.

thus making Rice #1?

You guys have light rial?

Jeff Foxworthy much?
Just kiddin'.
yeah Houston put some in years ago. Not sure how much it helps, but it's there:

linky: http://www.houstontx.gov/abouthouston/lightrail.html

Quote:METRORail consists of three light-rail lines: The Red Line (North), Green Line (East End) and the Purple Line (Southeast). Our fleet consists of 66 rail cars in operation, four in testing and six pending delivery.

The Red Line is a 13-mile line that originally opened in 2004 as the Main Street Line and today carries 40,000 passengers daily, making it one of the nation’s most traveled lines, based on boardings per track mile.

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 08:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I think Western's rank on this list is the most egregious.

Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

UAB at #7 seems too low. I know we don't have a strong history, but post-shutdown it's a different program. New practice facility as good as any in G5, new stadium on the way, top paid coach, defending conference champs, located in a great recruiting area, and located in the #1 football watching city in America.

(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

Firing a coach after just 2 years can make a program look more attractive in some instances, and less attractive in others. I think in WKU's case, it makes it more attractive because we're talking about a team that went 30-10 in the 3 years prior, so an incoming coach theoretically should've had a pretty solid foundation to build on for his first year. That incoming coach went 9-16 in the next 2 years though. That's not acceptable. I wouldn't wanna keep someone like that around for a 3rd year either.

An example where firing someone after just 2 years would make a job less attractive would be if a team has been struggling to begin with, and you hire a new coach to turn things around. You can't expect them to do it overnight. What Seth Littrell did at UNT in taking the Mean Green from 1-11 to 9-5 in only 2 years is an aberration. You can't expect every new hire to pull something like that off, so 3 years (maybe 4 in some cases) would be a more reasonable time frame there. Now, if a guy takes over a 1-11 team, and they go 1-11 and 2-10 in his first 2 years, that's different; he needs to go.

(02-28-2019 02:46 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 07:35 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says media markets, hub airport, and light rail connectivity to campus should be factored in.

thus making Rice #1?

You guys have light rial?

Jeff Foxworthy much?
Just kiddin'.
yeah Houston put some in years ago. Not sure how much it helps, but it's there:

linky: http://www.houstontx.gov/abouthouston/lightrail.html

Quote:METRORail consists of three light-rail lines: The Red Line (North), Green Line (East End) and the Purple Line (Southeast). Our fleet consists of 66 rail cars in operation, four in testing and six pending delivery.

The Red Line is a 13-mile line that originally opened in 2004 as the Main Street Line and today carries 40,000 passengers daily, making it one of the nation’s most traveled lines, based on boardings per track mile.

clt asks if it goes to rice campus.

Also CLT>IAH

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 08:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I think Western's rank on this list is the most egregious.

Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

Fine, now explain to me how historical winning percentage is a significant factor in job selection. First, the record older than a few seasons makes little difference; second, would a coach rather replace a losing or a winning coach?

(02-28-2019 08:04 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 08:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  I think Western's rank on this list is the most egregious.

Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

Fine, now explain to me how historical winning percentage is a significant factor in job selection. First, the record older than a few seasons makes little difference; second, would a coach rather replace a losing or a winning coach?

Fine, now show me where I said anything about coaching? My God, learn to read, or ask someone to explain it to you before commenting

(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 10:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Besides WKUs last 5-6 years before last year and their 2002 National Title over McNeese State, WKU for the most part has been a 4-6 win team over their life. Sure they had moderate success when they were senior heavy sometimes but overall its been tough sledding in Bowling Green KY. Also they have always put basketball 1st.

Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

No. The attendance problem is more prevalent in the eastern division. Aside from Marshall, teams in the eastern division are sub 20K. You can assign this to the manner in which attendance is calculated at the various universities, but that isn't an accurate assessment of the problem. At North Texas, we are usually pulling in the numbers we are posting. Maybe once or twice a season, weather will dramatically effect the number of fans that show up for a game, and we will post total number of tickets sold. But, most of the time, we are actually seeing the between 23,000-30,000 fans in our stands. Here are the numbers that were posted after week 12 of this past season.

UTSA- 25,676 (5)
UAB- 24,291 (6)
Marshall- 24,063 (6)
North Texas- 23,356 (6)
So Miss- 21,615 (6)
Rice- 20,590(5)

ODU- 19,633 (6)
La Tech- 19,041 (4)
FAU- 18,134 (5)
FIU- 15,929 (5)
MTSU- 15,812 (4)
WKU- 14,232 (5)
UTEP- 13,994 (5)
Charlotte- 12,670 (6)

(02-28-2019 08:41 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-27-2019 11:30 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Western has the 1st or 2nd highest winning % in CUSA...dont have the time to look it but I believe its 1st

So what are the rest of you?

EDIT:
Did not have to look it up...had it in a file
Winning % and total games played

Old Dominion 0.628...121

Western Kentucky 0.587...1005

Southern Miss 0.58...1039

Middle Tennessee 0.573...1039

Louisiana Tech 0.57...1114

Marshall 0.517...1171

North Texas 0.502...1041

UTSA 0.463...82

UAB 0.444...284

Rice 0.439...1108

Florida Atlantic 0.422...205

UTEP 0.403...1005

That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

No. The attendance problem is more prevalent in the eastern division. Aside from Marshall, teams in the eastern division are sub 20K. You can assign this to the manner in which attendance is calculated at the various universities, but that isn't an accurate assessment of the problem. At North Texas, we are usually pulling in the numbers we are posting. maybe once or twice a season, weather will dramatically effect the number of fans that show up for a game, and we will post total number of tickets sold. But, most of the time, we are actually seeing the between 23,000-30,000 fans in our stands. Here are the numbers that were posted after week 12 of this past season.

UTSA- 25,676 (5)
UAB- 24,291 (6)
Marshall- 24,063 (6)
North Texas- 23,356 (6)
So Miss- 21,615 (6)
Rice- 20,590(5)

ODU- 19,633 (6)
La Tech- 19,041 (4)
FAU- 18,134 (5)
FIU- 15,929 (5)
MTSU- 15,812 (4)
WKU- 14,232 (5)
UTEP- 13,994 (5)
Charlotte- 12,670 (6)

Are you talking make believe numbers or butts? You and I both know the announced attendance is made up.

(02-28-2019 06:56 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:46 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 07:35 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says media markets, hub airport, and light rail connectivity to campus should be factored in.

thus making Rice #1?

You guys have light rial?

Jeff Foxworthy much?
Just kiddin'.
yeah Houston put some in years ago. Not sure how much it helps, but it's there:

linky: http://www.houstontx.gov/abouthouston/lightrail.html

Quote:METRORail consists of three light-rail lines: The Red Line (North), Green Line (East End) and the Purple Line (Southeast). Our fleet consists of 66 rail cars in operation, four in testing and six pending delivery.

The Red Line is a 13-mile line that originally opened in 2004 as the Main Street Line and today carries 40,000 passengers daily, making it one of the nation’s most traveled lines, based on boardings per track mile.

clt asks if it goes to rice campus.

Also CLT>IAH

Sure does, train on over sometime for a game or a tour!

How ever it does not go to IAH. Agree with you and it. Who’d wanna go there?!

(02-28-2019 08:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:41 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:30 AM)MUther Wrote:  That's one of many criteria. You also just fired a coach after two years. Makes the job less attractive. You have typically smaller fan bases in ratio to team performance. The fan base is basketball centric. Not much wrong with his take on WKU, but I agree it's a bit low. The right guy lives like a king in BG. Brohm had anything he wanted except a P5 patch.

Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

No. The attendance problem is more prevalent in the eastern division. Aside from Marshall, teams in the eastern division are sub 20K. You can assign this to the manner in which attendance is calculated at the various universities, but that isn't an accurate assessment of the problem. At North Texas, we are usually pulling in the numbers we are posting. maybe once or twice a season, weather will dramatically effect the number of fans that show up for a game, and we will post total number of tickets sold. But, most of the time, we are actually seeing the between 23,000-30,000 fans in our stands. Here are the numbers that were posted after week 12 of this past season.

UTSA- 25,676 (5)
UAB- 24,291 (6)
Marshall- 24,063 (6)
North Texas- 23,356 (6)
So Miss- 21,615 (6)
Rice- 20,590(5)

ODU- 19,633 (6)
La Tech- 19,041 (4)
FAU- 18,134 (5)
FIU- 15,929 (5)
MTSU- 15,812 (4)
WKU- 14,232 (5)
UTEP- 13,994 (5)
Charlotte- 12,670 (6)

Are you talking make believe numbers or butts? You and I both know the announced attendance is made up.

Asks some LA Tech fans if we had 30,000 in the stand when they came to town? I'm a season ticket holder. On most nights, we actually get butts in seats. I expect us to reach 24,000 or 25,000 attendance average next season.

(02-28-2019 09:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:46 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 08:41 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 02:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Firing a coach after two years shows opposite imo, we know when to cut our losses and realize we made a mistake. Will get back to winning in which we are good at...

I do agree our fan base sucks for football but what is crazy is we will have I am sure 20k in Nashville for UofL game at least.....WKU fans love being in Nashville vs. traveling the few miles to our home stadium.....

No more than any other fan base in CUSA....

so maybe you should say, the way Western counts attendance, sucks. Do it like the rest of CUSA and most Western games are SRO.

I also view firing a coach after 2 seasons shows...Western expects more and will not accept, less. If you do your job, do it well, stay as long as you want. But winning is expected.

No. The attendance problem is more prevalent in the eastern division. Aside from Marshall, teams in the eastern division are sub 20K. You can assign this to the manner in which attendance is calculated at the various universities, but that isn't an accurate assessment of the problem. At North Texas, we are usually pulling in the numbers we are posting. maybe once or twice a season, weather will dramatically effect the number of fans that show up for a game, and we will post total number of tickets sold. But, most of the time, we are actually seeing the between 23,000-30,000 fans in our stands. Here are the numbers that were posted after week 12 of this past season.

UTSA- 25,676 (5)
UAB- 24,291 (6)
Marshall- 24,063 (6)
North Texas- 23,356 (6)
So Miss- 21,615 (6)
Rice- 20,590(5)

ODU- 19,633 (6)
La Tech- 19,041 (4)
FAU- 18,134 (5)
FIU- 15,929 (5)
MTSU- 15,812 (4)
WKU- 14,232 (5)
UTEP- 13,994 (5)
Charlotte- 12,670 (6)

Are you talking make believe numbers or butts? You and I both know the announced attendance is made up.

Asks some LA Tech fans if we had 30,000 in the stand when they came to town? I'm a season ticket holder. On most nights, we actually get butts in seats. I expect us to reach 24,000 or 25,000 attendance average next season.

Ask anyone with a set of eyes what UNT had vs I believe FAU.....1800, maybe 2500, listed as 20+k